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Callan57 · 17-11-2014 10:14AM

Paul Murphy doing his Pontius Pilate act this morning ... cowardly!
He brought a mob on to the street the very least he should do is be a man and take responsibility. :mad:

touts · 17-11-2014 10:18AM

Listening to Paul Murphy TD claiming his mini-riot on Saturday was a "peaceful protest" against the actions of an "undemocratic" state and an elite minister I can't help thinking if he lived in a fully fledged Socialist "Democracy" and organised a "peaceful protest" against one of the elite he would be sitting in a dark damp basement this morning having his figure nails ripped out. He is a boy playing with political forces he can't control.

fryup · 17-11-2014 10:25AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Paul Murphy doing his Pontius Pilate act this morning ... cowardly!
He brought a mob on to the street the very least he should do is be a man and take responsibility. :mad:

he looks and acts like he just came out of primary school

CountyHurler · 17-11-2014 10:37AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Paul Murphy doing his Pontius Pilate act this morning ... cowardly!

I was shocked to hear Ruth Coppinger coming out in support of Paul Murphy this morning.. Apparently with the blessing of her idol Joe Higgins..

P. Breathnach · 17-11-2014 10:43AM

Both on this programme and on the 1 o'clock programme yesterday he complained vociferously that he wasn't invited on to Marain Fincuane's show. Yet he has just got two prime opportunities to make his case - even though he claims that he was not a leader of the demonstration.

I wasn't a leader of the demonstration either. Let's ignore the facts that I wasn't there and that I don't approve of the demonstrators' actions. Should I have a right to be invited on to radio to air my views?

CountyHurler · 17-11-2014 11:13AM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

Both on this programme and on the 1 o'clock programme yesterday he complained vociferously that he wasn't invited on to Marain Fincuane's show.

He also forgets to mention that at the same time Joan Burton was on with Finucane, he was getting a "free run" on Newstalk !!! And he starts giving out about Denis O'Brien controlling the media...

Callan57 · 17-11-2014 11:38AM

Burning out vans because they might be Irish Water ... oh very clever
Who do these yobbos think will pay for the replacement vans????
Ah sure we can't expect them to "do the math". :mad:

touts · 17-11-2014 11:41AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Burning out vans because they might be Irish Water ... oh very clever
Who do these yobbos think will pay for the replacement vans????
Ah sure we can't expect them to "do the math". :mad:

Someone else will pay. At least that's the standard Socialist answer.

Oops69 · 17-11-2014 12:10PM

With regard to the Tanaiste being trapped in her car for 2 hours,in any other normal country she would have been extricated immediately if she was in danger and the police force wouldn't have spared the use of force.... Leads to all kinds of questions and conspiracy theories, and if any of them were proven true , I wouldn't be surprised , I have lost total confidence In the integrity of this government and in the Tanaiste in particular.

Callan57 · 17-11-2014 12:23PM

Oops69 wrote: »

With regard to the Tanaiste being trapped in her car for 2 hours,in any other normal country she would have been extricated immediately if she was in danger and the police force wouldn't have spared the use of force.... Leads to all kinds of questions and conspiracy theories, and if any of them were proven true , I wouldn't be surprised , I have lost total confidence In the integrity of this government and in the Tanaiste in particular.

Are you suggesting the Gardai should have baton charged?
IMO the Gardai are to be commended for their restraint in the face of verbal & physical abuse from a bunch of yobbos.
I presume it was a judgement call made by the officer in charge that she was safer remaining in the car.

Oops69 · 17-11-2014 01:18PM

I'm suggesting it's surprising they didn't intervene more forcefully in the circumstances and if you believe the Gardai were not being directly influenced politically for those two hours , I would suggest that may be a naive opinion.

michael999999 · 17-11-2014 01:23PM

touts wrote: »

Someone else will pay. At least that's the standard Socialist answer.

Were still paying for the fraudsters Fianna fail. And so will my Great Grandkids!

touts · 17-11-2014 01:24PM

Oops69 wrote: »

I'm suggesting it's surprising they didn't intervene more forcefully in the circumstances and if you believe the Gardai were not being directly influenced politically for those two hours , I would suggest that may be a naive opinion.

You are right. They were being influenced politically. A TD has admitted that he asked them not to deploy in riot gear and they agreed to that. The same TD said he asked them not to intervene as the protest "slow walked" the car out of the area. Again they agreed. So yes there would appear to have been significant political influence on the decision making of the Gardaí.

That TD was Paul Murphy. Ringleader of the protesters.

Bits_n_Bobs · 17-11-2014 01:25PM

Oops69 wrote: »

I'm suggesting it's surprising they didn't intervene more forcefully in the circumstances and if you believe the Gardai were not being directly influenced politically for those two hours , I would suggest that may be a naive opinion.

You're right of course. What the country needs is for the Gardai to go wading in swinging truncheons and cracking heads like all those other solid totalitarian states...

touts · 17-11-2014 01:30PM

michael999999 wrote: »

Were still paying for the fraudsters Fianna fail. And so will my Great Grandkids!

Indeed. What Fianna Fail did was a disgrace for which they should never be forgiven. But remember had we followed a capitalist approach the banks would have been left fail and we would be well on the road to recovery now. But instead we took a Socialist approach and nationalized the banks and their losses. So once again the Socialist mantra of "someone else will pay" in action.

Judgement Day · 17-11-2014 01:32PM

Who is to say that at least some of these alleged bomb threats and van burnings are not the work of Government sympathisers or agents provocateur?

P. Breathnach · 17-11-2014 01:57PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Who is to say that at least some of these alleged bomb threats and van burnings are not the work of Government sympathisers or agents provocateur?

That's about as probable as Paul Murphy's recent radio performances being a clever establishment move designed to alienate moderates from the anti water charges movement.

Callan57 · 17-11-2014 02:26PM

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

You're right of course. What the country needs is for the Gardai to go wading in swinging truncheons and cracking heads like all those other solid totalitarian states...

As would happen if we lived in Paul Murphy's preferred type of state :rolleyes:

CountyHurler · 17-11-2014 04:33PM

Comrade Joe Higgins on DriveTime in a few minutes..

Oops69 · 18-11-2014 11:07AM

Can Darren freehill read the sports news without putting emphasis on EVERY SINGLE WORD , he's painful to listen to.

Oops69 · 18-11-2014 11:14AM

Watch this Imo fella doing another pr disaster for the Gps

Oops69 · 19-11-2014 10:37AM

Don't think rte knew that Tom Clonan would give his political opinion on the water fiasco as well as his security expertise , ...or maybe they did ? , I don't know what's what any more with all the political spin going on recently .

artful_codger · 19-11-2014 11:14AM

No economic recovery seen in old man pubs in backwater rural towns.

I am shocked.

who_ru · 19-11-2014 11:17AM

Callan57 wrote: »

Paul Murphy doing his Pontius Pilate act this morning ... cowardly!
He brought a mob on to the street the very least he should do is be a man and take responsibility. :mad:

And they threw water balloons, the violence of that is terrifying, truly terrifying.

P. Breathnach · 19-11-2014 11:26AM

who_ru wrote: »

And they threw water balloons, the violence of that is terrifying, truly terrifying.

It can be. If you see a missile coming towards you, you don't have time to process ideas about what it is, or how much injury it might cause.

who_ru · 19-11-2014 11:49AM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

It can be. If you see a missile coming towards you, you don't have time to process ideas about what it is, or how much injury it might cause.

Damm right, we need to get tough on terror. Enda Kenny claims Joan Burton was kidnapped too. The level of crime committed by that blood thirsty mob is incredible. I believe her life was under serious threat, especially while the car was gently rocked back and forth, it's a miracle she's still alive really.

HeidiHeidi · 19-11-2014 11:57AM

who_ru wrote: »

Damm right, we need to get tough on terror. Enda Kenny claims Joan Burton was kidnapped too. The level of crime committed by that blood thirsty mob is incredible. I believe her life was under serious threat, especially while the car was gently rocked back and forth, it's a miracle she's still alive really.

You can take the piss, but if some random man or woman was surrounded in town in their car by a baying mob who were banging on the car and rocking it and shouting abuse for TWO HOURS there would (rightly) be blue murder about it.

I remember when I was a kid being in the car dropping my father off at a GAA match at Croke Park. My mother wound up driving up a street full of pedestrians (it was open to traffic but obviously shouldn't have been) and they started banging on the car - it was absolutely terrifying. That lasted about two minutes, but I still remember it clearly.

Just because Joan Burton and Enda Kenny are public representatives, why should they be liable to that sort of carry on? That's so far across a line I can't even see the line any more.

Oops69 · 19-11-2014 12:03PM

The threatening nature of the protest on Saturday was clearly wrong , however it beggars belief that the deputy prime minister of the country was under significant threat for two hours without being extricated by our police force , I'm sure the Tanaiste and her Garda driver were not incommunicado whilst "trapped " in the car , sorry , I just don't buy any more of this governments spin and I believe they are capable of using whichever circumstance arises to manage their profile.

who_ru · 19-11-2014 12:15PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

You can take the piss, but if some random man or woman was surrounded in town in their car by a baying mob who were banging on the car and rocking it and shouting abuse for TWO HOURS there would (rightly) be blue murder about it.

I remember when I was a kid being in the car dropping my father off at a GAA match at Croke Park. My mother wound up driving up a street full of pedestrians (it was open to traffic but obviously shouldn't have been) and they started banging on the car - it was absolutely terrifying. That lasted about two minutes, but I still remember it clearly.

Just because Joan Burton and Enda Kenny are public representatives, why should they be liable to that sort of carry on? That's so far across a line I can't even see the line any more.

If the world was populated by people posting here proclaiming that what happened in Jobstown was outrageous, terror inducing and unjustifiable then The Berlin Wall would still be upright. What happened last weekend was nothing more than a minor inconvenience blown out of all proportion by a compromised media that is, to borrow a phrase, an echo chamber for the establishment, owned in large part by an individual that has benefited greatly by the same government awarding state contracts to the company that installed the water meters, which as luck would have it, he also owns.
Please try and have a sense of perspective.

IvyTheTerrible · 19-11-2014 01:16PM

who_ru wrote: »

If the world was populated by people posting here proclaiming that what happened in Jobstown was outrageous, terror inducing and unjustifiable then The Berlin Wall would still be upright. What happened last weekend was nothing more than a minor inconvenience blown out of all proportion by a compromised media that is, to borrow a phrase, an echo chamber for the establishment, owned in large part by an individual that has benefited greatly by the same government awarding state contracts to the company that installed the water meters, which as luck would have it, he also owns.
Please try and have a sense of perspective.

Someone comparing the fall of the Iron curtain with people not wanting to pay water charges is asking for perspective?
The irony, it's delicious.

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