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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #3122
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,935 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    listermint wrote: »
    Do you deny that you will take any opportunity to write bull**** in order to further your agenda.

    You have been asked about the hundreds of thousands who have been out.
    Now answer it

    Asked what questions?

    Do I believe the over estimated numbers of people who turned out? No I do not.
    Do I believe the majority simply don't want to pay? Yes I do.

    Also can you clarify what you think my agenda is?
    I do have whats called an opinion and that is that we should all pay for water by metres whether it be through IW or not and that a government composed of AAA, DDI , far left Independents and SF wont be as gloriously perfect as people like to think when listening to their populist nonsense.


  • #3123
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,228 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    So if that was the case was brick man even caught ? or would you get a caution for that ?

    I'd be interested in hearing about that too. Can't imagine them being released without charge given there was so many Gardai present and photographic evidence.

    That would be odd to say the least


  • #3124
    MouseTail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    eug87 wrote: »


    10/300 people voted on this thread to keep IW in its current state so that looks pretty convincing to me.

    Seriously?


  • #3125
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    It just goes to show how easily people are manipulated by the media. In another country the protesters would be labeled as brave freedom fighters taking back their country.


  • #3126
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    So if that was the case was brick man even caught ? or would you get a caution for that ?

    I think 'brickboy' was one of the two arrested.

    The moan says it was 'ultra-factions'.
    She's watching Sky1 too much I think.....


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  • #3127
    steamengine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    I agree with metered water charges
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    So if that was the case was brick man even caught ? or would you get a caution for that ?

    Ayrfield Rathvale FB page has an answer to that, may not suit some posters here.


  • #3128
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    dav3 wrote: »
    It just goes to show how easily people are manipulated by the media. In another country the protesters would be labeled as brave freedom fighters taking back their country.

    :pac: Freedom fighters? What, are the Brits back?


  • #3129
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    steamengine wrote: »
    Ayrfield Rathvale FB page has an answer to that, may not suit some posters here.

    Have you a link to that page?


  • #3130
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    I think 'brickboy' was one of the two arrested.

    The moan says it was 'ultra-factions'.
    She's watching Sky1 too much I think.....

    Don't worry the cheer leaders for safe protest via ballot box will be along shortly to explain to us the name of the chap and why he was released.


  • #3131
    eug87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭eug87


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    MouseTail wrote: »
    Seriously?
    Sarcastic?:D
    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Result so far 2.7% of the vote.


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  • #3132
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,935 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    dav3 wrote: »
    It just goes to show how easily people are manipulated by the media. In another country the protesters would be labeled as brave freedom fighters taking back their country.

    Freedom from their democratically elected government who had water charges listed in their programme for government during the election?

    You know what would be great though? If we don't like them we get a chance to choose someone new every so often. That would be freedom alright.......


  • #3133
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    I am worried because the protesters in Dublin are playing into government hands. I said this before after the Galway proest, the SF and extremist element could ruin this for us anti-IW people.


  • #3134
    steamengine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    I agree with metered water charges
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Have you a link to that page?

    www.Facebook.com/ayrfieldrathvale - scroll down a bit for the story.


  • #3135
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Freedom from their democratically elected government who had water charges listed in their programme for government during the election?

    You know what would be great though? If we don't like them we get a chance to choose someone new every so often. That would be freedom alright.......

    Who lb or fg ? I thought ff signed up to this with the troika.


  • #3136
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Red Pepper wrote: »
    I am worried because the protesters in Dublin are playing into government hands. I said this before after the Galway proest, the SF and extremist element could ruin this for us anti-IW people.

    None of this is true. There is no element. Stop propagating nonsense. Your reading the independent today was it?

    Talk to people who were there will you and stop with the faux worry


    There is no subversive element. People will be out on the tenth December. Ordinary people


  • #3137
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    steamengine wrote: »
    Well right now, the Ayrfield Rathvale Facebook page has an interesting take on the alleged brick throwing in Tallaght.

    They're going with the it was a Garda angle.
    Ayrfield Rathvale Against Water Charges wrote:

    It has been now confired by a friend of a serving Garda member, stationed in
    Tallaght, that the person involved in the brick throwing incident, that was caught on video, was a serving Garda Detective b...ased in another Dublin City Garda Station.

    This confirmation was made to a friend of mine who is friends with a Uniformed Garda member that made the admission. He went on to say how he was disgusted by the actions of his colleagues in Tallaght yesterday in which he witnessed women and children being pepper sprayed by Gardai.

    The Garda went on to further talk of his disgust at the fact that he had witnessed legitimate protesters being set up from the very start. The Garda member further stated that other members have quietly expressed their disgust at the same sight of women and childern being attacked and pepper sprayed.

    The Garda member was shown the images of the person throwning the brickand stated that the blue garment under the persons red jacket is a Garda issue Stab Vest, he had no doubts about that fact.

    The Irish Independent newspaper, owned by Tax Exile Denis O'Brien,
    who owns GMC Sierra Ltd, later used a Photoshop Composite image created from a selection of other digital images taking by their photgraphers in the area yesterday.

    This fakey of images was believed to have been inspired by
    the fact that people were protesting outside the Independent Newspaper printing works in near City West that same day.

    However the attempt to discredit the legitmate protest, using the altered images, falied because people online quickly spotted that the image was clearly doctored.

    Also the fact that it showed no anti - water charge signs in the background of the image. The reason being is that the water charge protesters had left the area when Joan Burton was gone. The infamous brick throwning incident was captured an hour or so after Mrs Burton had left the Tallaght area and the protesters went home.


    Local politicians viewing the images have said that it is a say day in the nations history that a national newspaper and the Gardai conspire to discredit legimate protest over water charges.


  • #3138
    Beaner1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Beaner1


    It has now been confirmed... Confirmed by who? Paranoid freeman loons that twist every thing into their view of the world.


  • #3139
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    VinLieger wrote: »
    Freedom from their democratically elected government who had water charges listed in their programme for government during the election?

    You know what would be great though? If we don't like them we get a chance to choose someone new every so often. That would be freedom alright.......

    Weren't we told these would by at the local level via lpt or are you going to call that a spoof too?

    We have been lied to. They were elected and failed many many many times


  • #3140
    papu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Phoebas wrote: »
    They're going with the it was a Garda angle.

    Bit of a stretch to say its a stab vest. Looks like a blue shirt tucked into his pants.


  • #3141
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Beaner1 wrote: »
    It has now been confirmed... Confirmed by who? Paranoid freeman loons that twist every thing into their view of the world.

    I suppose you could ask the guards why they were released without charge. If it interests you that much


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  • #3142
    BoatMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    steamengine wrote: »
    Ayrfield Rathvale FB page has an answer to that, may not suit some posters here.

    You can't seriously believe thats the truth, wow the tin foil hat bridge are out in force.

    Did you see the video of the protestors trying to prevent The Tanaiste from getting to her car, Thats intimidation. clear intimidation


  • #3143
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    papu wrote: »
    Bit of a stretch to say its a stab vest. Looks like a blue shirt tucked into his pants.

    I'd question anything I read on the net.

    The guards can explain why charges were not lodged. Surely the evidence is pretty stark?


  • #3144
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    BoatMad wrote: »
    You can't seriously believe thats the truth, wow the tin foil hat bridge are out in force.

    Did you see the video of the protestors trying to prevent The Tanaiste from getting to her car, Thats intimidation. clear intimidation

    I would call it tearing up your mandate from the people coming back to bite you on the ass.


  • #3145
    Beaner1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Beaner1


    listermint wrote: »
    I suppose you could ask the guards why they were released without charge. If it interests you that much

    WTC7 was a controlled demolition.

    Any question to ask is why they would photoshop and image and use a garda plant. Why not just do the photoshop. Another question is why they didn't photoshop out the "stab vest".


  • #3146
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    listermint wrote: »
    I'd question anything I read on the net.

    The guards can explain why charges were not lodged. Surely the evidence is pretty stark?

    Maybe they used the same logic of letting TD's go after trespassing at an airport ?


  • #3147
    yipeeeee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭yipeeeee


    A friend of a friend knows a gard who knows a friend who says its a gard.

    Pull the other one.


  • #3148
    Annabella1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Annabella1


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/video-footage-shows-tanaiste-joan-burton-pelted-with-water-balloon-at-jobstown-protest-30748836.html

    I think the protestors crossed the line here


  • #3149
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Mate starting work with these boys tomorrow

    Fair Play to him, Moneys Money


  • #3150
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Beaner1 wrote: »
    WTC7 was a controlled demolition.

    Any question to ask is why they would photoshop and image and use a garda plant. Why not just do the photoshop. Another question is why they didn't photoshop out the "stab vest".

    Surely that "explanation" is a spoof? :eek:


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  • #3151
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Annabella1 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/video-footage-shows-tanaiste-joan-burton-pelted-with-water-balloon-at-jobstown-protest-30748836.html

    I think the protestors crossed the line here

    Don't worry to much, soon people wont be able to afford to throw water balloons around. or is she worried it was from a boil notice area ?


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