Too proud to draw the dole

realistic anorak · 16-11-2014 12:44AM #1

Remember in the celtic tiger days when people were too proud to draw their own stamps even for a week or two ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 16-11-2014 12:45AM

Yes. It was fairly recent. Is there a point?

Frank O. Pinion · 16-11-2014 12:48AM

I love these nostalgia trip threads. "Remember in the Celtic Tiger days, people drove to the moon on rainbows." Good times.

agusta · 16-11-2014 12:53AM

realistic anorak wrote: »

Remember in the celtic tiger days when people were too proud to draw their own stamps even for a week or two ?

****e talk in my opinion

Packrat · 16-11-2014 01:44AM

I lost my business of 16 years. in 2011. I couldn't draw anything then. I wouldn't have anyway, instead I moved within Ireland and found work. I've been laid off for the fourth winter a few weeks ago (My new occupation is seasonal) I've found other work, usually within a week on each occasion.
This year, for the first time since I was 18, (40 now) I'm taking till after Christmas off.
I have a young baby who is in hospital and want to spend the time with his mother and obviously take care of him.

I won't be signing on.

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole, or maybe because despite having paid hundreds of thousands of euros of tax over the years, I couldn't get anything when I badly needed it for food and fuel to get out looking for work.

I will however be deducting a percentage from future taxes paid to this fcuking banana state who take better care of some bogus asylum seeker than of its own self employed.

So maybe they can stick it up their holes now, I'll be taking care of my family myself.

darkpagandeath · 16-11-2014 01:53AM

Don't people still fly to New York and just leave all their dirty clothes in the hotel and just by more when they come back ?

Chucken · 16-11-2014 01:55AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Don't people still fly to New York and just leave all their dirty clothes in the hotel and just by more when they come back ?

I fly to New York every week to buy new decking.

o1s1n · 16-11-2014 01:55AM

Packrat wrote: »

I won't be signing on.

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole.

Sorry but anyone who does this is a moron.

You've paid countless amounts in euro every month. Sign of FFS. It's the least the country can do for you after you've contributed so much.

Kevin McCloud · 16-11-2014 01:55AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Don't people still fly to New York and just leave all their dirty clothes in the hotel and just by more when they come back ?

They bring most of their clothes home now bar underwear.

SkyBlueClouds · 16-11-2014 01:55AM

Packrat wrote: »

I lost my business of 16 years. in 2011. I couldn't draw anything then. I wouldn't have anyway, instead I moved within Ireland and found work. I've been laid off for the fourth winter a few weeks ago (My new occupation is seasonal) I've found other work, usually within a week on each occasion.
This year, for the first time since I was 18, (40 now) I'm taking till after Christmas off.
I have a young baby who is in hospital and want to spend the time with his mother and obviously take care of him.

I won't be signing on.

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole, or maybe because despite having paid hundreds of thousands of euros of tax over the years, I couldn't get anything when I badly needed it for food and fuel to get out looking for work.

I will however be deducting a percentage from future taxes paid to this fcuking banana state who take better care of some bogus asylum seeker than of its own self employed.

So maybe they can stick it up their holes now, I'll be taking care of my family myself.

Sorry to hear your predictement. Hope it improves for you soon.

Packrat · 16-11-2014 02:03AM

SkyBlueClouds wrote: »

Sorry to hear your predictement. Hope it improves for you soon.

Thank you, - it already has. I'm deliberately not looking for anything until the new year as I've saved up over the summer and can comfortably afford mortgage and bills for a while.
Little Packrat will be fine in time too :-)

B.A._Baracus · 16-11-2014 02:07AM

"too proud to draw the dole" is another term for moron.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 16-11-2014 02:13AM

A lot of hatred in this thread, and it's only only page 1...

Micky Dolenz · 16-11-2014 02:14AM

I've never been in a position where I needed to draw the dole but would on a heart beat.

OP, isn't drawing stamps different than jsa (dole).

Salt001 · 16-11-2014 02:22AM

Packrat wrote: »

I lost my business of 16 years. in 2011. I couldn't draw anything then. I wouldn't have anyway, instead I moved within Ireland and found work. I've been laid off for the fourth winter a few weeks ago (My new occupation is seasonal) I've found other work, usually within a week on each occasion.
This year, for the first time since I was 18, (40 now) I'm taking till after Christmas off.
I have a young baby who is in hospital and want to spend the time with his mother and obviously take care of him.

I won't be signing on.

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole, or maybe because despite having paid hundreds of thousands of euros of tax over the years, I couldn't get anything when I badly needed it for food and fuel to get out looking for work.

I will however be deducting a percentage from future taxes paid to this fcuking banana state who take better care of some bogus asylum seeker than of its own self employed.

So maybe they can stick it up their holes now, I'll be taking care of my family myself.

Well buddy you wouldn't get anything anyway because you were self-employed despite having paid all through the years for employees and yourself etc. However you will not be deducting anything in future because if you are paye or a prsi worker its all done before it even gets to you. BTW people who are " too proud to draw the dole" after working for countless years need to pull their heads out and give themselves a quick kick up the ass

Tokyo · 16-11-2014 02:25AM

Don't draw the dole and you're a moron.

Do draw the dole and you're too lazy or useless to get a job/a foreigner coming over here to screw the system/a single mum leaking out kids like the Exxon Valdez so you can screw the state for the next 20 years....

Seems like some people get up in the morning solely to find something to complain about....

0byme75341jo28 · 16-11-2014 02:29AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

"too proud to draw the dole" is another term for moron.

Yep. I can see the thinking behind it, and I'd have some bit of respect for someone who made that decision, but yes, I'd think of it as a moronic thing to do.

lertsnim · 16-11-2014 02:32AM

I'd question the mentality of someone who is too proud to draw the dole.

Jen Pigs Fly · 16-11-2014 02:33AM

I got laid off on Thursday the 13th ... Went to the social on the Friday.
I've been working since I was 17 so working for 7 years, don't have a social services card, never been on the dole before and over four years in full time work I feel the social owes me a bit of hep while I find another job.

I don't plan on staying on the dole, but I know I'll need It for the next while until I get something else, I feel it's the sensible thing to do, I've paid my tax for this very reason.

Tarzana2 · 16-11-2014 02:36AM

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I love these nostalgia trip threads. "Remember in the Celtic Tiger days, people drove to the moon on rainbows." Good times.

I still do that. *sips shroom tea*

Tarzana2 · 16-11-2014 02:40AM

Packrat wrote: »

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole, or maybe because despite having paid hundreds of thousands of euros of tax over the years, I couldn't get anything when I badly needed it for food and fuel to get out looking for work.

Well, to be honest, I don't think it makes you too proud, I just think doing a job and getting paid is so much better, whatever the job. Even on minimum wage (full time), a person is so much better off than on the dole. (despite the claims made on here about people on the dole living in luxury :rolleyes:)

Geuze · 16-11-2014 02:49AM

Scarlett Flaky Wheelchair wrote: »

A lot of hatred in this thread, and it's only only page 1...

I didn't feel any hatred...........??

Geuze · 16-11-2014 02:50AM

Note that JSA is known as the "dole".

JSB is based on PRSI contributions.

Many countries have only JSB, and don't have any JSA.

bodice ripper · 16-11-2014 02:54AM

mike_ie wrote: »

Seems like some people get up in the morning solely to find something to complain about....

It's the only thing that can get me out of bed...

Salt001 · 16-11-2014 03:04AM

If you are the average worker not self employed and not civil service, or indeed not skilled ie. if you are working for minimum wage you do not have the option of being high minded.

petrolcan · 16-11-2014 03:12AM

Packrat wrote: »

I lost my business of 16 years. in 2011. I couldn't draw anything then. I wouldn't have anyway, instead I moved within Ireland and found work. I've been laid off for the fourth winter a few weeks ago (My new occupation is seasonal) I've found other work, usually within a week on each occasion.
This year, for the first time since I was 18, (40 now) I'm taking till after Christmas off.
I have a young baby who is in hospital and want to spend the time with his mother and obviously take care of him.

I won't be signing on.

So maybe I'm too proud to draw dole, or maybe because despite having paid hundreds of thousands of euros of tax over the years, I couldn't get anything when I badly needed it for food and fuel to get out looking for work.

I will however be deducting a percentage from future taxes paid to this fcuking banana state who take better care of some bogus asylum seeker than of its own self employed.

So maybe they can stick it up their holes now, I'll be taking care of my family myself.

Just so you know, I was right there with you until you mentioned asylum seeker.

dizzymenace · 16-11-2014 03:43AM

o know of a lot of people that drop out of school at 18 to sign on the dole. my sister signed on at 18, shes 21 now and no future. my brother is on the dole for about 8 years give or take. he's 31 now and no future in sight. out of my family (3 siblings) i'm the only one with a leaving cert and i bet i'd be the only one with a college degree. im 19 ow and i'm fighting with every fiber of my being to never sign on in my life.

Squeedily Spooch · 16-11-2014 04:05AM

It really sucks that sole traders and small business owners can't get social welfare if they need it, what happens if you didn't always own your own business and worked for someone else but never claimed the dole? Do you lose it once you go into business for yourself?

One eyed Jack · 16-11-2014 04:15AM

Squeedily Spooch wrote: »

It really sucks that sole traders and small business owners can't get social welfare if they need it, what happens if you didn't always own your own business and worked for someone else but never claimed the dole? Do you lose it once you go into business for yourself?

I don't know why that myth keeps doing the rounds among people. Self-employed people are entitled to the same social welfare assistance as anyone else when they become unemployed -

Self-employed and unemployment

Packrat · 16-11-2014 09:26AM

Salt001 wrote: »

Well buddy you wouldn't get anything anyway because you were self-employed despite having paid all through the years for employees and yourself etc. However you will not be deducting anything in future because if you are paye or a prsi worker its all done before it even gets to you. BTW people who are " too proud to draw the dole" after working for countless years need to pull their heads out and give themselves a quick kick up the ass

He he he. :rolleyes:

Packrat · 16-11-2014 09:30AM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't know why that myth keeps doing the rounds among people. Self-employed people are entitled to the same social welfare assistance as anyone else when they become unemployed -

Self-employed and unemployment

No. No they are not. You misunderstand. Even Joan Burton doesn't try to claim that they do.

Try reading your link again.

Too proud to draw the dole

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