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PSV for Minibus?

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  • #32
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    CiniO wrote: »
    That's in relation to public bus licence.

    But even if someone hires a bus as vehicle entirely for a group for set price, they still need licence for passenger transport to operate such bus.

    Not according to the last line of the link, can't cut n paste on the phone but I'll see if I can get on the pc later


  • #33
    CiniO
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Not according to the last line of the link, can't cut n paste on the phone but I'll see if I can get on the pc later

    I think you are mixing two separate things.
    Public bus licence is different thing to road passenger transport operator's licence.

    To carry people for reward in your bus, no matter how you charge those people for it (with set fares, or rent out whole bus with driver to carry a group wherever they want) you need Road passenger transport operator's licence.

    If you want to run buses, and pick up people from bus stops, you need the above licence + additionally Public bus licence which you linked information to.


  • #34
    Max210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Max210


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Not according to the last line of the link, can't cut n paste on the phone but I'll see if I can get on the pc later

    Thanks you are a great help:)


  • #35
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Here's more info:
    Road Passenger Transport Operator Licence

    You need a Road Passenger Transport Operator's Licence if you are carrying passengers by road for hire or reward in vehicles constructed and equipped so as to be suitable for carrying nine or more passengers.

    "Hire or Reward" arises when you are paid for carrying passengers. If carrying passengers is not your main business, and if you are not charging your passengers a fee, then you do not need a Licence.

    For example, a hotel that owns a bus that it uses to ferry its guests, as a complimentary service, to and from an airport or tourist attractions, would not need a Licence.
    http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Professional-Drivers/Owners-and-managers/Operator-licensing/


  • #36
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    CiniO wrote: »
    I think you are mixing two separate things.
    Public bus licence is different thing to road passenger transport operator's licence.

    To carry people for reward in your bus, no matter how you charge those people for it (with set fares, or rent out whole bus with driver to carry a group wherever they want) you need Road passenger transport operator's licence.

    If you want to run buses, and pick up people from bus stops, you need the above licence + additionally Public bus licence which you linked information to.
    You are correct there is another license from the RSA, see here IMO. They could make it easier for people if the NTA had links to things you need not covered by them
    http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Professional-Drivers/Owners-and-managers/Operator-licensing/


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  • #37
    Max210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Max210


    Yeah saw that but need 9,000 in bank to apply for license


  • #38
    Going Forward
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    Max210 wrote: »
    Hi sorry new to using this,

    party bus ,

    Have you bought it already?


    The legal aspect depends on whether you are intending on hiring your vehicle to the public for a fee unless you're going to provide the service for free it'll be for hire and reward, private/public hire doesn't come into it in that regard.

    If you are you'll need an operators license, a driver with D D1 drivers licence and up to date CpC , vehicle will need current DOE and PSV licence from guards and need to be insured for hire and reward.


  • #39
    Max210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Max210


    Going Forward wrote: »
    Have you bought it already?


    The legal aspect depends on whether you are intending on hiring your vehicle to the public for a fee unless you're going to provide the service for free it'll be for hire and reward, private/public hire doesn't come into it in that regard.

    If you are you'll need an operators license, a driver with D D1 drivers licence and up to date CpC , vehicle will need current DOE and PSV licence from guards and need to be insured for hire and reward.
    . Yeah have it already have insurance sorted , and drivers has all the above , is it hard to get the operators licence


  • #40
    Going Forward
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    Max210 wrote: »
    . Yeah have it already have insurance sorted , and drivers has all the above , is it hard to get the operators licence

    It's comes from the Dept transport, there's a course, and exam.

    I looked at doing a party bus years ago, was told by guys in bus game to steer clear because lots of them have been built with wrong seats and layout etc and are not particularly liked by PSV officers because they don't like signing off on them if they're anyway out of the ordinary.
    Is it definitely DOed?


  • #41
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Max210 wrote: »
    . Yeah have it already have insurance sorted , and drivers has all the above , is it hard to get the operators licence

    If you're in either Wexford or Waterford you'll struggle to get either of those psv sergeant's to ok a party bus...


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  • #42
    Max210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Max210


    Thanks it has been runing as a party bus up the north


  • #43
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Max210 wrote: »
    Thanks it has been runing as a party bus up the north

    The licensing regime is different in the UK.

    You never said if it was DOE'd is it?


  • #44
    Max210
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭Max210


    yes it is being DOE'D


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