Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

The Moldy Gowl · 12-11-2014 09:39AM

It was 28 for Nani and Anderson? Seems a pretty fair price for what we were buying. Wouldnt call him a flop, more so just unfortunate and peoples perceptions about his 'weight' cloud their judgement.

He has been rubbish for a long while but was good for a little while. Il be glad he will be gone though.

advertsfox · 12-11-2014 09:55AM

Ah look at baby face De Gea :P

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hufpc8w3adnk65 · 12-11-2014 10:08AM

advertsfox wrote: »

Ah look at baby face De Gea :P

Really important we tie him down too a new deal asap and keep madrid away from him

homerjay2005 · 12-11-2014 10:19AM

Based off his start to his career at the club so far, spending €40million + on Falcao would be madness.

We should not commit to anything as so far he hasnt done much to show we should sign him.

dahat · 12-11-2014 10:33AM

Off topic but posted in the tickets thread that I'm trying to get to the Spurs home game on March,two tickets.

Very early to be looking i know but as a first time visitor I want to get sorted early if possible instead of going the package deal route.

Any help be appreciated.

Crimson King · 12-11-2014 11:16AM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

It was 28 for Nani and Anderson? Seems a pretty fair price for what we were buying. Wouldnt call him a flop, more so just unfortunate and peoples perceptions about his 'weight' cloud their judgement

United stated on their website the day they announced the signings (from nowhere, it took most of us totally by surprise) that they bought Nani & Anderson for a combined fee of £32M without giving a breakdown. It's only in the last few season United seem to be more forthcoming with what they pay for players and agent fees for that matter.

Every man and his dog knew Nani's release fee was £14M so being a mathematical genius I can work out Anderson's fee was £18M. Yet still to this day I see journalists and even wiki pages quote a fee of >£20M for Anderson and the same amount for Nani.

So either United lied about the combined fees which I highly doubt because it was at a time when United fans feared the Glazer's would only be asset stripping the club and not invest in the club properly or journalists as per usual have no idea about United's affairs and just guess.

Your Airbag · 12-11-2014 11:18AM

Guillem Balague has pissed off CR7 by the looks of it. I wonder will he take him to court.

Giggsy11 · 12-11-2014 11:48AM

Crimson King wrote: »

United stated on their website the day they announced the signings (from nowhere, it took most of us totally by surprise) that they bought Nani & Anderson for a combined fee of £32M without giving a breakdown. It's only in the last few season United seem to be more forthcoming with what they pay for players and agent fees for that matter.

Every man and his dog knew Nani's release fee was £14M so being a mathematical genius I can work out Anderson's fee was £18M. Yet still to this day I see journalists and even wiki pages quote a fee of >£20M for Anderson and the same amount for Nani.

So either United lied about the combined fees which I highly doubt because it was at a time when United fans feared the Glazer's would only be asset stripping the club and not invest in the club properly or journalists as per usual have no idea about United's affairs and just guess.

Easy to see why there is a confusion. Porto announced that they got 30 Million Euros for Anderson, back then in 2007 pound was much stronger than Euro which meant ManUtd paid 18 Million pounds.

Journalists either ignorantly or to make better headline use today's exchange rate which gives this more than 25 Million price.

Journalists are just as thick as footballers. If the price is quoted in Euros they will just use pound sign without even converting the number to pounds. Likewise they use today's exchange rate for the deal that happened in 2007 which is silly.

The Moldy Gowl · 12-11-2014 11:51AM

Yeah happens all the time when you see those lists of most expensive flops, especially around the 00's

Even this year with falcao and his wages, adding it into the loan fee

223vmax · 12-11-2014 12:00PM

RVP picked up a knock in training out for a week at least.

advertsfox · 12-11-2014 12:01PM

223vmax wrote: »

RVP picked up a knock in training out for a week at least.

Could it be Wilsons time to shine??

Will I Amnt · 12-11-2014 12:01PM

223vmax wrote: »

RVP picked up a knock in training out for a week at least.

Blessing in disguise???

Crimson King · 12-11-2014 12:09PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Journalists are just as thick as footballers. If the price is quoted in Euros they will just use pound sign without even converting the number to pounds. Likewise they use today's exchange rate for the deal that happened in 2007 which is silly.

I sometimes feel this way, but more often I feel there is an agenda. Fergie was hated by journalists, a lot of the times deservedly tbh, other times it was because he hurt their inflated ego's. If there is any way to take cheap shots at him they will purposefully act ignorantly.

Crimson King · 12-11-2014 12:10PM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Blessing in disguise???

Exactly, play Rooney up front, he loves playing against Arsenal.

12-11-2014 12:28PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Guillem Balague has pissed off CR7 by the looks of it. I wonder will he take him to court.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/cristiano-ronaldo/11216813/Revealed-Cristiano-Ronaldos-obscene-nickname-for-Lionel-Messi-in-the-Real-Madrid-dressing-room.html

Lord TSC · 12-11-2014 12:54PM

Would the week just be the internAtional break?

kryogen · 12-11-2014 01:13PM

I hope so, feckin injuries

Mantis Toboggan · 12-11-2014 01:21PM

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Hae the permanent deal for falcao been done already?

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Yes. Come back to us in 15 games and then cast judgement on his time here.
You did this the other day.

What are you on about?

DARK-KNIGHT · 12-11-2014 01:53PM

seeing a story on facebook saying van gaal willing to accept offers of 20 or more million for mata...

http://lockerdome.com/footballnews1/6170047139808833/7144012612246801

J. Marston · 12-11-2014 02:07PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

seeing a story on facebook saying van gaal willing to accept offers of 20 or more million for mata...

http://lockerdome.com/footballnews1/6170047139808833/7144012612246801

♫ If you leave me now, you take away the biggest part of me
Oooooooh Mata, please don't go ♫

You're going to see a lot more shít like that posted by me over the next ten days with nothing United related to talk about.

mcratsix · 12-11-2014 02:12PM

Don't want Mata to go. Rooney's a better no.10 in my opinion, but in an ideal world we'd play mata behind rooney and falcao.

homerjay2005 · 12-11-2014 02:18PM

advertsfox wrote: »

Could it be Wilsons time to shine??

Errm Rooney up top please.

brinty · 12-11-2014 02:31PM

Slow week...
International weeks are sooooooooo boring

No way Mata is going, there's more players who would be available to sell before the Special Juan

We need to have a quality squad before next season when we're back in the CL. Juan is one of the players we'll need. Don't forget Rooney, Falcao and RVP are late 20's early 30's so we'll need guys in their mid 20's to boost the squad. No point having a team of no experinced players when a Falcao (if he stays), Rooney or RVP is no longer there, thats where your Mata, Angel etc are important

Giggsy11 · 12-11-2014 03:08PM

Carrick is injured now, groin injury.

Giggsy11 · 12-11-2014 03:09PM

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ 7m7 minutes ago

Sky Sources: Michael Carrick to have scan on groin injury #SSNHQ

Nalz · 12-11-2014 03:24PM

poo

RobertKK · 12-11-2014 03:47PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Guillem Balague has pissed off CR7 by the looks of it. I wonder will he take him to court.

zorro2566 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/cristiano-ronaldo/11216813/Revealed-Cristiano-Ronaldos-obscene-nickname-for-Lionel-Messi-in-the-Real-Madrid-dressing-room.html

This is rather funny in that they were discussing this on Off the ball last night, and taking it as fact what Ballague wrote.
Then Ronaldo posted about suing anyone who was spreading these lies and they read this out and decided it was better to step away from that discussion.

Ballague probably made up the relationship being like Ireland and Britain too.

I wonder does Monaco have that deposit now that we gave to Atletico for Falcao...

MagicMarker · 12-11-2014 03:51PM

Carrick inured after being rushed back from injury shock horror.

Giggsy11 · 12-11-2014 03:58PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Carrick inured after being rushed back from injury shock horror.

Rushed back? He was given enough time to recover. Also his previous injury was ankle injury, this time groin.

MagicMarker · 12-11-2014 04:01PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Rushed back? He was given enough time to recover. Also his previous injury was ankle injury, this time groin.

Yeah he was given time and then was forced to pay 60 mins as a sub and then a full 90. He should have been eased back into things with a few 20 minute sub appearances. This was not possibly for obvious reasons of course.

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