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Local Thug Died

  • 11-11-2014 09:40PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭


    Basically a lad from my home town, in his mid 20's died this week due to various complications caused by long term hard drug use.

    He had many convictions, armed robbery & assault to name but a few and spent time in prison.

    He was an active thug and outright scummer up until the complications started several months ago. Not a weekend would go by where him or one of his cronies would assault someone outside one of the many bars they were barred from after closing. He is from a long line of thugs and many of his midnight buddies he's left behind I would imagine are still strung out on the same hard drugs that killed him at this moment.

    What I cannot get my head around is the outpouring of grief from a lot of people from the town on social media, very respected business people too. Not 6/7 years ago did he use a hand gun to rob the local mace holding up a young girl from the town with a gun, the shop shortly after closed because of it.

    I have had little or no dealings with him in 10 years. But maybe my thought process is tainted as my last dealing with him was a headbut which i received when I was 17.

    Am I being harsh or does an unbelievably filthy past one of bullying, terrorising, beatings and assaults, drug use, robbery, vandalism and many many more be forgiven just like that?


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    It's Ireland. Never a bollox died, they're all saints in the graveyard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    It's Ireland. Never a bollox died, they're all saints in the graveyard.

    Indeed, just look at Haughey's funeral...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭solomafioso


    Because this backwards Catholic country doesn't like to "speak ill of the dead". C*nt in life is still a c*nt in death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What I cannot get my head around is the outpouring of grief from a lot of people from the town on social media

    Well the dead guy is unlikely to see it so maybe it's more for the benefit of his grieving family, who are a grieving family regardless of what the dead guy got up to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    One less scummer in the world. I wish there was a bad batch of yokes to wipe out a few in my town too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭fro9etb8j5qsl2


    That sh1te drives me bonkers. When I die, I hope at least one person will have the balls to come out and say I was an auld b1tch....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    Couldn't have said it better T/B. Just look at the send off we gave that durty thief Charlie Haughley. Sure we never speak ill of the dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Seems to be an Irish thing. Everyone gets a hard on for the dead. A girl killed herself (strung out too) at the end of summer, she had one friend and was dead for days before anyone realised she was gone. Over 200 people showed up at the funeral and people who beat her up the year before were writing tributes to the "beautiful young woman"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    I think this just shows the good nature of your local community, even with all the bad deeds he did they can still show respect at his passing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Just be happy he is dead op and the odd night just grab a bottle of Jemmy and go up and dance a jig on his grave.
    Will make you feel better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Michael Weston


    I think this thread is going to be good craic , have seen this happen in my own town, absolute skank died in prison from an overdose. He's in for dealing and assault and the local rag prints the headline such and such was a gentle giant!!! He was not he was a Robbin prick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Well the dead guy is unlikely to see it so maybe it's more for the benefit of his grieving family, who are a grieving family regardless of what the dead guy got up to?

    Why not just say nothing. His family are far from upstanding citizens themselves and are well known throughout the town. To call them scum would be an insult to scum.

    What they have cost the tax payer in free legal aid and jail time I would hate to see let alone social welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    jamesbere wrote: »
    I think this just shows the good nature of your local community, even with all the bad deeds he did they can still show respect at his passing.

    It does show the good nature of the local community you're right but I'd say f*ck him. The guy was a prick and a hindrance to the town.


    He's no loss I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Just be happy he is dead op and the odd night just grab a bottle of Jemmy and go up and dance a jig on his grave.
    Will make you feel better.

    I can safely say I'm not glad he's dead. I have no feelings either way I am that long gone from the town.

    If he died tragically I suppose one might have some sort of feeling but he what he died from was self inflicted through years of hard drug abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    It does show the good nature of the local community you're right but I'd say f*ck him. The guy was a prick and a hindrance to the town.


    He's no loss I'd imagine.

    Give it a few days and no one will be talking about him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    OP, Maybe the lad had changed his ways since you last had any dealings with him?

    A good few of the troublemakers in my home town were wild when they were in their teens/early twenties but then quietened down when they got a bit older and wised up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    OP, Maybe the lad had changed his ways since you last had any dealings with him?

    A good few of the troublemakers in my home town were wild when they were in their teens/early twenties but then quietened down when they got a bit older and wised up.

    He said in the OP that this fella was still at it up until his health problems started a few months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭retroactive


    It's Ireland. Never a bollox died, they're all saints in the graveyard.

    Christ, I nearly broke a rib laughing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    He said in the OP that this fella was still at it up until his health problems started a few months ago.

    He also said he had nothing to do with him for the last ten years.

    Was just offering a possible suggestion as to why the locals were expressing their sympathies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Why not just say nothing. His family are far from upstanding citizens themselves and are well known throughout the town. To call them scum would be an insult to scum.

    What they have cost the tax payer in free legal aid and jail time I would hate to see let alone social welfare.

    That still doesn't mean that they're not a grieving family. Ideally people would say nothing instead of feigning sadness and venting their spleens, but would you prefer to see a community openly celebrate the death of a person?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I wouldn't say I have any sympathy for anyone like that whose lifestyle or whatever led them to this. But on the other hand, I hate to speak ill of the dead, they were someones son or daughter, whatever, someone somewhere loved them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10 trapattack


    Don't do a Fran on it are you will never look at a pool queue or taking a shower the same again!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭Chunners


    **** him, the grave is not a "get out of jail free card", if he was a prick when he was alive he is just as much a prick when he is dead, just because he is a stiffy now doesn't make him all of a sudden a saint that we should all pity because "his life was cut short", if he wasn't such an asshole from the start then maybe it wouldn't have been. He made his choices let him die with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,848 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Did we not have this thread a while back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    Saw this before when some lad took himself and a load of people out in a drink and drugs fuelled car crash, you'd think Mandela had died the way some people were going on.

    I felt it was a bit OTT but given how bad the family must have felt (grief mixed with shame) the dishonesty of the post-mortem lionisation of the guy on social media and elsewhere didn't really bother me.

    Ultimately there's no point getting too bothered about other people's opinions, they'll mostly be wrong so it's a losing battle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    rip, cant stop cryin so sad, heavans got a new angle now sleep tight hun xx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    It's just the worst trait in our national character: cowardice. The guy was a scrote who brought misery to others. If people don't want to tell it like it was then they should just say nothing. The absence of the usual shyte should get the message across. It's interesting you say he came from a long line of thugs. They usually do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Michael Weston


    uote="RayM;92998411"]rip, cant stop cryin so sad, heavans got a new angle now sleep tight hun xx[/quote]

    What new angle is heaven working now ;-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker



    What new angle is heaven working now ;-)

    An acute one.


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