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Is it reasonable to tell someone to stop smoking

  • 10-11-2014 07:24PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭


    at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

    This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    No.

    The shove was a bit much though. Telling you to "Fack off" would've been enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Nope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    biko wrote: »
    yes
    No.

    maybe, can you repeat the question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Sclosages wrote: »
    at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

    This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:


    Escalated quickly, needs more context.

    If someone asks me, certainly I wouldn't have an issue with putting out my cigarette. Nice to be nice and all that, and it's not a major inconvenience, to me at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    maybe, can you repeat the question

    You're not the boss of me now!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Wouldn't it have been easier to move the children slightly away from the smoker.

    You were outdoors weren't you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    No.

    Get the kids to stand further away, or just give them a fag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Were you the smoker?

    I think it's ok to politely ask somebody to not smoke. I also think it's ok to politely refuse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

    Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭Chunners


    Sclosages wrote: »
    at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

    This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:

    I don't understand, did you tell someone to stop smoking or did someone tell you to stop smoking?

    Either way the answer is no, it's outside in the open air so unless the person was blowing smoke into the kids faces it is no ones business if they choose to smoke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    This is madness to be honest, you cannot dictate to people what to or not to do. If someone was masturbating furiously at the bus stop would you tell them to stop if you didnt like it? No, you'd more than likely just stand out of the splash zone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    You'd never see people around here smoking at a bus stop with children around.



    Wee bastards would be cadging ones off them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    It would have been far more reasonable to make a polite request. People, by and large, respond more positive to reasonable requests than to commands/demands.

    A reasonable person, asked in a proper manner would accede to such a request or reposition themselves so that the smoke isn't directed in another's path.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    Sclosages wrote: »
    I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

    Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.

    in that context i'd say nether of you was in the right,

    she should never have behaved the way she did, or ask you to stop smoking, but then you were standing at a bus stop and smoking in front of 30 school children....

    so imo you were both being unreasonable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    Yes I think it'sa reasonable request. I'd prepare myself for a fùck of or a torrent of abuse or just a plain no.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Uriel. wrote: »
    It would have been far more reasonable to make a polite request. People, by and large, respond more positive to reasonable requests than to commands/demands.

    A reasonable person, asked in a proper manner would accede to such a request or reposition themselves so that the smoke isn't directed in another's path.

    The smoke wasn't next, night or near the poor craturs! They were about 6 feet away in the open feicin air!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Sclosages wrote: »
    I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

    Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.

    You both acted the tit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    A shove in time saves nine.

    I smoke and I smoke a bus stops but if a mother asks me to step away a bit I will, out of manners.
    I won't get all up in her grill and act the maggot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    Uriel. wrote: »
    You both acted the tit.

    There's always one reasoned poster who sees both sides of the argument.... :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    She was about a foot taller than me and 6 stone heavier than me. She almost landed me out onto the middle of the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,059 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Sclosages wrote: »
    There's always one reasoned poster who sees both sides of the argument.... :pac:

    :) true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    biko wrote: »
    A shove in time saves nine.

    this shove it would seem saved 30! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,779 ✭✭✭A Neurotic


    Those who smoke at bus/Luas stops will be the first to die in my new régime. Pisses me right off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    in that context i'd say nether of you was in the right,

    she should never have behaved the way she did, or ask you to stop smoking, but then you were standing at a bus stop and smoking in front of 30 school children....

    so imo you were both being unreasonable

    I know, I know - smoking in front of the childer. Whatever is the world coming to. FFS.
    Did you know there is going to be an historic ad tonight for an e-cig - on the telly - best keep the precious darlings away from the box for the foreseeable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    A Neurotic wrote: »
    Those who smoke at bus/Luas stops will be the first to die in my new régime. Pisses me right off.

    or in enclosed door spaces... don't forget the enclosed spaces! smoke still lingers around and it smells awful :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sclosages wrote: »
    She was about a foot taller than me and 6 stone heavier than me. She almost landed me out onto the middle of the road.
    You're just making stuff up now...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    biko wrote: »
    You're just making stuff up now...

    Eh, no I'm not.


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