Is it reasonable to tell someone to stop smoking

Sclosages

at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:

biko

yes

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

No.

The shove was a bit much though. Telling you to "Fack off" would've been enough.

Slicemeister

No

marienbad

no

TheBeardedLady

Nope.

jaykay74

biko wrote: »

yes

The Cunning Linguist wrote: »

No.

maybe, can you repeat the question

One eyed Jack

Sclosages wrote: »

at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:

Escalated quickly, needs more context.

If someone asks me, certainly I wouldn't have an issue with putting out my cigarette. Nice to be nice and all that, and it's not a major inconvenience, to me at least.

Slicemeister

jaykay74 wrote: »

maybe, can you repeat the question

You're not the boss of me now!!

AnonoBoy

Wouldn't it have been easier to move the children slightly away from the smoker.

You were outdoors weren't you?

Sheep Lover

No.

Get the kids to stand further away, or just give them a fag.

December2012

Were you the smoker?

I think it's ok to politely ask somebody to not smoke. I also think it's ok to politely refuse.

Sclosages

I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.

Chunners

Sclosages wrote: »

at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:

I don't understand, did you tell someone to stop smoking or did someone tell you to stop smoking?

Either way the answer is no, it's outside in the open air so unless the person was blowing smoke into the kids faces it is no ones business if they choose to smoke

Sheep Lover

This is madness to be honest, you cannot dictate to people what to or not to do. If someone was masturbating furiously at the bus stop would you tell them to stop if you didnt like it? No, you'd more than likely just stand out of the splash zone.

The Backwards Man

You'd never see people around here smoking at a bus stop with children around.



Wee bastards would be cadging ones off them!

Uriel.

It would have been far more reasonable to make a polite request. People, by and large, respond more positive to reasonable requests than to commands/demands.

A reasonable person, asked in a proper manner would accede to such a request or reposition themselves so that the smoke isn't directed in another's path.

hoodwinked

Sclosages wrote: »

I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.

in that context i'd say nether of you was in the right,

she should never have behaved the way she did, or ask you to stop smoking, but then you were standing at a bus stop and smoking in front of 30 school children....

so imo you were both being unreasonable

pauliebdub

Yes I think it'sa reasonable request. I'd prepare myself for a fùck of or a torrent of abuse or just a plain no.

Sclosages

Uriel. wrote: »

It would have been far more reasonable to make a polite request. People, by and large, respond more positive to reasonable requests than to commands/demands.

A reasonable person, asked in a proper manner would accede to such a request or reposition themselves so that the smoke isn't directed in another's path.

The smoke wasn't next, night or near the poor craturs! They were about 6 feet away in the open feicin air!!!!!

Uriel.

Sclosages wrote: »

I didn't do the shoving. I looked around, spotted two kids at the other end of the bus-stop (clearly the spawn of the 'lady' who accosted me), looked up at the great blue yonder, appraised the air all around me - walked out from underneath the bus-shelter and asked the individual concerned whether she was demented. I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha. So I asked her whether she'd like to discuss it with the police. She said I'd be dead before I'd get to call the police. So I called her a thug. Then her other half came along and calmed her down and all was well again. All this at 4pm, at a bus stop with about 40 people waiting, 30 of them school kids.

Classy burd. Doing her bit for the welfare of her children God bless her.

You both acted the tit.

biko

A shove in time saves nine.

I smoke and I smoke a bus stops but if a mother asks me to step away a bit I will, out of manners.
I won't get all up in her grill and act the maggot.

Sclosages

Uriel. wrote: »

You both acted the tit.

There's always one reasoned poster who sees both sides of the argument.... :pac:

Sclosages

She was about a foot taller than me and 6 stone heavier than me. She almost landed me out onto the middle of the road.

Uriel.

Sclosages wrote: »

There's always one reasoned poster who sees both sides of the argument.... :pac:

true

hoodwinked

biko wrote: »

A shove in time saves nine.

this shove it would seem saved 30!

A Neurotic

Those who smoke at bus/Luas stops will be the first to die in my new régime. Pisses me right off.

Sclosages

hoodwinked wrote: »

in that context i'd say nether of you was in the right,

she should never have behaved the way she did, or ask you to stop smoking, but then you were standing at a bus stop and smoking in front of 30 school children....

so imo you were both being unreasonable

I know, I know - smoking in front of the childer. Whatever is the world coming to. FFS.
Did you know there is going to be an historic ad tonight for an e-cig - on the telly - best keep the precious darlings away from the box for the foreseeable.

hoodwinked

A Neurotic wrote: »

Those who smoke at bus/Luas stops will be the first to die in my new régime. Pisses me right off.

or in enclosed door spaces... don't forget the enclosed spaces! smoke still lingers around and it smells awful

biko

Sclosages wrote: »

She was about a foot taller than me and 6 stone heavier than me. She almost landed me out onto the middle of the road.

You're just making stuff up now...

Sclosages

biko wrote: »

You're just making stuff up now...

Eh, no I'm not.

hoodwinked

Sclosages wrote: »

I know, I know - smoking in front of the childer. Whatever is the world coming to. FFS.
Did you know there is going to be an historic ad tonight for an e-cig - on the telly - best keep the precious darlings away from the box for the foreseeable.

there is a reason smoking in area's with children is being banned e.g in the car.... clearly people don't have the common sense to not promote smoking in front of them

December2012

It's scummy behaviour to blow smoke into somebody's face......

Uriel.

If it's any value to you OP, I fell down once.

Sclosages

hoodwinked wrote: »

there is a reason smoking in area's with children is being banned e.g in the car.... clearly people don't have the common sense to not promote smoking in front of them

I think there's someone in Australia smoking as we type! Quick, run for cover!!!!! :eek:

auldgranny

Sclosages wrote: »

She was about a foot taller than me and 6 stone heavier than me. She almost landed me out onto the middle of the road.

See, smoking IS dangerous.

Sclosages

December2012 wrote: »

It's scummy behaviour to blow smoke into somebody's face......

It's scummy behaviour to attack someone minding their own business and verbally assault them for 2 solid minutes with your face stuck in theirs. It is also scummy behaviour to shove someone. In front of your own kids and in front of 30 other kids.

AnonoBoy

So you were smoking near children too but only she was the one who had to stop?

I'm confused to be honest.

reprise

Sclosages wrote: »

at a bus-stop as there are kids around?

This happened me today. I also got shoved and sent flying for my back-chat. :cool:

I trust you stood on the road, flagged down the car drivers and requested they direct their exhausts elsewhere too. :rolleyes:

Lapin

If it was a bus stop like this, then no.

If it was a bus stop like this, then yes.

If it was a bus stop like this, then maybe.


All depends on the species of bus stop really.

Sclosages

Since their appears to be some confusion, I was the smoker.......

--LOS--

"Are you demented" was never really going to inspire a calm response was it.

AnonoBoy

Sclosages wrote: »

Since their appears to be some confusion, I was the smoker.......

She shouldn't have shoved you but you did blow smoke in her face, what did you expect was going to happen? You'd blow smoke in her face and she'd decide that you'd won the argument and walk calmly away?

If it was a boards thread she'd be red-carded but you'd be getting at least a yellow yourself if not a red.

c_man

I think it's generally good manners to not smoke in a bus shelter.

EazyD

Getting a lungful of Dublin Bus fumes would be far more damaging than second hand smoke. Not that I'm saying smoking near kids is acceptable.

Sclosages

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Would you not just have moved away from the kids?

Like - cross the road? Perhaps smoking in public should be outlawed should it?
It's not, last I heard............

My name is URL

Sclosages wrote: »

I then got it 'all up in my face' for about 2 minutes until I blew smoke into her face out of bouldness. She was very close to me so I was quite happy with the result. The big beeatch then sent my flying, teetering on me high heels, to the far end of the bus stop haha.

You both sound like you were acting like a pair of tramps.

Blowing smoke into someones face is just absolutely scummy.. I don't care what they said to 'deserve' it.

auldgranny

Sclosages wrote: »

Like - cross the road? Perhaps smoking in public should be outlawed should it?
It's not, last I heard............

To be honest your attitudes stinks as much as your fags.

Yurt2

In Japan you can smoke inside most restaurants/coffee shops but can't smoke out on the street. For instance, you can spark up in a McDonalds but not outside the door. Upsidedownland.

keith16

Some dude was in the playground smoking once. I was with my son (deffo not hanging around knacker drinking in the playground).

I asked him to kindly GTFO. He obliged.

That's my shit anecdote for the day.

AnonoBoy

Sclosages wrote: »

Like - cross the road? Perhaps smoking in public should be outlawed should it?
It's not, last I heard............

I was thinking more to be polite. But to be honest politeness seems to be an alien concept to everyone involved in this gripping anecdote.

Although on the plus side, it's becoming a lot clearer why she shoved you now!