New cars we don't see or are unlikely to see on irish roads due to the economy

goochy · 04-11-2014 11:06PM #1

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

mickdw · 04-11-2014 11:11PM

goochy wrote: »

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

There will be sales for S Class coupe R8 and RS model audis..The alfa and chrysler maybe not but more due to distributors than anything else.

visual · 05-11-2014 12:28AM

mickdw wrote: »

There will be sales for S Class coupe R8 and RS model audis..The alfa and chrysler maybe not but more due to distributors than anything else.

Chrysler distributor on nass road has fiat 500 hanging about the place was thinking if you bought a Jeep they throw in a 500 instead of spare wheel

jimgoose · 05-11-2014 12:31AM

Chrysler 300C?? Do you think we're all furkan plumbers, man?!?

colm_mcm · 05-11-2014 12:45AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Chrysler 300C?? Do you think we're all furkan plumbers, man?!?

Tis a baby Bentley like

Sobanek · 05-11-2014 04:21AM

Audi A8 W12
BMW M6 Gran Coupe
Skoda Superb 3.6 V6 DSG
BMW 550i
Opel Insignia OPC
BMW M235i
Mercedes-Benz S-Class Coupe S600

Sobanek · 05-11-2014 04:31AM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Tis a baby Bentley like

saw some tool with bentley badges on his 300c...

ironclaw · 05-11-2014 08:08AM

RS model was never popular in my opinion here. The RS4 was around for the good boom years and I only started seeing them after the recession. Don't think they had the poser prestige that the 'look at me' brigade craved. Anyone I knew that had one was usually someone after a wolf in sheep's clothing and a 'drivers' car.

I'd actually go as far to say you are more likely to see an R8 than an true RS4 / RS6 in the country. That said, there is an RS3 and RS5 knocking around.

Henry Ford III · 05-11-2014 10:20AM

Some more normal models now gone....RX8, Subaru Imprezza Turbo, Mitsubishi Evo.

Chimaera · 05-11-2014 11:35AM

Anything that's available in the UK could be imported here if the buyer is really interested in one even if the importer won't officially bring them in here. If there's money to be spent, dealers will do what they can to get it, especially if it's high end stuff.

H3llR4iser · 05-11-2014 12:53PM

goochy wrote: »

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

I don't think it has anything to do with the "economy", which I have to stress out it's still (and again) lightyears ahead these of most of the other industrialized countries - EU and UK included. Also, the person who can afford a Bentley is hardly ever gonna be affected by any so-called "recession".

The sad and brutal reality is that in general, Irish people are not much into cars but like to use them as a showoff tool for their wealth, social position and so on. So with a few notable forced exceptions (e.g. you can't get an 1.4 TDI Porsche...), most customers will simply go for the "maximum gain with minimum pain" solution; Why get an RS6 when a basic spec A6 looks just the same in the eyes of a passerby, if all you are interested in are the looks and a "151" registration?

Voodoomelon · 05-11-2014 02:00PM

You'd think CL500s were made in Roscommon between 2000 and 2007 with the amount of them for sale second hand now. There's gonna be a massive drop in the availability of original Irish cars like that over the last six years of slump.

RedorDead · 08-11-2014 03:12PM

goochy wrote: »

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

You see a few being sold during the year but nothing near like the numbers you used to. Saw this on twitter during the week.

https://twitter.com/_melaniemay/status/529972043035709440/photo/1

advertsfox · 08-11-2014 03:18PM

Any big petrol

All V6 cars, 4.2 V8 Audi's, OPC / GT / ST / R32 / AMG / M3 / M5 / M6 anything!

08-11-2014 03:26PM

goochy wrote: »

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

I live near rathkeale. I expect to see some of these cars on yellow plates given the coming festive season. They've started to come home in their droves already

lomb · 08-11-2014 08:51PM

Cl500s were the ultimate symbol of having made it. Lets face it most who could afford one would have grown up kids and no need for back doors. Also they would be too old for real sports cars. Also one of Mercs dearest cars so had the kudos.
The S Class Coupe Im sure will sell plenty here. Theres no shortage of big money in Ireland but its in not too many peoples hands.
All the land sold at boom prices the money didn't just disappear for every buyer there was a seller...
The likes of new Porsches aren't going to do so well one of my neigbours bought one new for 135k in the boom at early thirties, now he doesn't even own a car. The young got destroyed by the boom and are saddled with massive debts.

Hachiko · 08-11-2014 09:47PM

goochy wrote: »

one of the few things good things about celtic tiger was the many nice cars being bought . while I know things are improving in the motor trade there are still plenty of new high end cars you are unlikely to see or if you do it will be a rare sight . these vehicles would have been common enough if the celtic tiger was still roaring .

heres a few

new model audi r8

new audi rs models

alfa 4c and 8c

Bentley mulsanne

latest Chrysler 300c

new rhd ford mustang

Mercedes s class coupe

Lexus RC-F

dr.fuzzenstein · 09-11-2014 02:48AM

Ireland doesn't have a car culture as such.
People always have bought and will always buy anything bland, boring, 1.4 petrol (in future 1.0) or 1.9 diesel (in future 1.5), it has got to be cheap to run, family friendly, inoffensive, spec not as important as reg, long service interval (it needs it in this country), won't draw comment or attention, nothing too exotic and (this is a VERY big thing in this country) it has got to be the same as everyone else has. So if your car fulfills all the above criteria, but no one else drives it, you're a freak.
If you want a big engine, it's got to be a 4x4, the only exception to the 1.4/1.9 rule.
So anything exotic, racy, big-engined, fast, exciting, different, strange, unusual or rare is the reserve of eccentrics, dandies, freaks and other suspicious characters.
This is true for everything in this country, we are suspicious of anything too loud, exotic, exciting, tasty, colorful and above all different, in short anything that would make us stand out as a person and would draw attention.
If the average person here wore colorful clothes and drove an exotic car, they would feel incredibly self-conscious, imagining everyone looking at them, thinking they're talking about them behind their backs, saying "Jaysus, look at that eejit over there, what a gobsh*te!".
So we do bland, inoffensive, conformist, grey, anonymous, anything that won't get us noticed.
I don't know why that is, but, other than the outrageous rip off and gouging by the state for any nice car, that is the reason why very few people who could easily afford something really nice, actually do so and just buy another 520d or 1.9 TDI again.
I have nothing against those two cars,they simply have become the vehicle to buy to gain the silent approval of the masses who might otherwise tut and imperceptibly shake their heads, the worst fate any Irish person can befall.

Blazer · 09-11-2014 10:08AM

Saw a 131 reg Audi S8 yesterday in Limerick...
520hp, 15-25mph 4 litre V8 ...not bad at all, annual tax of 1200..

lomb · 09-11-2014 11:13AM

Blazer wrote: »

Saw a 131 reg Audi S8 yesterday in Limerick...
520hp, 15-25mph 4 litre V8 ...not bad at all, annual tax of 1200..

I doubt the first owner cares what the tax is it is after all a 130k car!
Not too many people would buy that new very unusual. Something like an S500 Merc saloon or Coupe would be more in keeping with that kind of cash. Shows you've made it and aren't scared of showing it. Of course you would need to every 3 years replace the car with new at a cost of another 80 grand or so as otherwise people will think you are a loser

Special Circumstances · 09-11-2014 12:24PM

Blazer wrote: »

Saw a 131 reg Audi S8 yesterday in Limerick...
520hp, 15-25mph 4 litre V8 ...not bad at all, annual tax of 1200..

I thought it was an S6? I was behind him on the motorway when he floored it!

Into The Blue · 09-11-2014 12:27PM

Sobanek wrote: »

saw some tool with bentley badges on his 300c...

Taxi in swords has that tat on his already tatty 300

Blazer · 09-11-2014 01:29PM

Special Circumstances wrote: »

I thought it was an S6? I was behind him on the motorway when he floored it!

he was right beside me as we were stopped on the motorway due to that crash so I was able to get a good look at it..definitely an S8

td2008 · 09-11-2014 07:31PM

anything over 1.1 litre - the selection is pitiful due to tax

09-11-2014 08:02PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have a car culture as such.
People always have bought and will always buy anything bland, boring, 1.4 petrol (in future 1.0) or 1.9 diesel (in future 1.5), it has got to be cheap to run, family friendly, inoffensive, spec not as important as reg, long service interval (it needs it in this country), won't draw comment or attention, nothing too exotic and (this is a VERY big thing in this country) it has got to be the same as everyone else has. So if your car fulfills all the above criteria, but no one else drives it, you're a freak.
If you want a big engine, it's got to be a 4x4, the only exception to the 1.4/1.9 rule.
So anything exotic, racy, big-engined, fast, exciting, different, strange, unusual or rare is the reserve of eccentrics, dandies, freaks and other suspicious characters.
This is true for everything in this country, we are suspicious of anything too loud, exotic, exciting, tasty, colorful and above all different, in short anything that would make us stand out as a person and would draw attention.
If the average person here wore colorful clothes and drove an exotic car, they would feel incredibly self-conscious, imagining everyone looking at them, thinking they're talking about them behind their backs, saying "Jaysus, look at that eejit over there, what a gobsh*te!".
So we do bland, inoffensive, conformist, grey, anonymous, anything that won't get us noticed.
I don't know why that is, but, other than the outrageous rip off and gouging by the state for any nice car, that is the reason why very few people who could easily afford something really nice, actually do so and just buy another 520d or 1.9 TDI again.
I have nothing against those two cars,they simply have become the vehicle to buy to gain the silent approval of the masses who might otherwise tut and imperceptibly shake their heads, the worst fate any Irish person can befall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMgnJDXd3k

Veloce · 09-11-2014 09:05PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have a car culture as such

dr.fuzzenstein · 09-11-2014 09:59PM

That may be, but Ireland is definitely a country that worships the bog standard family hatch or saloon.
You could spend a day in any Irish city and not see anything but a4, 520d at best and the rest would be an endless stream of Korean, French and Italian mid sized and small cars.
Spend a weekend in Stockholm, M6 common as muck over there and must have seen half a dozen R8. Those guys are nuts about cars.
Ireland doesn't have a car culture any more than it has a food culture.

Special Circumstances · 09-11-2014 10:03PM

Blazer wrote: »

he was right beside me as we were stopped on the motorway due to that crash so I was able to get a good look at it..definitely an S8

What was the story with that crash? Seems like a weekly occurrence now.
Some blast of rich exhaust from the audi as it picked up speed. Pity I didn't get to hear it much.

Veloce · 09-11-2014 10:20PM

Blazer wrote: »

he was right beside me as we were stopped on the motorway due to that crash so I was able to get a good look at it..definitely an S8

This it? Edit you said it was a 131. The one below is a 142

Special Circumstances · 09-11-2014 10:24PM

The one I saw was dark grey? Black? Not white anyway.

Veloce · 09-11-2014 10:25PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That may be, but Ireland is definitely a country that worships the bog standard family hatch or saloon.
You could spend a day in any Irish city and not see anything but a4, 520d at best and the rest would be an endless stream of Korean, French and Italian mid sized and small cars.
Spend a weekend in Stockholm, M6 common as muck over there and must have seen half a dozen R8. Those guys are nuts about cars.
Ireland doesn't have a car culture any more than it has a food culture.

I've been to London etc and Ireland doesn't compare. I agree with you on the Diesel brigade in Ireland. There is a very small culture here, you might not see it on a day to day basis but it's there. If your around Dublin get yourself to the Cars and Coffee in Cherrywood- you'll see what I mean!

New cars we don't see or are unlikely to see on irish roads due to the economy

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