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New cars we don't see or are unlikely to see on irish roads due to the economy
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Saw a 131 reg Audi S8 yesterday in Limerick...
520hp, 15-25mph 4 litre V8 ...not bad at all, annual tax of 1200..
I doubt the first owner cares what the tax is it is after all a 130k car!
Not too many people would buy that new very unusual. Something like an S500 Merc saloon or Coupe would be more in keeping with that kind of cash. Shows you've made it and aren't scared of showing it. Of course you would need to every 3 years replace the car with new at a cost of another 80 grand or so as otherwise people will think you are a loser
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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »Ireland doesn't have a car culture as such.
People always have bought and will always buy anything bland, boring, 1.4 petrol (in future 1.0) or 1.9 diesel (in future 1.5), it has got to be cheap to run, family friendly, inoffensive, spec not as important as reg, long service interval (it needs it in this country), won't draw comment or attention, nothing too exotic and (this is a VERY big thing in this country) it has got to be the same as everyone else has. So if your car fulfills all the above criteria, but no one else drives it, you're a freak.
If you want a big engine, it's got to be a 4x4, the only exception to the 1.4/1.9 rule.
So anything exotic, racy, big-engined, fast, exciting, different, strange, unusual or rare is the reserve of eccentrics, dandies, freaks and other suspicious characters.
This is true for everything in this country, we are suspicious of anything too loud, exotic, exciting, tasty, colorful and above all different, in short anything that would make us stand out as a person and would draw attention.
If the average person here wore colorful clothes and drove an exotic car, they would feel incredibly self-conscious, imagining everyone looking at them, thinking they're talking about them behind their backs, saying "Jaysus, look at that eejit over there, what a gobsh*te!".
So we do bland, inoffensive, conformist, grey, anonymous, anything that won't get us noticed.
I don't know why that is, but, other than the outrageous rip off and gouging by the state for any nice car, that is the reason why very few people who could easily afford something really nice, actually do so and just buy another 520d or 1.9 TDI again.
I have nothing against those two cars,they simply have become the vehicle to buy to gain the silent approval of the masses who might otherwise tut and imperceptibly shake their heads, the worst fate any Irish person can befall.
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That may be, but Ireland is definitely a country that worships the bog standard family hatch or saloon.
You could spend a day in any Irish city and not see anything but a4, 520d at best and the rest would be an endless stream of Korean, French and Italian mid sized and small cars.
Spend a weekend in Stockholm, M6 common as muck over there and must have seen half a dozen R8. Those guys are nuts about cars.
Ireland doesn't have a car culture any more than it has a food culture.
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dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »That may be, but Ireland is definitely a country that worships the bog standard family hatch or saloon.
You could spend a day in any Irish city and not see anything but a4, 520d at best and the rest would be an endless stream of Korean, French and Italian mid sized and small cars.
Spend a weekend in Stockholm, M6 common as muck over there and must have seen half a dozen R8. Those guys are nuts about cars.
Ireland doesn't have a car culture any more than it has a food culture.
I've been to London etc and Ireland doesn't compare. I agree with you on the Diesel brigade in Ireland. There is a very small culture here, you might not see it on a day to day basis but it's there. If your around Dublin get yourself to the Cars and Coffee in Cherrywood- you'll see what I mean!0 -
I've been to London etc and Ireland doesn't compare. I agree with you on the Diesel brigade in Ireland. There is a very small culture here, you might not see it on a day to day basis but it's there. If your around Dublin get yourself to the Cars and Coffee in Cherrywood- you'll see what I mean!
I go to cars and coffee in Limerick on a regular basis and that is where you meet all the wheel nuts.
My favorite so far was a 1979 German army truck with trailer, it was massive!
And the best thing about it? Classic tax!
I have checked out the VW festival and the Limerick festival of speed, all been good fun and greatly enjoyed by myself.
I just had to get the rant about everyone driving VW's and KIAs out of the way.
edit:
Found a pic!
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HandsomeDan wrote: »London is one of the richest cities in the world. Hardly a benchmark for what to normally expect.
We're alright for cars in this country. What you see is fairly similar to what you'd see on most of the the continent. To compare Dublin to Stockholm or London is just silly.
It is kind of similar, but in general compared to, for example, Germany, you can add 500cc to the average engine size and the higher spec, high end models are just not as prevalent here. Just spend an hour on the German Autobahn and you will see more 5 liter+ cars than in a year here.
If you see an A6 here, you can be 99% it's the 1.9 TDI. Anywhere else it would be a 2 liter+ petrol (the 2 liter being pointed at and people would say "how does it move with such a tiny engine?")
So, yes, in Ireland we have generally smaller cars with smaller engines, lesser spec and fewer high end models. As far as exotic cars is concerned, nobody would argue that they are prevalent in Ireland to the extend that they are in mainland Europe.
One thing is different here, I don't recall too many rallies going past my house, there have been several in my area and two right past my front door, so I'm not complaining in that respect.
It's just the way it is and I am glad of the car scene that is here.0 -
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Not supercar or anything remotely close to an Audi RS anything but you never see any of the newer Impreza STI mainly because you'd be paying the top rate of motor tax (2350).
Shame really as that flat four sound is unmistakable
An S4 costs less to tax than my 05 Saab 2.2TiD does now.
Bring it on Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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