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The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.*Mod instruction in OP*

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  • #482
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    Question for feminists: If the pay gap existed, what would it matter? Shouldn't a business owner be allowed to set the pay for a job?


  • #483
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Because men have all the rights and women just need equality in those rights?

    Not in my house it's the opposite I get the right to remain silent
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  • #484
    JasperGeorge.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭JasperGeorge.


    Yup threads dived ...over and out.


  • #485
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    JasperGeorge. wrote: »
    But it's largely in the non corporeal or imagined world rather than set down in laws .


    You will find that women have more than equal legal rights in Ireland and the USA [where all this nonsense comes from]

    Have a look here :

    http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/08/5-legal-rights-women-have-that-men-dont/

    For the first one :Women have the right to genital integrity [female circumcision illegal compared to male circumcision legal]. How is this logical ?


    You must know mothers have all the rights over children than fathers in this country. This is common all over the western world.


  • #486
    JasperGeorge.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭JasperGeorge.


    masculinist wrote: »
    You will find that women have more than equal legal rights in Ireland and the USA [where all this nonsense comes from]

    Have a look here :


    For the first one :Women have the right to genital integrity [female circumcision illegal compared to male circumcision legal]. How is this logical ?


    You must know mothers have all the rights over children than fathers in this country. This is common all over the western world.


    I said historically. I acknowledge the situation of father's right in contemporary times. But this is relatively new and has arisen not from an active move against men but is a by product from Divorce and new lifestyles. It goes unnoticed and it is sexist and should be changed. But it arose because of lack of forethought after a changing attitude towards the family and marriage and the changes in these in Irish society.


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  • #487
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Clandestine wrote: »
    Question for feminists: If the pay gap existed, what would it matter? Shouldn't a business owner be allowed to set the pay for a job?

    The pay gap doesnt exist. It is a myth and a lie. This can be proven.

    Check the links here under the heading ''wage gap''

    http://lady-of-anti-feminism.tumblr.com/post/78622128314/debunk-feminism

    No employer can get away with paying someone a different rate for the same job because of their gender. That is nonsense and would lead to a huge cash award from a tribunal.


  • #488
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    JasperGeorge. wrote: »
    I said historically. I acknowledge the situation of father's right in contemporary times. But this is relatively new and has arisen not from an active move against men but is a by product from Divorce and new lifestyles. It goes unnoticed and it is sexist and should be changed. But it arose because of lack of forethought after a changing attitude towards the family and marriage and the changes in these in Irish society.

    we should only care about what is happening right now. Misandry is real and it is real right now. The evidence is present and it exists in far more situations than just this single case.


  • #489
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    masculinist wrote: »
    No employer can get away with paying someone a different rate for the same job because of their gender
    They should, with it being their business and their rules... but that's a conversation for another day.


  • #490
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Clandestine wrote: »
    They should, with it being their business and their rules... but that's a conversation for another day.

    They should not if you are an egalitarian. Some strains of feminism believe men especially white should be paid less. How is that for sexism ? it is supremacy in a new form.


  • #491
    JasperGeorge.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭JasperGeorge.


    masculinist wrote: »
    we should only care about what is happening right now. Misandry is real and it is real right now. The evidence is present and it exists in far more situations than just this single case.

    Ok fair enough but misogyny is real and right now too. I say give equal time to both and nuts to all who put one over the other. What say you to that? Gender equality or nothing.


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  • #492
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    masculinist wrote: »

    For the first one :Women have the right to genital integrity [female circumcision illegal compared to male circumcision legal]. How is this logical ?


    You must know mothers have all the rights over children than fathers in this country. This is common all over the western world.

    As this is a thread about Boards, could you show me a single thread where a female poster has promoted male circumcision or expressed a view that males have more rights than females where it comes to child custody?


  • #493
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    dark crystal wrote: »
    As this is a thread about Boards, could you show me a single thread where a female poster has promoted male circumcision

    One could argue that every thread which focuses solely on FGM as something to be stamped out, tacitly implies that male genital integrity doesn't matter as much.


  • #494
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    masculinist wrote: »
    They should not if you are an egalitarian. Some strains of feminism believe men especially white should be paid less. How is that for sexism ? it is supremacy in a new form.
    This is not an egalitarian argument, its a property rights argument. If a group of radical feminists want to form a business and not hire men, good luck to them. I just won't shop with them.

    http://mises.org/document/6078/The-Case-for-Discrimination
    Its free, and worth a look.


  • #495
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    JasperGeorge. wrote: »
    Ok fair enough but misogyny is real and right now too. I say give equal time to both and nuts to all who put one over the other. What say you to that? Gender equality or nothing.

    I am an egalitarian but I find feminists are opposing this. Have you seen the feminist bomb threats and pulled fire alarms in Toronto doing anything to stop men meeting to discuss their own issues ?

    This is extremely disturbing




    Check this Feminist out




    This is all complete nonsense. It is aggressive , abusive, hateful and violent.


  • #496
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    One could argue that every thread which focuses solely on FGM as something to be stamped out, tacitly implies that male genital integrity doesn't matter as much.

    Haven't seen many of those threads about these parts. Still, would be great if anyone could direct us to any post in which male circumcision has been lauded by female posters.


  • #497
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Haven't seen many of those threads about these parts.

    There have been plenty.
    Still, would be great if anyone could direct us to any post in which male circumcision has been lauded by female posters.

    It doesn't have to have been. All that has to happen is for someone to condemn genital mutilation, but only when it happens to girls. That, IMO, is automatically discrimination.


  • #498
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Haven't seen many of those threads about these parts. Still, would be great if anyone could direct us to any post in which male circumcision has been lauded by female posters.

    Feminism perpetuates the lie that it is about equality for both sexes yet never stands up for mens rights [or oppose the seriously whackjob feminists] then tries to stamp out men who wish to campaign for their own rights for themselves e.g circumcision, male suicides, rights to access and custody of their children etc. How is that fair ? You can see YouTube links and other links provided above. The very fact that male circumcision is legal yet FGM is not is a real and tangible example of institutionalized misandry.


  • #499
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    There have been plenty.

    Just one'll do.
    It doesn't have to have been. All that has to happen is for someone to condemn genital mutilation, but only when it happens to girls. That, IMO, is automatically discrimination.

    Again, let's see the evidence that boards feminists have said anywhere that male circumcision is the way to go.


  • #500
    beks101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Sand wrote: »
    you are not a special or unique snowflake.

    Actually this is quite a common one too.
    'Oh woe is me....did someone just use the phrase 'invalidate my feelings'?...are we on Oprah....blah blah blah'

    So expecting to be entitled to express an opinion which will not be faced with a barrage of assumptions, aggressiveness, intimidation, personal attacks, undermining and belittling and sexism about 'Princess Syndrome', 'will someone please think about the men'...is unreasonable because 'that's just the internet'?

    People disagree with me every day of the week and it leads to all kinds of insightful and enlightening discussions - one of the main reasons I'm on boards in the first place. I like being challenged on my views and I like a heated debate.

    Being told that my feelings about something are bullsh1t or my experience with a social issue is 'downright wrong' because men deal with stuff too and who am I to expect special treatment, or because I've simply misread the intention, or 'some people are assholes, get over it'. And picking apart my opinions down to the word and going to town on the pedantics of a sentence or a semi-colon to make the point that I AM WRONG because my experience is not your own...and doing this stuff persistently, relentlessly, maybe even re-regging to do it again to get the full impact...NO. THAT'S NOT OK.

    Is it right that many women won't engage with this forum, this thread or even this website because of these over-reactions? Is it right that that fear of typing something less than reasonable (out of anger perhaps) and then receiving a backlash disproportionate to the actual intellectual crime means that some women will stay away, out of threads about issues that interest them, away from a discourse that greets them with an undertone of hostility from the get-go?


  • #501
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    dark crystal wrote: »


    Again, let's see the evidence that boards feminists have said anywhere that male circumcision is the way to go.

    I see what you did there. You are trying to narrow the field of discussion to just boards in the hope that some sort of obnoxious comment has not slipped by the mods. You should know very well that if something is not relevant outside of the rarefied boards universe i.e in the real world then it is not relevant for discussion at all


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  • #502
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    masculinist wrote: »
    Feminism perpetuates the lie that it is about equality for both sexes yet never stands up for mens rights [or oppose the seriously whackjob feminists] then tries to stamp out men who wish to campaign for their own rights for themselves e.g circumcision, male suicides, rights to access and custody of their children etc. How is that fair ?

    Feminsm. There, the clue is in the title. Feminism promotes women's rights.

    Masulinism. There, the clue is in your username. Masulinism promotes men's rights.

    Egaliatrian. There, the clue is in the title. One who promotes equality.

    This is basic stuff.

    You can see YouTube links and other links provided above. The very fact that male circumcision is legal yet FGM is not is a real and tangible example of institutionalized misandry.

    We are discussing Boards, no? How many 'whackjob' feminists post the sort of views you're opining about?


  • #503
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    beks101 wrote: »
    Is it right that many women won't engage with this forum, this thread or even this website because of these over-reactions?

    I posted a question about a bicycle in another section of boards and was interrogated for hours but you would be searching a long time for any male tears. Women who think on the one hand that they are equal to men yet on the other hand expect special treatment and privileges just because they are female need to get over themselves. Feminists destroyed concepts of being ladylike and then turned around and wonder what happened to men and what happened to chivalry. Its a catch 22 for them but its a problem of their own making. We still hold the door open but we hold it open for everyone regardless of who they are. Its a brave new world.
    I disagree that any overreactions happen because of gender. If I am genderblind anywhere when someone comments it is on boards where its all words and letters on a screen , nothing else.


  • #504
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Feminsm. There, the clue is in the title. Feminism promotes women's rights.

    Thankyou. That is honesty. It is not egalitarianism in theory or in practice but now women have the same or more rights than men and feminism needs to justify its existence so you have a lot of stupid man hating campaigns. Just look to the USA to see exactly what we should not want visiting our shores. I pity men of college age in the USA where their right to due process has been denied on college campuses.


  • #505
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,304 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    masculinist wrote: »
    I am an egalitarian but I find feminists are opposing this. Have you seen the feminist bomb threats and pulled fire alarms in Toronto doing anything to stop men meeting to discuss their own issues ?

    This is extremely disturbing

    1.

    Check this Feminist out

    2.

    This is all complete nonsense. It is aggressive , abusive, hateful and violent.

    Oh god, they should be shot. The first video was stressful enough, could.not bear to listen to the dragon in the second. Angry, angry fools.


  • #506
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    masculinist wrote: »
    Thankyou. That is honesty. It is not egalitarianism in theory or in practice but now women have the same or more rights than men and feminism needs to justify its existence so you have a lot of stupid man hating campaigns. Just look to the USA to see exactly what we should not want visiting our shores. I pity men of college age in the USA where their right to due process has been denied on college campuses.

    I don't have any man hating campaigns at all. I think you may be a tad confused.

    As per this thread, any examples of female posters who espouse the downfall of men? Any at all?


  • #507
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Oh god, they should be shot. The first video was stressful enough, could.not bear to listen to the dragon in the second. Angry, angry fools.

    This is what men in Ireland have to look forward to if people do not embrace egalitarianism instead of feminism. Sweden is held up as an example for all but most of the men there are rejecting marriage or marrying foreign women. The male backlash is arriving.

    Have a read of this guys Facebook posts:

    https://www.facebook.com/marshall.rottman/posts/762545963808175

    It will open your eyes. He stays on top of current affairs. To start you off he writes : ''Swedish feminist extremist group. I'm certain the video is faked, in so much that they didn't actually kill anyone - but that's not the point. They advocate for the extermination of men. Literally, not a joke, not satire, they advocate for the extermination of men.'' and he proves it. Women are rejecting this brand of male hating feminism. Egalitarianism is the future.


  • #508
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Oh god, they should be shot. The first video was stressful enough, could.not bear to listen to the dragon in the second. Angry, angry fools.

    Ah, here we go.

    Now, any examples of females expressing the same sentiments about chauvinistic men on Boards?


  • #509
    JasperGeorge.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭JasperGeorge.


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    Oh god, they should be shot. The first video was stressful enough, could.not bear to listen to the dragon in the second. Angry, angry fools.

    Do you not think you have crossed a line here and defeated your own argument?

    Your attitude and others here posting is hardly cordial. This is a debate but it's an informal internet forum. Yes you have the right to be rude but you don't have to.


  • #510
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Ah, here we go.

    Now, any examples of females expressing the same sentiments about chauvinistic men on Boards?

    On boards how do you prove someone is male or female ? I prefer to comment about the real world because thats where relevant discussion worthy events come from.


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  • #511
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    JasperGeorge. wrote: »
    Do you not think you have crossed a line here and defeated your own argument?

    Your attitude and others here posting is hardly cordial. This is a debate but it's an informal internet forum. Yes you have the right to be rude but you don't have to.

    are you invalidating somebodys legitimate feelings of horror there buddy ?


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