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chairty house callers.

  • 07-11-2014 01:02AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭


    This evening there where callers saying they work for a charity. I won't name it the charity they said they worked for. They where looking for money to bags off for Ebola for those that had died.

    Trying to get direct debit details etc. I said to they I could do it online in my own time but one of them said he had the internet and could set up the details.he kept at me to set a direct debit account had to say no.

    One thing that put me off was the BMW 2014 reg they were in


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    cena wrote: »
    This evening there where callers saying they work for a charity won't name it. They where looking for money to bags off for Ebola for those that had died.

    Trying to get direct debit details etc. I said to they I could do it online in my own time but one of them said he had the internet and could set up the details.he kept at me to set a direct debit account had to say no.

    One thing that put me off was the BMW 2014 reg.

    You got scammed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    cena wrote: »
    This evening there where callers saying they work for a charity won't name it. They where looking for money to bags off for Ebola for those that had died.

    Trying to get direct debit details etc. I said to they I could do it online in my own time but one of them said he had the internet and could set up the details.he kept at me to set a direct debit account had to say no.

    One thing that put me off was the BMW 2014 reg.

    Well the fact they wouldn't tell you who they were working on behalf of is a massive clue. I would have shut the door in their face at that point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭cena


    DarkJager wrote: »
    You got scammed.

    I knew it was. Would never give details out like that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Was it a 141 or 142 bmw op?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Was it a 141 or 142 bmw op?

    141


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Was it a 141 or 142 bmw op?

    Doesn't matter what the number is, BMW drivers are reverse hedgehogs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Doesn't matter what the number is, BMW drivers are reverse hedgehogs

    k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,778 ✭✭✭goz83


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Well the fact they wouldn't tell you who they were working on behalf of is a massive clue. I would have shut the door in their face at that point.

    That is not a fact. The OP won't name the charity, not the charity callers.
    cena wrote: »
    I knew it was. Would never give details out like that

    You suspected it was, but it likely wasn't. Most door to door charities set up direct debits and the callers are not allowed take cash. I suspect it was a well known charity that called to you with one of their latest "appeals" to save Africa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    k

    U ok hun? Xx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭cena


    goz83 wrote: »
    That is not a fact. The OP won't name the charity, not the charity callers.



    You suspected it was, but it likely wasn't. Most door to door charities set up direct debits and the callers are not allowed take cash. I suspect it was a well known charity that called to you with one of their latest "appeals" to save Africa.
    They where around here about 2 months ago same chairty


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭Chunners


    cena wrote: »
    They where looking for money to bags off for Ebola for those that had died.

    Why were they looking for money for dead people? it's not like it will do them any good now :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,396 ✭✭✭✭cena


    To send bags for Ebola. I presume body bags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Those hawkers call here every so often but I just tell them I only give to local charities like the St Vincent de Paul and local hospice care team in the local hospital. I tell them to fook off to wherever the disaster they are collecting for is because I believe in charity beginning at home!

    They are usually very pushy and often get smart like telling you that in the time they have been talking to you x number if babies have died horribly in some god forsaken place, this is usually when the door closes slowly in their face as I smile at them.

    They are only doing a "JOB" and get paid quite well for getting their company access to your bank account


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Chunners wrote: »
    Why were they looking for money for dead people? it's not like it will do them any good now :confused:

    A burial is expensive, could be money for that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 424 ✭✭Chunners


    A burial is expensive, could be money for that.

    I'd assume the state would take care of that to avoid further infection


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭cerastes


    goz83 wrote: »
    That is not a fact. The OP won't name the charity, not the charity callers.

    You suspected it was, but it likely wasn't. Most door to door charities set up direct debits and the callers are not allowed take cash. I suspect it was a well known charity that called to you with one of their latest "appeals" to save Africa.

    Part of them taking details is, I believe, easier for a person setting this up to forget about it and it can be difficult to get these things shut down too, with banks requiring the customer to do the legwork of contacting the organisation to shut things down from their end.
    Someone signing up really relies on how reputable the charity are or how quickly they would process the transaction??
    Personally, I wouldnt give details like that at the door and Im suprised anyone hands over details like that at all for a charity.
    I did sign up with a utility provider like this when I was considering changing, but I rang the service provider as the guy at the door was from a company hired to do that work, I got the number myself and directly called them, they could give me his details, some kind of employee number so I knew it was legit, in the end it didnt work out to be worth the savings claimed.
    To make it worse, some people do sign up for charities this way, Ive seen their details and if I was intent I might have been able to recover some details, so if they are that careless about my neighbours details they can take a jump if they think they are getting mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Our taxes fund 600m of foreign aid.

    No need to give anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭cerastes


    Geuze wrote: »
    Our taxes fund 600m of foreign aid.

    No need to give anymore.

    where do you find that information? and who decides, Id like to have alook at whos getting what, if Im not happy I'll make my opinion known to my local representative, Im sure they will nod and promptly ignore me.
    But if were sending financial aid or supplies to a country that seems to have funds for military hardware upgrades (no matter how much they need it based on their neighbouring disputes), then I think we shouldnt give aid to those countries.

    As much as I believe they might not actually be spending our charity iself on military equipment, just if they are arming/involved in conflict/concerns of humanitarian nature, then should we be funding them?

    If charities here are unaccountable, what makes us think countries will be? maybe because our politicians want us to lookthemselves to look good/a certain way for giving aid, fcuk it, spread it around here, the problems those needing aid will no doubt be mostly much worse than those experienced here, but we can never really hope to change there, at least we might alleviate suffering here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Got caught by them one Friday evening because I accidentally thought it was the Dominos pizzas we ordered, I never answer the door unless I'm expecting someone. It was for donating for refugee camps but I declined, she wanted my credit card details which I wasn't having any of and I was just coming up with excuse to get rid of her because I was being too nice.

    Just at that moment, the pizza guy showed up and the chugger states in an incredibly snide attitude "Oh well! If you can afford those then why can't you afford to help people who need your help!?!"

    She touched a nerve there, considering I do help with some local charities and I had a long week at work which resulted in my friendly mask falling off and promptly telling her to fúck off, that I didn't have to explain jack-shít to her about what me and the GF do with our earnings.

    "Enjoy your........pizzas!!" she said in that kind of face that would turn milk sour as she walked off my driveway.

    Grrr, that happened 2 years ago and it's made me angry thinking about it again.......................a pizza would calm me down, though........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭cerastes


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Got caught by them one Friday evening because I accidentally thought it was the Dominos pizzas we ordered, I never answer the door unless I'm expecting someone. It was for donating for refugee camps but I declined, she wanted my credit card details which I wasn't having any of and I was just coming up with excuse to get rid of her because I was being too nice.

    Just at that moment, the pizza guy showed up and the chugger states in an incredibly snide attitude "Oh well! If you can afford those then why can't you afford to help people who need your help!?!"

    She touched a nerve there, considering I do help with some local charities and I had a long week at work which resulted in my friendly mask falling off and promptly telling her to fúck off, that I didn't have to explain jack-shít to her about what me and the GF do with our earnings.

    "Enjoy your........pizzas!!" she said in that kind of face that would turn milk sour as she walked off my driveway.

    Grrr, that happened 2 years ago and it's made me angry thinking about it again.......................a pizza would calm me down, though........

    was she hot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    I'd never give money to anyone who called to the door, other than the takeout delivery guy. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    Can't these people be reported to the charity in question? I've a vague recollection of being harangued by a chugger and reporting them to the charity - I can't remember the outcome but there was some satisfaction in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25


    cena wrote: »
    This evening there where callers saying they work for a charity. I won't name it the charity they said they worked for. They where looking for money to bags off for Ebola for those that had died.

    Trying to get direct debit details etc. I said to they I could do it online in my own time but one of them said he had the internet and could set up the details.he kept at me to set a direct debit account had to say no.

    One thing that put me off was the BMW 2014 reg they were in

    A lot of those guys work on commission that's why he wanted to do it for you he will get extra pay I volunteer for a well known irish/international charity and people called to my door to collect money for them bear in mind I am wearing a jumper with the charity logo on and this guy still tryd his best to get me to sign up for a direct debit even tho I told him I was a member and that if I want to do that il do it myself (even showed him a membership card and had the jumper on) he STILL wanted me to sign up cheeky fcuk.... Got rid of him rang our head office they where legit but a outsourced company for fundraising so would be on commission for more direct debits they set up I logged a complaint against him he was bit of a bully tbh was not impressed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭BobMc


    I hate any sort of cold callers, I'm usually the one sent to the door as the wife is a bit soft, I'm straight with them all be it charity, airtricity etc etc, a straight no nonsense NO THANK YOU! and start closing the door, dont even let them start their speil, Wife is always saying that was a bit rude, well if they dont like it dont knock on MY DOOR!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Treat every unwanted knock at the door like it's the TV licence inspector. Never have an issue with charity callers

    Simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭grundie


    We have a sign in the window next to the door that says "No callers without prior appointment". Salesmen generally respect it, charity callers don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    emptying the chamber pot from the upstairs window usually does the trick with these licensed beggars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    cerastes wrote: »
    where do you find that information? and who decides, Id like to have alook at whos getting what, if Im not happy I'll make my opinion known to my local representative, Im sure they will nod and promptly ignore me.
    But if were sending financial aid or supplies to a country that seems to have funds for military hardware upgrades (no matter how much they need it based on their neighbouring disputes), then I think we shouldnt give aid to those countries.

    As much as I believe they might not actually be spending our charity iself on military equipment, just if they are arming/involved in conflict/concerns of humanitarian nature, then should we be funding them?

    If charities here are unaccountable, what makes us think countries will be? maybe because our politicians want us to lookthemselves to look good/a certain way for giving aid, fcuk it, spread it around here, the problems those needing aid will no doubt be mostly much worse than those experienced here, but we can never really hope to change there, at least we might alleviate suffering here.


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    Irish Aid funds are spent using a mix of funding approaches to support development programmes in our partner countries, the work of international organisations such as the UN or World Bank, and the work of Irish, national and international non governmental organisations. Irish Aid funding is also used to support emergency and humanitarian crises.

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