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Why do North Americans laugh at the famine so much?

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    #62
    Generic Dreadhead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    snotboogie wrote: »
    Substitute any other ethnicity and their negative stereotypes into that joke and it becomes an absolute no no.

    Well I for one can take a joke.

    And as we all know, I speak for the entirety of the Irish people past and present.

    Continue on with your Irish jokes Americans

    It's doing wonders for our tourism don't ya know


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    #63
    Earl Turner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Earl Turner


    Every group and race gets mocked on the internet, thankfully not everywhere is a pc zone.

    Also, that joke is actually pretty funny.


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    #64
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    Now, name a people who don't have anything like that anywhere in their past.

    Not many places have had stuff that had such a huge impact on their country but would you tell them to shut up about it?


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    #65
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Scannal wrote: »
    It led to the death and immagration of millions which deprived this country of many great people. Many things mighten't have happened such as increased power in the church, Northern Ireland etc. It completely changed the course of this country and we're still suffering the consequences of it.

    So could you tell me of your own loss?


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    #66
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Scannal wrote: »
    Not many places have had stuff that had such a huge impact on their country but would you tell them to shut up about it?

    After 170 years, and when I don't actually see anyone joking about it, definitely.


    Also, plenty of places have had various sorts of catastrophes that would have a similar impact, particularly if you are going back that long or further.


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    #67
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    So could you tell me of your own loss?

    Everyone lost. The country wouldn't have gone through the awfulness it has without it, we still suffer from it.


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    #68
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    After 170 years, and when I don't actually see anyone joking about it, definitely.


    Also, plenty of places have had various sorts of catastrophes that would have a similar impact, particularly if you are going back that long or further.

    Name countries that had their population halved? People still go on about it because there's still denial over it.


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    #69
    Crann na Beatha
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    #70
    Frank Lee Midere
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    bodice ripper wrote: »
    Now, name a people who don't have anything like that anywhere in their past.

    Britain.


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    Crann na Beatha
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    #72
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    Britain.


    Yeah, there has never been wholesale slaughter of large sections of the population over there, that's for sure. And they certainly were never invaded and colonised by anyone from Europe. And no civil wars. And no mass conscription of young men. None of that sort of thing.


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    #73
    Fratton Fred
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    Phoenix wrote: »
    Family had to emigrate on a personal level, the far reaching implications to Ireland, the culture,political outlook and demographics are still felt today.

    But tell me of your own personal loss? Or your family's.


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    #74
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    Yeah, there has never been wholesale slaughter of large sections of the population over there, that's for sure. And they certainly were never invaded and colonised by anyone from Europe. And no civil wars. And no mass conscription of young men. None of that sort of thing.

    They never lost half their population in the space of a few years anyway, although they did cause that sort of suffering on many others.


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    #75
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    But tell me of your own personal loss? Or your family's.

    He just said.


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    #76
    The Backwards Man
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    Scannal wrote: »
    They never lost half their population in the space of a few years anyway, although they did cause that sort of suffering on many others.
    Of course the Irish would never do such a thing themselves.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish-American_Medal_of_Honor_recipients#Indian_Wars

    A lot of these would have emigrated as a result of the famine, no?


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    #77
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Scannal wrote: »
    He just said.

    No he didn't, he told me of a perceived loss. For all we know his relatives could have been one of the farmers who profiteered from the famine and employed their own militia to escort their crops to market.


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    #78
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Of course the Irish would never do such a thing themselves.



    A lot of these would have emigrated as a result of the famine, no?

    There were nazi jews, what's your point?


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    #79
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    No he didn't, he told me of a perceived loss. For all we know his relatives could have been one of the farmers who profiteered from the famine and employed their own militia to escort their crops to market.

    Yes or they might have been some of the millions that had to emigrate because of British policy to starve the native Irish to death.


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    #80
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Scannal wrote: »
    They never lost half their population in the space of a few years anyway, although they did cause that sort of suffering on many others.

    Sure they did. Black Death for a start.


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    #81
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Scannal wrote: »
    There were nazi jews, what's your point?

    The point is if Britons are responsible for the famine, then you are responsible for what harm Irish people have caused.


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    #82
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Scannal wrote: »
    Yes or they might have been some of the millions that had to emigrate because of British policy to starve the native Irish to death.

    It never takes too long.

    Why are some people so determined to be the most oppressed people ever?


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    #83
    Crann na Beatha
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    #84
    bodice ripper
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    It never takes too long.

    Why are some people so determined to be the most oppressed people ever?

    The temptation to make a chip on the shoulder joke is unreal.


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    #85
    Tar.Aldarion
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    americans don't understand why we wouldn't have eaten anything else, so it sounds silly, not everybody is up on our history and that we were exporting food at the same time


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    #86
    Fratton Fred
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    Phoenix wrote: »
    There is no perceived loss Fred,the reasoning is clear as day why it happened, including a letter we have in the family that paints quite that reasoning quite succinctly.

    So, again, what is your loss?

    You have a letter written to a distant relative and that is somehow comparable to a holocaust survivor who still carries their tattoo?


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    #87
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Phoenix wrote: »
    Now you are showing your ignorance, this event was catastrophic toward the Irish language and caused wholesale destruction of communities. You wouldn't dare say to holocaust victims or their families to get over it now would you?
    If that hadn't occurred, you would not exist. Have a think about that for a second while you continue on with your pretentious offendedness. You lost nothing in the famine; in fact you gained everything.

    Humour = tragedy + time.

    In 200 years time, yes people will be making jokes about the holocaust. As far as I'm concerned once the people who've experience it first-hand and their children are buried, people need to get the fnck over it.


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    #88
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Here, have a scorecard for the Suffering Olympics

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll


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    #89
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    Sure they did. Black Death for a start.

    They didn't lose half their population and it wasn't purposely done.


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    #90
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    The point is if Britons are responsible for the famine, then you are responsible for what harm Irish people have caused.

    Who said all Britons are responsible for the famine?


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    #91
    Scannal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Scannal


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    It never takes too long.

    Why are some people so determined to be the most oppressed people ever?

    You're the only oone who's mentioned the most oppressed people ever, I was just pointing out facts.


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