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Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Viewers are gas.

    Patrick wondering wistfully "who's trying to kill me" whilst in a feud with Nidge and having survived two assassination attempts by Nidge's crew would have been utterly ridiculous.

    If he said "who's trying to kill me?" people would be complaining about Travellers being portrayed as stupid.

    I think we all agree that he knew who was trying to kill him. But IMO any man or group of men (travellers) surely could have gotten some information on the hit.

    Patrick and his crew had time to cool down and think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Hitchens wrote: »
    no, never fired any gun...................but if he caught Patrick with one (which has a sledgehammer effect?) why didn't Patrick go down - like he did during the first attempt on his life?

    I haven't watched it again but from what I remember Patrick never even slowed down

    only asking

    The shot doubled Patrick over but then he starts running at him and the lad backs away panicking and firing more, then he hits Brandon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Blay wrote: »
    The shot doubled Patrick over but then he starts running at him and the lad backs away panicking and firing more, then he hits Brandon.
    ok, coola boola :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    He must have known that he be attacked at some point with Nidge/Fran issue hanging over his head. I was not expecting what happened to Paulie though but Siobhan had little choice once he found out she knew he was at the zoo.

    It be intersting to see the fall out after Paulie...and how the Scottish lad be mixed up in everything?


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another lad whacked in Dublin last night i see. Some lad was probably so pumped up after watching a great episode L/H that it motivated the lard out of him to go out and pump someone full of lead


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Blay wrote: »
    He did question him but he knew who had sent him anyway...the same person who had tried to kill him twice before.
    .

    What pertinent questions did he ask him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    walshb wrote: »
    What pertinent questions did he ask him?

    The guy told him straight out that he did it because he owed drug money.

    I mean what do you want..honestly now..Nidge has tried to kill the guy two times previous to this and now this is the third time. Nobody else in the criminal world seems to have an issue with Patrick from what we've seen.

    If Patrick had asked 'Who sent ya?', people would have been moaning about it been lazy writing or some crap and 'How could Patrick not know who was after him when Nidge tried to kill him twice before?'

    I mean ffs..the show can't win no matter what it does..the whingers are never happy:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    Just a warning to avoid the Irish Mirror website. Major spoiler based on amateur behind the scenes pictures.

    Man spoiler that **** I haven't been onto the mirror website today yet... Way to spolier that spoiler..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Blay wrote: »
    The guy told him straight out that he did it because he owed drug money.

    Why did you do it? Drug money. WTF is that? What use at all is that?

    Simple: Make it seem real. "You're gona' tell me everything you ******* know and then I'll decide whether you live or die"

    Now, maybe he would have gleaned very little, but at least he would have asked.

    Get over the whole "who sent ya." We know this. But to not ask anything of the hit at all is bonkers. Though, I guess these criminals can be smart and dumb. Patrick is one of the dumb ones.

    And it's nothing to do with whingeing. It's just discussing a programme.

    While I am at it. Paulie for me was the weakest character of all. Is Big balls really that hard up that he has a junkie watching his business? A junkie who falls in love with another junkie who spreads her legs within 5 minutes of knowing him. Maybe Patrick isn't the only dummy. Let's add in Deano too. He who answers the door to pizza men even though he didn't order pizza.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,497 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    walshb wrote: »
    Why did you do it? Drug money. WTF is that? What use at all is that?

    Simple: Make it seem real. "You're gona' tell me everything you ******* know and then I'll decide whether you live or die"

    Now, maybe he would have gleaned very little, but at least he would have asked.

    Get over the whole "who sent ya." We know this. But to not ask anything of the hit at all is bonkers. Though, I guess these criminals can be smart and dumb. Patrick is one of the dumb ones.

    What the fcuk could the guy possibly tell him though? :pac:

    There's no info that guy could give him that is of any benefit to Patrick..zero. :pac: He's told Patrick that it was only drug money that got him into that position so he's not going to have any info.

    You're making it seem like this lad has also the inside track on Nidge and how he could be killed but Patrick let it all slide though his fingers. He's some fcuking ex junkie that Aido dragged out of the gutter to do a job for them..he's disposable to Nidge and he's disposable to Patrick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Blay wrote: »
    What the fcuk could the guy possibly tell him though? :pac:

    There's no info that guy could give him that is of any benefit to Patrick..zero. :pac:

    You're making it seem like this lad has also the inside info on Nidge and how he could be killed but Patrick let it all slide though his fingers. He's some fcuking ex junkie that Aido dragged out of the gutter to do a job for them..he's disposable to Nidge and he's disposable to Patrick.

    But how can Patrick know that the guy has no information? You're telling me that a shooter who is sent to kill someone and then fails has ZERO information about what he was sent to do? The gun, the accomplice, the car, the place where he was approached, the time frame, the getaway plan, phone numbers, places where they met to discuss the hit etc etc. I can't believe I am actually having to explain this.

    Patrick wasn't to know what this lad knew or did not know. Any normal man who has just avoided death, and who is in a running and deadly feud with another gang surely would try and get something from the man who pulled the trigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,811 ✭✭✭el diablo


    All Dubs are wannabe Brits at heart. Liverpool is their Mecca. English soaps and football clubs. England is great. But "down da country" - fuk dat.

    :rolleyes:
    Another lad whacked in Dublin last night i see. Some lad was probably so pumped up after watching a great episode L/H that it motivated the lard out of him to go out and pump someone full of lead

    :rolleyes:

    Orange pilled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Also don't get why the junkie was hired in the first place...

    According to Paulie he was going to hunt him down for sport....but who needs coherence right?


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    el diablo wrote: »
    :rolleyes:



    :rolleyes:


    Tongue in cheek el diablo. Cool the jets. Admittedly i should have indicated it more with a :pac: at the end of my sentence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    walshb wrote: »
    But how can Patrick know that the guy has no information? You're telling me that a shooter who is sent to kill someone and then fails has ZERO information about what he was sent to do? The gun, the accomplice, the car, the place where he was approached, the time frame, the getaway plan, phone numbers, places where they met to discuss the hit etc etc. I can't believe I am actually having to explain this.

    Patrick wasn't to know what this lade knew or did not know. Any normal man who has just avoided death, and who is in a running and deadly feud with another gang surely would try and get something from the man who pulled the trigger.

    Maybe he knew better than to trust any information from a drug addict. He was willing to say just about anything to get out of it without much coercion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Maybe he knew better than to trust any information from a drug addict. He was willing to say just about anything to get out of it without much coercion
    I think the point that Walshb is making is he wouldn't forego interrogating him just because he might lie


    also he was clean at the time - as far as we the viewers know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    walshb wrote: »
    But how can Patrick know that the guy has no information? You're telling me that a shooter who is sent to kill someone and then fails has ZERO information about what he was sent to do? The gun, the accomplice, the car, the place where he was approached, the time frame, the getaway plan, phone numbers, places where they met to discuss the hit etc etc. I can't believe I am actually having to explain this.

    Patrick wasn't to know what this lade knew or did not know. Any normal man who has just avoided death, and who is in a running and deadly feud with another gang surely would try and get something from the man who pulled the trigger.

    I don't think patrick needed any info from the would-be hitman though. He has hi-tech surveillance on nidge as it is, nidge isn't a mystery to him at all. Add to that he was fu<king angry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    I don't think patrick needed any info from the would-be hitman though. He has hi-tech surveillance on nidge as it is, nidge isn't a mystery to him at all. Add to that he was fu<king angry.
    eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Hitchens wrote: »
    I think the point that Walshb is making is he wouldn't forego interrogating him just because he might lie


    also he was clean at the time - as far as we the viewers know

    Thank you. All the ifs and buts I am hearing are completely irrelevant. Patrick and his crew (via the script writers) should have at least made out that they interrogated him. Like I said, maybe they get nothing, but the complete no go is farcical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Hitchens wrote: »
    eh?

    have you watched previous episodes of this season? He has a tracker on nidge.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,467 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I'd be worried if I was Elmo - previously accused of being a rat (and rightly deemed not to be) and then being one of three involved in the failed Zoo meeting, which had to be abandoned following accusations of there being a rat by one of the other participants (now dead).
    I'd say Nidge is a 'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...' kind of guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,714 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I'd say Elmo is well down the list of worries for Nidge. That rat thing (for Elmo) is very much water under the bridge IMHO.

    Of all the "what is going to happen"s. I think Siobhan future is the one that really has me most excited.

    Fran and Noelie will be fairly black and white- straight forward. Patrick and Nidge are mainly all about the out and out fued between the pair.But Siobhan, being involved with Paulie has placed her smack bang in the middle of so many story lines. How will the death of Paulie play out? The cops and Siobhan, when will it come to a head? And Tommy.....surely Tommy hasn't flatlined for a reason. When he awakes it will be another thing for Siobhan to work with as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Its a pity that Love/hate dont get the money to make more episodes per season. Id love to see how they would develop the Port manager (Paul Ronan - Saoirse's father). I always liked the similar character Frank Subotka in the Wire.

    This is just a random idea that's been rattling around in my head for a while, but depending on how successful this season is do ye think there'd be much response to some kind of crowd funding campaign for Love/Hate to increase the number of episodes?

    Problem is though I can imagine if a significant amount of money was raised, instead of using it to extend the run RTE would probably say "Sure you're sorted for X number of episodes now, so we can slash your funding and still make 6" :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭hjkl


    Is this going to be the last season, as was reported early this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    One more series of 6 episodes in early new year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    One more series of 6 episodes in early new year

    Is this true? Usually, the series airs from October-November and for 2 series, November to December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭DynamiteC101


    It will be interesting to see how the 'Gits bone' storyline develops in the next two episodes:

    I think it's fair to say that Dano is dead, although that is still somewhat ambiguous due to no aftermath (no funeral, no body in morgue, no news headline, etc). If we take it that Dano is dead, then we're left with Tony. I think it's pretty obvious from last season that Tony didn't give a toss about Git; he simply wanted protection money from Nidge. Therefore my prediction is that Siobhan will tell the guards about the bone, and they will be able to arrest Nidge pending a trial - as someone pointed out earlier, season 6 could be about Fran and Nidge in jail together.

    So much can happen that it's impossible to predict. I don't know who will get killed before the end of this season, but my guess is that season 6 will be about Fran and Nidge in jail together while Nidge awaits trial, and Terence will be out to get Nidge. Obviously there will be many more story lines and sub-plots along with that, but I think that's going to be the main one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭C__MC


    When was patricks other son killed or what happened him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    C__MC wrote: »
    When was patricks other son killed or what happened him?

    It happened in the unaired pilot hit and run by nidge when doing a job for John boy


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  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    C__MC wrote: »
    When was patricks other son killed or what happened him?


    Its unclear.


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