NBA Offseason 2014

ec18 · 17-10-2014 7:18pm

i'm tempted by it but I'm not sure......for anyone who has it does everything work on demand? ...... like can you re watch episodes of open court and other NBA tv

D2D · 17-10-2014 10:36pm

ec18 wrote: »

i'm tempted by it but I'm not sure......for anyone who has it does everything work on demand? ...... like can you re watch episodes of open court and other NBA tv

Every game are on-demand from the past 2 season. Everything on NBA TV is on demand from only the previous week or two. I usually got LP because it's the only place I could watch my Cavs but seeing as we're now on BT Sports at least 10 times before December, I'm giving it a think-over. Will probably end up getting it though

GoldFour4 · 17-10-2014 10:39pm

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Everything on NBA TV is on demand from only the previous week or two. I usually got LP because it's the only place I could watch my Cavs but seeing as we're now on BT Sports at least 10 times before December, I'm giving it a think-over. Will probably end up getting it though

I think the main settling point for me getting it will be the monthly charge of €19.99 spread across several months. I've NFL gamepass and they charge over a few months only and it's €39.99 each month which is a bit much to be going out of the bank account each month.

D2D · 17-10-2014 11:26pm

malistheman wrote: »

I think the main settling point for me getting it will be the monthly charge of €19.99 spread across several months. I've NFL gamepass and they charge over a few months only and it's €39.99 each month which is a bit much to be going out of the bank account each month.

I'd agree on that, 40 a month is a ton. If I was you, I'd hold off on getting LP until December-Febuary. That way, you're covered for the NBA run in, you can focus on all regular season/playoff games on Gamepass and the price of LP will usually be reduced down (think last year, it was a fiver less a month or €30 less as a once off)

19-10-2014 6:51pm

when is bill simmons back it was a bull**** suspension day one and i want my bs report

D2D · 19-10-2014 6:54pm

Cali Angry Roller-skate wrote: »

when is bill simmons back it was a bull**** suspension day one and i want my bs report

He's been back since last Wednesday. No idea when the next B.S Report podcast is out but Bill and Jalen's NBA preview videos are underway on Grantland now:

http://grantland.com/2014-bill-and-jalen-nba-preview/

19-10-2014 6:55pm

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

He's been back since last Wednesday. No idea when the next B.S Report podcast is out but Bill and Jalen's NBA preview videos are underway on Grantland now:

http://grantland.com/2014-bill-and-jalen-nba-preview/

sweet great news cheers mate

GoldFour4 · 19-10-2014 6:57pm

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

He's been back since last Wednesday. No idea when the next B.S Report podcast is out but Bill and Jalen's NBA preview videos are underway on Grantland now:

http://grantland.com/2014-bill-and-jalen-nba-preview/

Yeah they're putting up a couple at a time, they were recorded before he was suspended though so I'm not sure what he's up to.

Oat23 · 19-10-2014 7:20pm

Ballstreams is much better than league pass in my opinion. I've had both and Ballstreams has better quality, the broadcasts are local so you get pregame/postgame and everything is archived instantly to watch. DVR features etc. all included too.

ec18 · 19-10-2014 7:33pm

I gather that ballstreams doesn't include NBA Tv?

Oat23 · 19-10-2014 7:49pm

ec18 wrote: »

I gather that ballstreams doesn't include NBA Tv?

Don't believe so.

They do have a neat feature where if you buy a 1 year sub now for $100, you can ''freeze'' your account in June after the season ends and then restart it again next October. So if you sign up now you can get a subscription until February 2016 if you freeze the account next summer.

padraig_f · 21-10-2014 1:05am

Don't want to get too excited about a pre-season game, but D. Rose on fire against the Cavs, 20 points in the first half.

killwill · 21-10-2014 2:21am

padraig_f wrote: »

Don't want to get too excited about a pre-season game, but D. Rose on fire against the Cavs, 20 points in the first half.

Kyrie had a great game too.
Potentially the best two PGs this season, obviously Chris Paul will be up there too.

padraig_f · 21-10-2014 10:12am

killwill wrote: »

Kyrie had a great game too.
Potentially the best two PGs this season, obviously Chris Paul will be up there too.

Yeah, offensively anyway

30 points in 24 mins...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-fq9tGPA8

22-10-2014 12:52am

Magic sign vucivec to a long term deal

stuchyg · 23-10-2014 11:54pm

What exactly do you get with NBA TV for 6 quid a month does anyone know?

buyer95 · 24-10-2014 1:12am

Wow, Nash ruled out for the year with nerve issues in back. Retirement is now very imminent I would presume, a sad way to go.

Dublin Red Devil · 24-10-2014 5:10am

buyer95 wrote: »

Wow, Nash ruled out for the year with nerve issues in back. Retirement is now very imminent I would presume, a sad way to go.

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

GoldFour4 · 24-10-2014 8:19am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

Ah come off it. Those Nash teams in Phoenix were amongst the most entertaining basketball I've ever watched. He'll have his jersey retired there and hanging from the rafters a few years after he retired. He's one of the best shooters the league has seen, not in terms of raw FG made like Allen or Miller, but in terms of percentages. Those years he was the MVP in Phoenix he pushed the ball up the court at an astounding pace (7 seconds or less) and always seemed to pick out the right option on a play, be it driving to the hoop himself or finding an open man to pass to. Sure fire hall of famer in my opinion anyway.

stuchyg · 24-10-2014 10:49am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

This is quite possibly one of the most stupid posts i have seen in this forum. 2 time MVP(regardless of how merited one may have been), a 50/40/90 shooter at a record setting level, an icon for every canadian player who will enter the league for the next 10 years and one of if not the most important Suns in the last 20 years. But yeah, not that great

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2014 11:11am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

I honestly said to myself when the replies came up in my inbox on this subject that this has to DRD again, and lo and behold, it is. I thought your comments on Indiana last year were hilariously biased and bad, but well done, you've managed to top yourself wit this one. I'm genuinely wondering if you're trolling, as you couldn't have this little knowledge of the game to post something like that seriously, could you?

PizzamanIRL · 24-10-2014 11:26am

Ade must be fuming not being able to reply to that

buyer95 · 24-10-2014 2:01pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

Tbh I havn't respected DRD opinion on point guards since he posted here that Felton and Vasquez are better than Wall. I can dig out the post if anyone doesn't believe me.

GoldFour4 · 24-10-2014 2:04pm

Can we please refrain from attacking the poster rather than the post? I have no problem with people debating the points made in the post above but digging up past posts to illustrate your lack of respect is not on

buyer95 · 24-10-2014 2:17pm

malistheman wrote: »

Can we please refrain from attacking the poster rather than the post? I have no problem with people debating the points made in the post above but digging up past posts to illustrate your lack of respect is not on

Fair enough Mal sorry, but the lack of respect for Steve Nash by DRD has upset me. I don't view my post as an attack on him, merely an attack on his ability to judge a good point guard. We've been down the John Wall road one too many times(major understatement:pac:) and no one would dispute what a great player he is.

To call Nash overrated is borderline heresy. He is the no.3 all time assist leader, best FT shooter ever, one of the greatest pure shooters ever. He was unstoppable on the pick and roll at getting into the lane, and dishing to the open guy for the easy basket. He was the lynchpin of one of the most aesthetically pleasing offenses ever seen in the NBA with Phoenix, running teams out of the building on a nightly basis. To go out on a whimper is so very sad for this great player.

I apologise if my post came across as overly offensive to DRD, but that comment really, really bothered me.

buyer95 · 24-10-2014 2:49pm

Great piece by Kevin Love on joining the Cavs http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-how-i-spent-my-summer-vacation/

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2014 4:23pm

malistheman wrote: »

Can we please refrain from attacking the poster rather than the post? I have no problem with people debating the points made in the post above but digging up past posts to illustrate your lack of respect is not on

No problem in that Mal, but sometimes I can't help but think a certain someone is just trolling for reaction(s) on this forum.

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2014 12:44am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

I'm just going to park this here in response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SOwamlf8OE

killwill · 25-10-2014 1:26am

For Forks Sake wrote: »

I'm just going to park this here in response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SOwamlf8OE

Stoudamire was a beast in his Phoenix days too wasnt he?
Imagine playing with a PG like that. All you need to do is step into space and he will do all the hard work.

Carcharodon · 25-10-2014 5:18am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

A very obvious attempt to rile people up or else a shocking assessment of a player, I hope it's the first one to be honest.
I think this poster has been down this road before if I am not mistaken, on more than one occasion...

GoldFour4 · 25-10-2014 9:30am

Carcharodon wrote: »

A very obvious attempt to rile people up or else a shocking assessment of a player, I hope it's the first one to be honest.
I think this poster has been down this road before if I am not mistaken, on more than one occasion...

Please refrain from accusing someone of trolling/being a troll. That's a warning for everyone. I don't want a repeat of last seasons crap. If I think a post is overstepping the mark then I'll deal with it. If you don't like a post, report it.

padraig_f · 25-10-2014 1:31pm

Another great game from Rose last night in the final pre-season game. Got that floater going, which he was deadly with a couple of years ago, but hadn't been too consistent with post-injury. Good to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP3BneJ9c9k

Butler didn't play with a sprained thumb, hopefully he's back for the regular season opener on Wednesday. Madison Square Garden, and I think there might be a slight edge to the Bulls' play to show Melo what he turned down.

buyer95 · 25-10-2014 3:30pm

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

Felexicon · 25-10-2014 3:43pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

If that someone is Ade and it's about DRD then leave it off. It adds nothing to this discussion.

GoldFour4 · 25-10-2014 6:02pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

Yeah not a chance in hell we're opening that mess up again.Thought we'd moved well past it.

Dublin Red Devil · 25-10-2014 7:27pm

I just opened a 14/15 regular season thread. The off-season is over. NBA is back

Itssoeasy · 25-10-2014 11:10pm

Cali Angry Roller-skate wrote: »

at least the celtics have there history shure the iggles will have there super bowl (first of many) in the next few years anyway under his chipness

how do you feel about the celtics this year yourself

I think they will have to be better than last year as I said they would be. I think brad Stevens is a good coach and with having rondo for nearly all the season will help and the good players we have have a year more under their belts so that has to help.

25-10-2014 11:34pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I think they will have to be better than last year as I said they would be. I think brad Stevens is a good coach and with having rondo for nearly all the season will help and the good players we have have a year more under their belts so that has to help.

I think rondos gone I'm afraid last season of his contract and I don't think he will want to stick around for a rebuild. So we will probably have to trade him and we probably won't be happy with the trade

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2014 11:52pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

Rebuttal #2: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2243240-howard-beck-on-why-steve-nash-is-a-lock-to-be-a-first-ballot-hall-of-famer

NufcNavan · 26-10-2014 12:49am

I understand it is fun to compare players and I get the arguments. When a guy like Nash retires (or is forced out in this case), I like to take time to reflect on what said player contributed to the game.

In Nash's case he changed the way the game was played and made team ball "fun" and "in vogue" again. Teams started to move away from one on one isos and went to team ball after watching Nash and Phoenix and the early 2000s Sacramento teams.

Yes, Nash had his flaws, but he was a remarkable player who played the game the right way and was a ton of fun to watch. Right now I am content paying homage to Nash. In a while I may begin to ponder his place in history and compare him to other players, but now is not the time, at least for me.

Dublin Red Devil · 26-10-2014 4:44pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Rebuttal #2: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2243240-howard-beck-on-why-steve-nash-is-a-lock-to-be-a-first-ballot-hall-of-famer

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

killwill · 26-10-2014 8:51pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

That piece in bold really grinds my gears.
It's no way to measure a players quality at all.
Chris Mullen- No ring
Chris Webber- No ring
Charles Barkley- No ring
Reggie Miller- No ring
Vince Carter- No ring
Grant Hill- No ring
Chris Paul- No ring(so far)
Dwight Howard- No ring(so far)

All pretty much guarenteed Hall of Famers.

For Forks Sake · 26-10-2014 9:50pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

I'm not going to entertain this nonsense.

Felexicon · 26-10-2014 10:41pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

So you don't consider the following as great players because they have no rings?

John Stockton
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley

If you're going to make an argument about something make sure it has some basis in reality.
Rings don't always make great players. Just remember how many Mark Madsen has with the Lakers.

For Forks Sake · 26-10-2014 11:11pm

Felexicon wrote: »

So you don't consider the following as great players because they have no rings?

John Stockton
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley

If you're going to make an argument about something make sure it has some basis in reality.
Rings don't always make great players. Just remember how many Mark Madsen has with the Lakers.

Luke Walton has two rings ffs.

Dublin Red Devil · 26-10-2014 11:18pm

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Felexicon · 27-10-2014 12:36am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Why do you think they were undeserved? I think in those 2 seasons Nash was the MVP. If you took him off those Phoenix teams and replaced him with any other point guard in the league it wouldn't have worked as well. It was like Nash, D'Antoni, 7 seconds or less and Amare created some kind of perfect storm where everything clicked and a new style of NBA basketball was created where it wasn't all about set plays and isolations. It was a great time to watch basketball, so what if they didn't get a ring, I had a great time watching them try

27-10-2014 1:04am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Honest quiestion did you watch the nba when Nash played and did you watch much of the Suns at the time

D2D · 01-11-2014 1:46am

After an amazing off-season and seeing that the NBA Season is now officially underway, there's no reason for this to be open so I'm going to lock this

NBA Offseason 2014

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