NBA Offseason 2014

GoldFour4 · 25-10-2014 9:30am

Carcharodon wrote: »

A very obvious attempt to rile people up or else a shocking assessment of a player, I hope it's the first one to be honest.
I think this poster has been down this road before if I am not mistaken, on more than one occasion...

Please refrain from accusing someone of trolling/being a troll. That's a warning for everyone. I don't want a repeat of last seasons crap. If I think a post is overstepping the mark then I'll deal with it. If you don't like a post, report it.

padraig_f · 25-10-2014 1:31pm

Another great game from Rose last night in the final pre-season game. Got that floater going, which he was deadly with a couple of years ago, but hadn't been too consistent with post-injury. Good to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP3BneJ9c9k

Butler didn't play with a sprained thumb, hopefully he's back for the regular season opener on Wednesday. Madison Square Garden, and I think there might be a slight edge to the Bulls' play to show Melo what he turned down.

buyer95 · 25-10-2014 3:30pm

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

Felexicon · 25-10-2014 3:43pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

If that someone is Ade and it's about DRD then leave it off. It adds nothing to this discussion.

GoldFour4 · 25-10-2014 6:02pm

buyer95 wrote: »

Is it against charter rules to repost a non members thoughts on a certain post? A certain someone has spoken.

Yeah not a chance in hell we're opening that mess up again.Thought we'd moved well past it.

Dublin Red Devil · 25-10-2014 7:27pm

I just opened a 14/15 regular season thread. The off-season is over. NBA is back

Itssoeasy · 25-10-2014 11:10pm

nerd69 wrote: »

at least the celtics have there history shure the iggles will have there super bowl (first of many) in the next few years anyway under his chipness

how do you feel about the celtics this year yourself

I think they will have to be better than last year as I said they would be. I think brad Stevens is a good coach and with having rondo for nearly all the season will help and the good players we have have a year more under their belts so that has to help.

nerd69 · 25-10-2014 11:34pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I think they will have to be better than last year as I said they would be. I think brad Stevens is a good coach and with having rondo for nearly all the season will help and the good players we have have a year more under their belts so that has to help.

I think rondos gone I'm afraid last season of his contract and I don't think he will want to stick around for a rebuild. So we will probably have to trade him and we probably won't be happy with the trade

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2014 11:52pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

I don't think he will go down as a great player. Should never have been given MVPs, No defensive skills, Completely overrated player. No jersey in any rafters, No place in the hall of fame

Rebuttal #2: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2243240-howard-beck-on-why-steve-nash-is-a-lock-to-be-a-first-ballot-hall-of-famer

NufcNavan · 26-10-2014 12:49am

I understand it is fun to compare players and I get the arguments. When a guy like Nash retires (or is forced out in this case), I like to take time to reflect on what said player contributed to the game.

In Nash's case he changed the way the game was played and made team ball "fun" and "in vogue" again. Teams started to move away from one on one isos and went to team ball after watching Nash and Phoenix and the early 2000s Sacramento teams.

Yes, Nash had his flaws, but he was a remarkable player who played the game the right way and was a ton of fun to watch. Right now I am content paying homage to Nash. In a while I may begin to ponder his place in history and compare him to other players, but now is not the time, at least for me.

Dublin Red Devil · 26-10-2014 4:44pm

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Rebuttal #2: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2243240-howard-beck-on-why-steve-nash-is-a-lock-to-be-a-first-ballot-hall-of-famer

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

killwill · 26-10-2014 8:51pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

That piece in bold really grinds my gears.
It's no way to measure a players quality at all.
Chris Mullen- No ring
Chris Webber- No ring
Charles Barkley- No ring
Reggie Miller- No ring
Vince Carter- No ring
Grant Hill- No ring
Chris Paul- No ring(so far)
Dwight Howard- No ring(so far)

All pretty much guarenteed Hall of Famers.

For Forks Sake · 26-10-2014 9:50pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

I'm not going to entertain this nonsense.

Felexicon · 26-10-2014 10:41pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

1st ballot my ass. The man had no defense. He couldn't even guard his own man in those so called MVP seasons. He had to have Shawn Marrion guard the opposition point guard.

A player with no rings.who had good teammates and couldn't lead them to even one conference title

So you don't consider the following as great players because they have no rings?

John Stockton
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley

If you're going to make an argument about something make sure it has some basis in reality.
Rings don't always make great players. Just remember how many Mark Madsen has with the Lakers.

For Forks Sake · 26-10-2014 11:11pm

Felexicon wrote: »

So you don't consider the following as great players because they have no rings?

John Stockton
Karl Malone
Patrick Ewing
Charles Barkley

If you're going to make an argument about something make sure it has some basis in reality.
Rings don't always make great players. Just remember how many Mark Madsen has with the Lakers.

Luke Walton has two rings ffs.

Dublin Red Devil · 26-10-2014 11:18pm

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Felexicon · 27-10-2014 12:36am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Why do you think they were undeserved? I think in those 2 seasons Nash was the MVP. If you took him off those Phoenix teams and replaced him with any other point guard in the league it wouldn't have worked as well. It was like Nash, D'Antoni, 7 seconds or less and Amare created some kind of perfect storm where everything clicked and a new style of NBA basketball was created where it wasn't all about set plays and isolations. It was a great time to watch basketball, so what if they didn't get a ring, I had a great time watching them try

nerd69 · 27-10-2014 1:04am

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Bottom line. Last time I'll post on Nash. He was an overratted player. Good, not great. Awarded 2 very questionable MVPs in his career. Both undeserved in my opinion.

Honest quiestion did you watch the nba when Nash played and did you watch much of the Suns at the time

D2D · 01-11-2014 1:46am

After an amazing off-season and seeing that the NBA Season is now officially underway, there's no reason for this to be open so I'm going to lock this

NBA Offseason 2014

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