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Bulking + working.

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  • #32
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,912 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Darrenon91 wrote: »
    I never said I thought I was overtraining. Just asked a question.

    I was speaking about people in general.


  • #33
    Darrenon91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Darrenon91


    Cool, cheers for all the advice anyways all. Looking forward to seeing the results. May post here in 3-4 weeks again to report how these tips have helped.


  • #34
    MaceFace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Over training can be a problem for "normal folk". All it is, is not giving your body time to recover.
    It's not just the effort you put in while at the gym but includes nutrition and rest/sleep as well.

    I would say generally that as long as you don't train the same muscle group within 48 hours and take a couple of days off a week, you're not over training.


  • #35
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    conzy wrote: »
    Do you make the meals yourself? A tin of coconut milk adds over 550 calories to a sauce. Dextrose is extremely cheap and if you put 100g in your post workout shake thats another ~400 calories

    I personally wouldn't use 100 grams of dextrose post workout. I'd go 50/50 maltodextrin and dextrose. 100g would have me bloated and feeling like I'm going to **** myself.


  • #36
    Darrenon91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Darrenon91


    MaceFace wrote: »
    Over training can be a problem for "normal folk". All it is, is not giving your body time to recover.
    It's not just the effort you put in while at the gym but includes nutrition and rest/sleep as well.

    I would say generally that as long as you don't train the same muscle group within 48 hours and take a couple of days off a week, you're not over training.

    Ya this is pretty much me then. I have rest days and get plenty of sleep (midweek anyways). Going to get purchase those products this weekend and start from monday/tuesday. Season ending game/bank holiday wont be a good time to start these in my diet I am sure.


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  • #37
    generic2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭generic2012


    You're confusing 'over-reaching' with 'over-training'. I train full body 5/6 times a week. It's all about control of volume and intensity.

    Over-training is a medical condition that may required hospitalisation. Most people will never know anything near it.


  • #38
    Darrenon91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Darrenon91


    I was mentioning overtraining in a context where I maybe training too much in that I may not be getting the best results by training again the next day. ie not enough rest for the muscles to heal fully, not in a I'm exausted everyday and I feel ill way.


  • #39
    generic2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭generic2012


    Darrenon91 wrote: »
    I was mentioning overtraining in a context where I maybe training too much in that I may not be getting the best results by training again the next day. ie not enough rest for the muscles to heal fully, not in a I'm exausted everyday and I feel ill way.

    If you are progressing in strength, then what you are doing is working. If it is not progressing, it is likely that the volume isn't there. Work out your weekly volume and see if reducing the frequency per bodypart (eg, every 2 days rather than everyday) while increasing that days volume will raise weekly volume.

    It's total volume that dictates hypertrophy and possibly strength, or it's at least the best predictor. So you could do one day a week of chest flyes at 6 x 8 x 15 kg, which would give you a weekly volume of 720 kg, or you could do the Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 2 x 8 x 15 kg for the same total volume of 720 kg (adding another set each training day in the former will increase weekly volume by 120 kg, while adding a set each day to the latter will increase weekly volume by 360 kg).

    Think of training like counting calories. You could have a great day or a bad day but it wont affect your progress unless it throws of your whole week or derails you some other way.

    TL;DR if it's working, what the **** about it? Keep her lit.


  • #40
    Darrenon91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Darrenon91


    Cheers Generic. I think what I am doing is working anyways I just posted this thread to get a little extra help as I step it up in the off season. New job aswel threw off my routine as I used to work shift work. Back to a good routine now though.


  • #41
    conzy
    Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    I personally wouldn't use 100 grams of dextrose post workout. I'd go 50/50 maltodextrin and dextrose. 100g would have me bloated and feeling like I'm going to **** myself.

    Thanks for the tip, I do feel a bit bloated sometimes, I presumed it was the sweetness. I'll try cut it with maltodextrin


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  • #42
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Darrenon91 wrote: »
    Sounds like it tastes nice too. Thanks ill give it a try.

    It tastes heavenly. I'm having some now. It's the highlight of my day.


  • #43
    Darrenon91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Darrenon91


    Hit 103.5kg this morning before breakfast. pretty happy with that. Have added way more oats, peanut butter and rice cakes and flapjacks into the diet and it seems to be paying off. was 102kg on the button when I started this thread. Is that good progress?


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