Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

emanresu esrever wrote: »

I think there may be be drugs in one the red hatted gnomes by accident and that will cause trouble if he sells them. That would be a good twist

I'd imagine it will be more like Moynihan arranges a tail on Elmo after what Siobhan told him. He then questions why Elmo's flogging gnomes all of a sudden, which tips him off to how the drugs are coming in.

emanresu esrever wrote: »

I think there may be be drugs in one the red hatted gnomes by accident and that will cause trouble if he sells them. That would be a good twist

that was a funny part to the script, blue eyes have the yokes and the brown eyes have the gear.

Noelie does know Fran is inside, he saw him and looked back twice to make sure. this happened before the 3 lads attacked him.

Tonights episode reminded me if season 4..the prison stuff was intense but thats about it..poor writing. Season 3 was the best by a mile.

The red Gnomes could pull a fast one on Elmo and dig up the stash.

Only thing I had to watch the end over for was who was sitting with Pottsie in the hospital. At first glance I thought it was Paulie and wondered *wtf is he doin there*.....but a rewatch now and think it was just a prison guard, although I didn't see one with Fran.

I thought tonight's episode was pretty decent, albeit very gruesome and gritty.

Positives of tonight's episode:

(1) The pub scene was done pretty well. The nefarious effects of E/MDMA were depicted in a very gritty and realistic manner.

(2) The eye-stabbing scene was brutal but very good. A great deal of suspense when Fran/Pottsie were grasping at each other for a few seconds, before Fran nailed the final blow.

(3) Paulie and Siobans relationship is quite intriguing. He'd have her killed in a second - as Moynihan aptly points out - but his cunning charm is keeping her at bay. This is most notable in her apartment at the end when he is completely cool with the idea of her ''staying in for one night''.

(4) The scene with Dean at the end was gangland portrayal at its best. Nidge's complete ruthlessness is all to see when he callously informs Dean of his faith in the silage pit, while the 'rat' element of gangland comes in the form of Dean snitching on Fran to save his life.

Negatives of tonight's episode:

(1) As someone on this thread pointed out earlier, the 'Siobhan the informer' story line isn't really going any where. ''I saw Paulie with so and so'' is become a bit repetitive, and I hope that there is a big breakthrough in this sub-plot soon.

(2) There is just a bit too much driving around in Love/Hate. The constant driving and transport scenes are becoming over-used fillers. This counts as a general criticism of the show, not just tonight's episode.


1st episode of this season = 6/10 - Very scattered and some poor acting but a great ending saved face.
2nd episode of this season=9/10 - Excellent from start to finish. Coherent story-lines with great conclusions, and some very good acting throughout.
3rd episode of this season = 7/10 - A decent filler episode with some very good production. Story-lines a bit stagnant, but it sets everything up nicely for the final 3 episodes.

Benteke wrote: »

How can you say the informer story is going nowhere? I think everyone has missed the most important part tonight, Nidge has put elmo in charge of the drugs, He has buried them for now and he will hand them over to ever nidge tells him to in possibly the next episode, Siobhan has informed the guards about elmo so he is a watched man and he will lead them straight to the drugs, Elmo will be a deadman walking nidge will owe big balls a lot of money without any drugs to sell, All in all Siobhan has caused uproar by informing, Sometimes it's the little things you have to listen to for a story to unfold

Yeah that is a very fair point actually, but I hope there is an eventual breakthrough of that sort!

Benteke wrote: »

The show is usually fast paced for this sort of thing, I expect it all to happen next week along with the noelie hughes and fran in prison

Yeah. What's your verdict on the season so far any ways?

Benteke wrote: »

Im enjoying it, It's building up nicely, Even the filler episodes are decent, You can't always have episodes like last week, You have to remember also, episodes like last week only happened because of filler episodes setting everything in motion, Tonight we had a few plots been set up and we will get the pay off and have more cracking episodes, All in all much better that S4 so can't complain, Peter Coonan is the star of the series by far

Agreed. Season 2 and 3 are generally seen as the best two seasons of love/hate, but this is matching them so far in my opinion. A strong second half to this season will definitely put it on par with them.

Very impressed with Aoibhinn McGinnity (Trish) in the few moments she has been in it this season. Thought she was superb in that crying scene last week.

I think Janet will turn into a rat on Nidge. He's been spending more time with Trish again which could make her jealous, and also I think she will somehow blame Nidge for some future serious trouble her son gets into - either because Nidge hires him to do something for him, or because Nidge finally snaps and tells her that he doesn't give a fcuk about her son and won't talk to him.
(Guards could offer her a deal - let her son off trouble in return for information on Nidge)

I could see Trish harming herself or having a breakdown.

I don't think Paulie gives a fcuk about Siobhan romantically, just interested in her prettiness and the shagging. Maybe he notices it winds up Nidge aswell and is enjoying that aspect - sort of reinforcing what he said earlier about him not being under Nidge's control, by openly flaunting a thing with Nidge's niece in front of everyone it's showing them that he does what he wants and doesn't care what Nidge thinks. (He also told Aido to tell Nidge go fcuk himself)
He was instantly suspicious and questioning of Siobhan tonight over her hospital excuse.
Don't think he trusts anybody and would like Moynihan said kill her in an instant if needs be.

If it transpires that Paulie is a bit too fond of the drugs himself though in coming episodes, it could lead to his downfall somehow.

Aido will turn on Nidge. Of this I am almost sure. I am not sure what form this turn will take, but you could clearly see he was fuming tonight and realising how selfish and bull****ting Nidge was when Nidge kept saying that Fran needed to be got for "Pottsie's sake" and "I'll pay him for the eye".

I don't know what is going to happen with the traveller Paddy.
I think Nidge might succeed in getting him killed but there would definitely be a revenge attack from the other travellers.

We were told Tommie's eyes opened in this episode.
I thought he was going to die early on, but now I'm wondering if the reason they keep showing him every episode is because he is going to make a recovery?

Don't know what's going to happen with Fran.
I think he will make some new friends in jail who might serve as new characters in the next season on his mission for revenge.

I'm another one who thinks (and hopes) that Dano is alive - just waiting for that grand finale scene at the end of the show.

Betty Bloggs wrote: »

Don't know what's going to happen with Fran.
I think he will make some new friends in jail who might serve as new characters in the next season on his mission for revenge.

Next season, isn't this the final one?