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Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • #1532
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    They've confused themselves there, 36 to 33c/l would be a 3 cent cut


  • #1533
    Mulumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Arrabawn down 2 cent for September


  • #1534
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    Arrabawn down 2 cent for September

    Beat me to it!!.33.87 vat inc.still 3.3 cent plus above Glanbia 😄😄


  • #1535
    Mulumpy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    However long that lasts


  • #1536
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Beat me to it!!.33.87 vat inc.still 3.3 cent plus above Glanbia 😄😄

    Almost ten percent more than glanbia.

    Glanbia will be losing a few suppliers if this keeps up.:mad::mad:


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  • #1537
    milkprofit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    5live wrote: »
    He doesn't have to.

    But there should be an onus on informing shareholders of discussions taking place that will affect them in the future. An example is a senior manager complaining about an issue that was discussed at the shareholders meeting last year, saying it had been discussed at length. It had been, but at advisory level and none of that discussion was forwarded to the majority of shareholders at any point during the preceeding year, just presented as a fait accompli at the end.

    There are issues that need to be retained at advisory level but, equally, there are issues that need to be forwarded to other shareholders at an early stage of discussions.

    There is no structured way for shareholders to meet without management present to influence discussion


  • #1538
    5live
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    milkprofit wrote: »
    There is no structured way for shareholders to meet without management present to influence discussion
    I didn't mention anything about a meeting:confused:


  • #1539
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭stanflt


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Beat me to it!!.33.87 vat inc.still 3.3 cent plus above Glanbia 😄😄


    Mahoney the difference you will get for your sept milk and what I receive would pay my mortgage and bill for the month and still have spare cash


  • #1540
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mf240 wrote: »
    Almost ten percent more than glanbia.

    Glanbia will be losing a few suppliers if this keeps up.:mad::mad:

    Have a meeting next week with another supplier, all going well notice to leave will be going in before the month is out


  • #1541
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    stanflt wrote: »
    Mahoney the difference you will get for your sept milk and what I receive would pay my mortgage and bill for the month and still have spare cash

    Next 7 or 8 months are going to be real batten down the hatches ones .a decent spring with lots of quality grass to produce milk as cheap as possible is a must


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  • #1542
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Next 7 or 8 months are going to be real batten down the hatches ones .a decent spring with lots of quality grass to produce milk as cheap as possible is a must

    That's what I've been saying every year. Profit is the goal not yield regardless of price. Guys talking about maize and beet to buffer. Bananas why add costs by calving too early and chasing yield


  • #1543
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    That's what I've been saying every year. Profit is the goal not yield regardless of price. Guys talking about maize and beet to buffer. Bananas why add costs by calving too early and chasing yield

    The amount of fields of maize and beey you see around tye country and then you see cows licking the ground this time of yr. Lads aren't doing the basics right


  • #1544
    Deepsouthwest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    The amount of fields of maize and beey you see around tye country and then you see cows licking the ground this time of yr. Lads aren't doing the basics right

    Surely a lot of this is down to quota restrictions. Surely there'd be a response to feeding a few kgs of meal or whatever with grass at this stage of the yr. I'm feeding 0.5kg and milking OAD, trying to keep as much quota as possible for nxt spring, doubt if I'm the only one in this boat


  • #1545
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    The amount of fields of maize and beey you see around tye country and then you see cows licking the ground this time of yr. Lads aren't doing the basics right

    If you are stocked highly so tgat you need to buy in extra fodder for winter maize or other crops are options ahead of silage at times. Agreed on not buffer feeding with another forage if there is enough usable grass around,


  • #1546
    mf240
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    The amount of fields of maize and beey you see around tye country and then you see cows licking the ground this time of yr. Lads aren't doing the basics right

    Am like well you could feed them some of the beet or maize if there short grass.

    Is beet that expensive.


  • #1547
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Surely a lot of this is down to quota restrictions. Surely there'd be a response to feeding a few kgs of meal or whatever with grass at this stage of the yr. I'm feeding 0.5kg and milking OAD, trying to keep as much quota as possible for nxt spring, doubt if I'm the only one in this boat

    Would we not be better to stock according to what we can grow? Obviously feed required at shoulders and to cover cal mag. I'd be concerned lads will add expense following yield because of no quota.

    We can't afford to substitute grass supplement yes

    My plans for next year was to increase cows by 25%. With price cut looming our budgets suggest a cut of 20% in numbers and selling these calved will yield me more profit. My heart wants to grow but my wallet wants profit so I waiting and seeing and will decide in the next few mths.


  • #1548
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Deepsouthwest wrote: »
    Surely a lot of this is down to quota restrictions. Surely there'd be a response to feeding a few kgs of meal or whatever with grass at this stage of the yr. I'm feeding 0.5kg and milking OAD, trying to keep as much quota as possible for nxt spring, doubt if I'm the only one in this boat
    I have no problem with feeding you have to do it if you need too im feeding kg here aswell as a bale/day. But if lads looked after there grass alot better it would make life easier instead of spending the day with the diet feeder.


  • #1549
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Milked out wrote: »
    If you are stocked highly so tgat you need to buy in extra fodder for winter maize or other crops are options ahead of silage at times. Agreed on not buffer feeding with another forage if there is enough usable grass around,

    My point waa though alot of lads aren't doing grass right and then relying on maize/beet to carry them. Alot of lads jyst graze the place bare most yrs and shut uo shop and dont get out till end of feb and are feeding silage and the likes when they could be at grass.
    Maize has its place aswell as beet but you might get more value with it with good quality grass at the shoulders?


  • #1550
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Would we not be better to stock according to what we can grow? Obviously feed required at shoulders and to cover cal mag. I'd be concerned lads will add expense following yield because of no quota.

    We can't afford to substitute grass supplement yes

    My plans for next year was to increase cows by 25%. With price cut looming our budgets suggest a cut of 20% in numbers and selling these calved will yield me more profit. My heart wants to grow but my wallet wants profit so I waiting and seeing and will decide in the next few mths.

    Were u planning on feeding extra meal to carry those extra cows or take extra land if u don't mind me asking? Just wondering as if you have the land to increase cows without increasing meal / supplementation surely it would make sense to increase numbers unless caught for winter feed?


  • #1551
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    My point waa though alot of lads aren't doing grass right and then relying on maize/beet to carry them. Alot of lads jyst graze the place bare most yrs and shut uo shop and dont get out till end of feb and are feeding silage and the likes when they could be at grass.
    Maize has its place aswell as beet but you might get more value with it with good quality grass at the shoulders?

    It's fairly farm specific really in terms of the type of land etc, wet spring would have some lads inside for a while whereas others would manage with back fencing, on off grazing, etc on drier land. Maize would be great this time of year however it is a bit late by the time it's harvested and fermented. Good in spring alrite if in and out with the cows


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  • #1552
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Milked out wrote: »
    Were u planning on feeding extra meal to carry those extra cows or take extra land if u don't mind me asking? Just wondering as if you have the land to increase cows without increasing meal / supplementation surely it would make sense to increase numbers unless caught for winter feed?

    No hitting 16 tonne grass this year so could carry but would have to import too much meal.

    Cows will be silly money this spring and price will no low so am thinking cash in cows keep all our heifers and cut her to the bone for the year. Look my heart is telling me your right but the books say otherwise. I'll make a call in Jan when I see prices of stock and milk. If I can see average milk price over 35 for next year I'll milk if not and cows are dear I'll cut back.

    We will still have enough heifers to grow in 2016. Thinking out loud, a lot going one way maybe I should go the other way:) talk of 2015 I can't see what's wrong with 16,17 or 18


  • #1553
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    No hitting 16 tonne grass this year so could carry but would have to import too much meal.

    Cows will be silly money this spring and price will no low so am thinking cash in cows keep all our heifers and cut her to the bone for the year. Look my heart is telling me your right but the books say otherwise. I'll make a call in Jan when I see prices of stock and milk. If I can see average milk price over 35 for next year I'll milk if not and cows are dear I'll cut back.

    We will still have enough heifers to grow in 2016. Thinking out loud, a lot going one way maybe I should go the other way:) talk of 2015 I can't see what's wrong with 16,17 or 18
    Father talking to dg member today he thinks its going to end badly for alot of lads. Alot just see the money but every one of us here knows the troubles we have had with our herds and how hard It was to grow imagine what it will be like for a novice.
    I hope it works out for all but undoubtedly wont


  • #1554
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,793 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Father talking to dg member today he thinks its going to end badly for alot of lads. Alot just see the money but every one of us here knows the troubles we have had with our herds and how hard It was to grow imagine what it will be like for a novice.
    I hope it works out for all but undoubtedly wont
    I just worry about whats inside my own gate, feck the rest of them


  • #1555
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I just worry about whats inside my own gate, feck the rest of them

    The longer I'm on here, the more I see you're right, looking forward here to getting away from the complaining and more time for my own sheep enterprise


  • #1556
    stop thelights
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭stop thelights


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I just worry about whats inside my own gate, feck the rest of them

    Never a truer word spoken. I don't think stock will make crazy money next jan,feb, march. Quota restrictions will see that there'll be no demand till April at least. Calves will be big money though. Reckon farmers will hold them to drink milk!

    One big thing though about feeding ration is that prices are falling big time and so is diesel


  • #1557
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,793 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Have a meeting next week with another supplier, all going well notice to leave will be going in before the month is out
    did you sign the Glanbia contract?


  • #1558
    jaymla627
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,128 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    whelan2 wrote: »
    did you sign the Glanbia contract?

    Nope thankfully, think I only have to give 6 months notice then I'm free to leave


  • #1559
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Milk man telling md this mor two winter milk lads he collects dried off last week doesn't know what they did with cows.
    Any way 39.25c
    4.06 P
    4.71 f
    Fat alot lower here thus yr compared to others. Other yrs it would be touching 5.2 now.
    No carry overs possibly doing it?


  • #1560
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Milk man telling md this mor two winter milk lads he collects dried off last week doesn't know what they did with cows.
    Any way 39.25c
    4.06 P
    4.71 f
    Fat alot lower here thus yr compared to others. Other yrs it would be touching 5.2 now.
    No carry overs possibly doing it?
    Nearly 9 cent over glanbis base and your dissapointed with those solids considering youve some fresh calvers in that bunch.Thats serious performance in my book.You must be a hard man to please!!


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  • #1561
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Nearly 9 cent over glanbis base and your dissapointed with those solids considering youve some fresh calvers in that bunch.Thats serious performance in my book.You must be a hard man to please!!

    Noy displeased one bit :) bit if fat was a bit higher ........:D


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