Trivial things that annoy you Part 43

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 16-10-2014 01:25PM

lanos wrote: »

i'll have to disagree with you Lexie dear
when we had our first kid, on paper it appeared we could not afford him.

but the money was found, for our 2 kids
same as for our dog and 3 cats

everybody should have a pet at some stage

I 100% with you, but not if people will get the pet and not look after it, (vaccinations, worming, chip, neutered)

lanos · 16-10-2014 01:33PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I 100% with you, but not if people will get the pet and not look after it, (vaccinations, worming, chip, neutered)

if every pet is neutered, in 10 years or so there will be no more pets
then what ?

NyOmnishambles · 16-10-2014 01:39PM

lanos wrote: »

or cleaners that kill 99.9% of germs

i would like to know which particular strains of bacteria the product is ineffective against
and how worried should i be about them.

or is this just a legal loophole so you don't get sued ?

Not quite a legal loophole but there are new bacteria discovered all the time, now generally the product will kill them but they can't actually claim to kill 100% when they haven't tested for it so they go with 99.9%

Barely There · 16-10-2014 01:42PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Surely if you have a pet you'll put the pet first, just like you'd put a child first.

Animals and children don't rank the same for most people in terms of importance.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 16-10-2014 01:47PM

Barely There wrote: »

Animals and children don't rank the same for most people in terms of importance.

I know that but if you have either in your care, you should be looking after them and putting their welfare first rather than not bothering. In that case why have a pet at all

Barely There · 16-10-2014 01:49PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I know that but if you have either in your care, you should be looking after them and putting their welfare first rather than not bothering. In that case why have a pet at all

I wouldn't be putting an animal's welfare before my own - even if it was an adorably cute puppy.

People >>>>> Animals.

Vel · 16-10-2014 01:50PM

lanos wrote: »

if every pet is neutered, in 10 years or so there will be no more pets
then what ?

There are FAR too many dogs being bred to begin with. We as a nation kill 1000s every year in pounds throughout the country. Supply and demand are not at all balanced. I don't think anyone is saying that no one should breed BUT it should be done for the right reasons and by people who are in it for the right reasons ie to improve the breed. It should not be done by backyard breeders, who are often ignorant and puppy farmers, who are in it for the money.

People should not be breeding unless they have guaranteed homes for the pups prior to the litter being bred. Reputable breeders do not need to advertise their pups. Anyone breeding designer cross breeds should be shot!

lanos · 16-10-2014 01:52PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I know that but if you have either in your care, you should be looking after them and putting their welfare first rather than not bothering. In that case why have a pet at all

all children should have a pet because it will help them learn to be caring humans and those skills would transfer well to parenthood.

however if the kid tortures the pet, we could have early indications of psychopathy that we might not otherwise detect.

so its all good

lanos · 16-10-2014 01:57PM

Vel wrote: »

Anyone breeding designer cross breeds should be shot!

shot by who, you ?

it is well known that a cross breed will have less genetic disorders than purebred pets

and if breeding was confined to Reputable breeders of purebreds only, the cost of a pet would double or treble and pet theft/kidnapping would become a bigger industry than it is now

don't pretend you have all the answers

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 02:05PM

lanos wrote: »

shot by who, you ?

it is well known that a cross breed will have less genetic disorders than purebred pets

and if breeding was confined to Reputable breeders of purebreds only, the cost of a pet would double or treble and pet theft/kidnapping would become a bigger industry than it is now

don't pretend you have all the answers

Says the one who thinks dogs and cats will become extinct if people practice responsible ownership. No doubt the colonies of feral cats who breed indiscriminately three times a year will be devastated to hear of their impending demise

Vel · 16-10-2014 02:08PM

lanos wrote: »

shot by who, you ?

it is well known that a cross breed will have less genetic disorders than purebred pets

and if breeding was confined to Reputable breeders of purebreds only, the cost of a pet would double or treble and pet theft/kidnapping would become a bigger industry than it is now

don't pretend you have all the answers

Yep, line them up and I'll give it my best, ahem, shot!

Health wise, I'd fancy my chances with a really well bred puppy from a good breeder whose parents are health tested over a designer cross from someone who is churning them out to make a buck any day! However, to date all of my dogs have been from rescues.

I certainly don't claim to have all the answers but I do have some knowledge in this area and I was trying to explain that it doesn't have to be a black and white situation where either we have a society that breeds too many dogs and destroys the 'surplus' every year or we have one where everyone neuters and pet die out!

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 02:18PM

Vel wrote: »

Yep, line them up and I'll give it my best, ahem, shot!

Health wise, I'd fancy my chances with a really well bred puppy from a good breeder whose parents are health tested over a designer cross from someone who is churning them out to make a buck any day! However, to date all of my dogs have been from rescues.

I certainly don't claim to have all the answers but I do have some knowledge in this area and I was trying to explain that it doesn't have to be a black and white situation where either we have a society that breeds too many dogs and destroys the 'surplus' every year or we have one where everyone neuters and pet die out!

For what it's worth, I think the idea of purebreds being less healthy comes from the practice of inbreeding and breeding to exaggerate certain breed traits that result in the animal suffering from health problems. Certainly for ascertaining potential health problems, access to parent's records etc is priceless. Eg hip dysplasia in GSD's etc. To balance the argument, we had a dog - a beautiful lab/red setter cross and she was always super healthy, which we put down to her being a "multipedigree" as we joked! In her tenth year she started to show neurological issues that were eventually diagnosed as degenerative myelopathy - sort of MS in dogs, which is creeping and progressive and leaves the dog a quadraplegic. This was a genetic disorder but neither of her parents or any of her siblings had it. It's a recessive gene so she just got unlucky with two carriers. Mutt - genetic disorder

There are no guarantees.

LynnGrace · 16-10-2014 02:18PM

Am way behind, have to catch up on the thread.

My own trivial annoyance today involved bus travel, someone tunelessly whistling, aaaargh and the person standing beside my seat, hanging in over me.

Oh and the feckin chuggers were out in force in Dublin city centre today, yelling at people to give them high fives, and so on. They are getting worse.

lanos · 16-10-2014 02:21PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Says the one who thinks dogs and cats will become extinct if people practice responsible ownership. No doubt the colonies of feral cats who breed indiscriminately three times a year will be devastated to hear of their impending demise

i'm sure feral cats have their place in the ecology
rodent control etc

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 02:21PM

LynnGrace wrote: »

Am way behind, have to catch up on the thread.

My own trivial annoyance today involved bus travel, someone tunelessly whistling, aaaargh and the person standing beside my seat, hanging in over me.

Oh and the feckin chuggers were out in force in Dublin city centre today, yelling at people to give them high fives, and so on. They are getting worse.

And when you ignore them, they shout "ok you have a nice day!" at you like some crazy fúck so desperate for the last word they'd follow it under a bus. Stupid, huggy, over-happy idiots.

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 02:27PM

Vel wrote: »

There are FAR too many dogs being bred to begin with. We as a nation kill 1000s every year in pounds throughout the country. Supply and demand are not at all balanced. I don't think anyone is saying that no one should breed BUT it should be done for the right reasons and by people who are in it for the right reasons ie to improve the breed. It should not be done by backyard breeders, who are often ignorant and puppy farmers, who are in it for the money.

People should not be breeding unless they have guaranteed homes for the pups prior to the litter being bred. Reputable breeders do not need to advertise their pups. Anyone breeding designer cross breeds should be shot!

I knew a responsible breeder who actually had contracts done up for owners of new pups, that if their circumstances changed and they could no longer keep the dog, they could return it to him. It actually happened in one case where a couple broke up and ended up living in two separate apts instead of a house. Dogs went back to the breeder. Better than winding up in a kennel where they might get homed out to someone who doesn't know about the breed or takes it because it looks good on the end of a lead.

Vel · 16-10-2014 02:27PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

For what it's worth, I think the idea of purebreds being less healthy comes from the practice of inbreeding and breeding to exaggerate certain breed traits that result in the animal suffering from health problems. Certainly for ascertaining potential health problems, access to parent's records etc is priceless. Eg hip dysplasia in GSD's etc. To balance the argument, we had a dog - a beautiful lab/red setter cross and she was always super healthy, which we put down to her being a "multipedigree" as we joked! In her tenth year she started to show neurological issues that were eventually diagnosed as degenerative myelopathy - sort of MS in dogs, which is creeping and progressive and leaves the dog a quadraplegic. This was a genetic disorder but neither of her parents or any of her siblings had it. It's a recessive gene so she just got unlucky with two carriers. Mutt - genetic disorder There are no guarantees.

Its true re. the pedigrees. I've been researching wolfhound breeders for the past while. Being a large breed they have a very short life span so it would be very important to us that we get one from a breeder whose dogs live as a long a life as possible. I could pick up a wolfhound on Donedeal for €600 and get a dog who would be lucky to live until they are 4 or 5, or I could spend the extra bucks and get one who has a much greater chance of living a lot longer.

One or both halves of many of these designer cross breeds are from breeds who are not healthy in the first place. Pugs and cavaliers, for example, as breeds have very well documented health issues which these pups could very well inherit.

These days, I think its a myth that a cross breed is more likely to be healthier than a well bred pedigree.

LynnGrace · 16-10-2014 02:33PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

And when you ignore them, they shout "ok you have a nice day!" at you like some crazy fúck so desperate for the last word they'd follow it under a bus. Stupid, huggy, over-happy idiots.

For once I managed to get by while they picked on others.
Better put that on the trivial things that make you happy thread

Vel · 16-10-2014 02:33PM

Two mint viscounts on my desk when I left for a meeting. Only one remaining when I returned. Only an absolute scumbag would steal someone's biscuit

Boom_Bap · 16-10-2014 02:34PM

Answering the phone in the office and BAM you are dragged into a conference call with no warning, and no clue about what is to be discussed.

Then the call is accross a few different countries in Africa with lots of noise on the line and you can barely hear the person who actually has something of significance to say.

eisenberg1 · 16-10-2014 02:38PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

For what it's worth, I think the idea of purebreds being less healthy comes from the practice of inbreeding and breeding to exaggerate certain breed traits that result in the animal suffering from health problems. Certainly for ascertaining potential health problems, access to parent's records etc is priceless. Eg hip dysplasia in GSD's etc. To balance the argument, we had a dog - a beautiful lab/red setter cross and she was always super healthy, which we put down to her being a "multipedigree" as we joked! In her tenth year she started to show neurological issues that were eventually diagnosed as degenerative myelopathy - sort of MS in dogs, which is creeping and progressive and leaves the dog a quadraplegic. This was a genetic disorder but neither of her parents or any of her siblings had it. It's a recessive gene so she just got unlucky with two carriers. Mutt - genetic disorder There are no guarantees.

I came across a clip on you yube, of a dog show of sorts, where a guy was hauling a GSD around the ring, the poor thing was hardly able to walk, obvious dysplasia and cow hocked, and the dog won!!

This dog probably went on to sire a pile of pups.....all because some favour a "nice slanty backed" GSD.

Vel · 16-10-2014 02:39PM

Hole punching documents and the fact that I am sh1t at it. I never get the holes in the right place and the pages in my folders are all over the shop.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 16-10-2014 02:41PM

Been trying to convince my manager to get the electric pallete fr urban decay into the salon for ages and she's being difficult, saying she doesn't think it's very versatile. I brought mine in today to show her and she wanted me to do a look on her. So I open up my palette, she takes one look at it, pales and tells me to do the look on myself. So now, I'm on reception in work with fushia pink electric blue and neon yellow eyes.

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 02:42PM

When a thread gets a bit heated and then you get a notifcation that the last poster was a mod and you're afraid to click back into it in case the post was the mod giving out to people...and then when you do click back into thread the mod was actually just contributing to the discussion and you didn't need to worry at all... :P

danrua01 · 16-10-2014 02:47PM

air conditioning...

i like to be almost cold, but this place is makin' me sweat!

Vel · 16-10-2014 02:51PM

Realising that your dress is just that little bit too inappropriately short for work

lanos · 16-10-2014 03:05PM

Vel wrote: »

Two mint viscounts on my desk when I left for a meeting. Only one remaining when I returned. Only an absolute scumbag would steal someone's biscuit

no, not fair

mint vicounts are too tempting.
the bikky thief is not to blame
it was tantamount to entrapment.

and did not the bible say
if you have 2 coats, you should give one to the man who has none.
same applies to vicounts

Barely There · 16-10-2014 03:11PM

Vel wrote: »

Realising that your dress is just that little bit too inappropriately short for work

There's no such thing as too short.

OldNotWIse · 16-10-2014 03:20PM

Vel wrote: »

Realising that your dress is just that little bit too inappropriately short for work

Putting on a figure hugging dress after a lunchtime swim and realising you left the magic pants at home. Damn.

Vel · 16-10-2014 03:24PM

Barely There wrote: »

There's no such thing as too short.

It is when you're having to root around under the desk for a file with your colleague standing over you

Trivial things that annoy you Part 43

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