GW 8 Transfer Thread

Shanotheslayer · 08-10-2014 10:47AM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

If you rewind this forum one year you'll probably see that I was predicting this also. Ozil had quite a few "lucky" assists early last year but didn't threaten the goal himself often enough. That was one I got right in the long term.
What are DiMaria's shooting stats like? I know he had 17 assists and four goals last year but Madrid got 104 goals in the league alone.

Can't really take into account ADM goals last year at Madrid considering they have Ronaldo Bale. Everything went through them. Where as at United everything foes through ADM

AdpRo · 08-10-2014 11:12AM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Can't really take into account ADM goals last year at Madrid considering they have Ronaldo Bale. Everything went through them. Where as at United everything foes through ADM

Exactly what I was about to say, comparing ADM at Madriad to ADM at Utd is pointless in my opinion. He is the main man at Utd, everything goes through him whereas at Madrid you had Bale / Ronaldo / Benzema / Khedira / Alonso. At the moment I cannot see how anyone can argue he isn't a must have. That may change but I'll be suprised if he isn't in 99% of active teams soon!

CSF · 08-10-2014 11:20AM

Weetabix wrote: »

Exactly what I was about to say, comparing ADM at Madriad to ADM at Utd is pointless in my opinion. He is the main man at Utd, everything goes through him whereas at Madrid you had Bale / Ronaldo / Benzema / Khedira / Alonso. At the moment I cannot see how anyone can argue he isn't a must have. That may change but I'll be suprised if he isn't in 99% of active teams soon!

I have worries about him long-term, thankfully those worries haven't presented themselves yet, and I'm willing to ride on this wave for as long as it will take me in the meantime.

AdMMM · 08-10-2014 11:40AM

John83 wrote: »

Just wanted to bump this. Should I go with an -8 hit or play the WC?

I don't particularly view Baines as a must have. He's been in the mix more in the past few weeks because Coleman has been out so more attacks have been going down the left channel. Coleman will be back for the next gameweek so the attacks will be more evenly mixed between left and right.

That being said, Baines will score well, but not enough to justify that price.

As for the rest of your transfers, it almost seems as if you're just rearranging the deck furniture, although getting Mannone and Welbeck in are shrewd moves imo.

alchemist33 · 08-10-2014 11:51AM

John83 wrote: »

Just wanted to bump this. Should I go with an -8 hit or play the WC?

I don't necessarily think the WC is justified. I presume you have another playing goalie and with Studge coming back I wouldn't rush Sterling out just yet. Also if you want to get Aguero, keeping Ulloa will facilitate that better than Welbeck.

Iused2likebusts · 08-10-2014 12:02PM

Weetabix wrote: »

Exactly what I was about to say, comparing ADM at Madriad to ADM at Utd is pointless in my opinion. He is the main man at Utd, everything goes through him whereas at Madrid you had Bale / Ronaldo / Benzema / Khedira / Alonso. At the moment I cannot see how anyone can argue he isn't a must have. That may change but I'll be suprised if he isn't in 99% of active teams soon!

I think its important to look at his goalscoring stats from past seasons to realise that his current 3 goals in 5 games isnt normal for him. I would put more scope on his career to date than the 5 games he has played for utd which were as easy a group of 5 games as he is going to face all season. Personally I think hazard and sanchez will outscore him from here on in so I dont view him as a must have. Im prepared to take him out for his run of 4 games che,city,pal and arsenal and reassess it then.
Myself and Swiper would have a similar approach to this game in that we are prepared to get players in before they hit form and are prepared to take players out or ignore players that are in form. Im not saying this is the correct approach as sometimes it backfires spectacularly i.e Ramsey and Yaya however other times it works.
I get what people are saying that everything is going through him at Utd but I still think that 5 games is too small a sample size and Id like to see what he can achieve in tougher games.

jive · 08-10-2014 12:21PM

Weetabix wrote: »

Exactly what I was about to say, comparing ADM at Madriad to ADM at Utd is pointless in my opinion. He is the main man at Utd, everything goes through him whereas at Madrid you had Bale / Ronaldo / Benzema / Khedira / Alonso. At the moment I cannot see how anyone can argue he isn't a must have. That may change but I'll be suprised if he isn't in 99% of active teams soon!

Had easy fixtures and 2 bad shots turned assists. Iirc united have at least 3 tough fixtures in their next 5, I'd rather have hazard who is on pens than ADM he's definitely not a must have

AdpRo · 08-10-2014 12:42PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think its important to look at his goalscoring stats from past seasons to realise that his current 3 goals in 5 games isnt normal for him. I would put more scope on his career to date than the 5 games he has played for utd which were as easy a group of 5 games as he is going to face all season. Personally I think hazard and sanchez will outscore him from here on in so I dont view him as a must have. Im prepared to take him out for his run of 4 games che,city,pal and arsenal and reassess it then.
Myself and Swiper would have a similar approach to this game in that we are prepared to get players in before they hit form and are prepared to take players out or ignore players that are in form. Im not saying this is the correct approach as sometimes it backfires spectacularly i.e Ramsey and Yaya however other times it works.
I get what people are saying that everything is going through him at Utd but I still think that 5 games is too small a sample size and Id like to see what he can achieve in tougher games.

I agree that 5 games is not enough of a sample size but until he stops scoring / assisting he is staying in my team no matter who the opposition. My point is that in previous seasons for Madrid he played as a winger supplying goals for Ronaldo et all whereas now he seems to have a free role and is on almost all corners / free kicks. I beleive that will lead to him scoring more than previous seasons.

I wish people would stop going on about lucky goals / assists for ADM as well, it doesn't matter how lucky they are he is still getting them, Yaya / Lukaka were getting lucky goals and assists last year and according to alot in here it wouldn't last!

John83 · 08-10-2014 12:46PM

AdMMM wrote: »

I don't particularly view Baines as a must have. He's been in the mix more in the past few weeks because Coleman has been out so more attacks have been going down the left channel. Coleman will be back for the next gameweek so the attacks will be more evenly mixed between left and right.

That being said, Baines will score well, but not enough to justify that price.

As for the rest of your transfers, it almost seems as if you're just rearranging the deck furniture, although getting Mannone and Welbeck in are shrewd moves imo.

That's how I'm beginning to feel.

alchemist33 wrote: »

I don't necessarily think the WC is justified. I presume you have another playing goalie and with Studge coming back I wouldn't rush Sterling out just yet. Also if you want to get Aguero, keeping Ulloa will facilitate that better than Welbeck.

I don't plan on getting Aguero in yet. I have Costa and Pelle and wanted to add Welbeck in to give him a chance, especially with their next few fixtures.

Maybe that's the move I should make then. Bring in Welbeck for Ulloa and take a -4 hit to replace Pieters. I've 6.8 to spend on his replacement. Any suggestions? I already have Terry, Taylor, Wisdom, van Aanholt.

8-10 · 08-10-2014 01:18PM

jive wrote: »

Had easy fixtures and 2 bad shots turned assists. Iirc united have at least 3 tough fixtures in their next 5, I'd rather have hazard who is on pens than ADM he's definitely not a must have

Thing about di Maria is he's getting big scores and easy price rises right now. Long term is a different story but it's an easy decision to jump abord the ADM wagon - especially with Ramsey out - and ride the wave while it's good, his price increases are consistent and will make it easier to move to another player if his points go down. I'm not buying any argument that he's not one of the best players to own these weeks.

I'd also prefer Hazard, even to Fabregas, but with Fab getting points and price rises there's no rush to make that move

Shanotheslayer · 08-10-2014 02:17PM

8-10 wrote: »

I'd also prefer Hazard, even to Fabregas,

I stopped reading there for some reason, and was like ''whatttt''' then I continued to read on! Good thing I did or else I would of been made an idiot :rolleyes:

AdMMM · 08-10-2014 02:23PM

Can anyone see any <6m midfielder increasing by .2 over the break? I brought in Schneiderlin early doors, have had him benched every week and enjoyed the price rises but I'm thinking of getting rid to make way for the next big thing... or just get in Boyd to bank a lot!

manual_man · 08-10-2014 02:30PM

AdMMM wrote: »

Can anyone see any <6m midfielder increasing by .2 over the break? I brought in Schneiderlin early doors, have had him benched every week and enjoyed the price rises but I'm thinking of getting rid to make way for the next big thing... or just get in Boyd to bank a lot!

You can bank even more by getting Isgrove (4.3), though don't expect much game time from him. There's no <6m mids that will go up by .2 (that i'm aware of)

joe123 · 08-10-2014 02:53PM

AdMMM wrote: »

Can anyone see any <6m midfielder increasing by .2 over the break? I brought in Schneiderlin early doors, have had him benched every week and enjoyed the price rises but I'm thinking of getting rid to make way for the next big thing... or just get in Boyd to bank a lot!

Downing maybe?

What site is the most accurate for deeming rises or are they still out of whack? Downing is is 6th highest on most transfers in today.

Gaillimh1976 · 08-10-2014 03:02PM

Ozil out for 10-12 weeks according to bbc sport

dahat · 08-10-2014 03:11PM

Gaillimh1976 wrote: »

Ozil out for 10-12 weeks according to bbc sport

Hello Mr Walcott.

Iused2likebusts · 08-10-2014 03:30PM

dahat wrote: »

Hello Mr Walcott.

That's someone I'd class a must have once fit.

AdMMM · 08-10-2014 03:40PM

Thankfully, in FF terms, Ozil only has a 3.5% ownership so there won't be a mass exodus like there was when Ramsey was injured.

dahat · 08-10-2014 03:58PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

That's someone I'd class a must have once fit.

Figuring out who to dump is my problem.

Pelle and Sterling out for Wellbeck or cheaper plus Walcott is where I am currently at.

Iused2likebusts · 08-10-2014 04:01PM

dahat wrote: »

Figuring out who to dump is my problem.

Pelle and Sterling out for Wellbeck or cheaper plus Walcott is where I am currently at.

It will be after the next international break mid nov before he is playing regularly I'd say .

Swiper the fox · 08-10-2014 04:02PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

That's someone I'd class a must have once fit.

Walcott is without doubt my favourite FPL player (and I'm a Spurs fan). I don't go in for the "essential" nonsense(barring Suarez last year and Costa this) but Walcott is an essential for me, I still don't see Wenger rushing him back or overplaying him though so it'll be a bit like walking a tightrope with him for a few weeks.

AdMMM · 08-10-2014 04:20PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Walcott is without doubt my favourite FPL player (and I'm a Spurs fan). I don't go in for the "essential" nonsense(barring Suarez last year and Costa this) but Walcott is an essential for me, I still don't see Wenger rushing him back or overplaying him though so it'll be a bit like walking a tightrope with him for a few weeks.

Yeah the risk is that no matter what you'll have to break away from what has become the template starting midfield of Febregas, Sterling, Di Maria and Siggy in order to fit him in. I haven't the slightest idea of who to drop... it was going to be Sterling, but once Sturridge is back, I think that's a gravy train I'd like to be on again!

Swiper the fox · 08-10-2014 04:46PM

AdMMM wrote: »

Yeah the risk is that no matter what you'll have to break away from what has become the template starting midfield of Febregas, Sterling, Di Maria and Siggy in order to fit him in. I haven't the slightest idea of who to drop... it was going to be Sterling, but once Sturridge is back, I think that's a gravy train I'd like to be on again!

please shoot me now:pac:, I only have Sterling and Siggy of that four and the other two won't be coming into my team in the short term.
I'm still waiting on Hazard to justify my confidence in him but I see my midfield as being(of course this will never happen in reality, things change quickly) Hazard, Sterling, Siggy and Walcott. The big three there I see as being fixture proof (though I hate the word), they are guys who make things happen and score lots of goals. If Pottechino would stop removing Eriksen after 65 minutes I would choose him over Siggy. I could probably afford that by going cheapie on my defence and goalies, something don't mind doing.

KevIRL · 08-10-2014 05:31PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

please shoot me now:pac:, I only have Sterling and Siggy of that four and the other two won't be coming into my team in the short term.
I'm still waiting on Hazard to justify my confidence in him but I see my midfield as being(of course this will never happen in reality, things change quickly) Hazard, Sterling, Siggy and Walcott. The big three there I see as being fixture proof (though I hate the word), they are guys who make things happen and score lots of goals. If Pottechino would stop removing Eriksen after 65 minutes I would choose him over Siggy. I could probably afford that by going cheapie on my defence and goalies, something don't mind doing.

Whats your team ID Swiper? Curious to have a look

Swiper the fox · 08-10-2014 05:51PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Whats your team ID Swiper? Curious to have a look

Don't pay any attention to my current rank now:o:p It'll be an awful lot healthier at the end of the year.:pac:

I won't post my ID but it's very easy to find, I'm in the FSA Premier league;)

My stubbornness has cost me already this year, for team value more than anything, I've missed out on most of the big risers so far because I just don't want them in my team. I trust my own judgement in this game.:cool:

SlickRic · 08-10-2014 06:10PM

Arsenal have decent games coming and they'll have no Ozil for 3 months, and no Ramsey for at least another couple of weeks.

Welbeck is an obvious way into their attack, but I'm seriously considering Cazorla as a potentially reliable differential midfielder.

Lemlin · 08-10-2014 06:38PM

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Don't pay any attention to my current rank now:o:p It'll be an awful lot healthier at the end of the year.:pac:

I won't post my ID but it's very easy to find, I'm in the FSA Premier league;

I heard there was a bit of a Newcastle style crisis after the drubbing from the Commandos.

Fans holding up "Swiper Out" signs and the like. It can't have been easy on your players.

08-10-2014 07:10PM

SlickRic wrote: »

Arsenal have decent games coming and they'll have no Ozil for 3 months, and no Ramsey for at least another couple.

Welbeck is an obvious way into their attack, but I'm seriously considering Cazorla as a potentially reliable differential midfielder.

Yeah, poor Cazorla barely ever gets a mention, though there is serious firepower with better scoring potential on his own team, never mind on other teams. One to keep an eye on, though.

Swiper the fox · 08-10-2014 07:12PM

Lemlin wrote: »

I heard there was a bit of a Newcastle style crisis after the drubbing from the Commandos.

Fans holding up "Swiper Out" signs and the like. It can't have been easy on your players.

The dog was well walked that week alright:pac:

Ace2007 · 08-10-2014 08:57PM

Liam O wrote: »

You buy Baines as an extra midfielder with the bonus of a chance at clean sheets. He takes FKs and penos. You can't compare Terry or Azpil to him in an attacking sense imo. Relying on CBs for goals is sketchy in general imo. They can have 4 or 5 goal seasons and not score that many in the next 3 seasons.

I'm not relying on CB's to get goals, I'm relying on them to keep CS and pick up the odd Bonus points. Chelsea are more likely to keep clean sheets than Everton.

Clean sheet = 4 points, assist = 3, therefore ideally you need Baines to get 2 assists or a goal if Everton concede, to better any clean sheet that Chelsea get. Given that Baines in 7m, and you can pick up a Chelsea defender for 6m and then spend the extra 1m elsewhere, I don't see Baines as must have.

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