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I don't know what your actual grá of LW is but there is no getting around that it is not the only way to receive RTE 1 in today's Ireland. Of the few parts of Ireland with inadequate FM coverage of RTE 1, and let us be honest in saying that we are talking small pockets of the population, it is still easily and freely available via other means, even if it means that your alarm clock or ghetto blaster can't receive it on LW :rolleyes:
As regards to your suggestion that masses of people and communities are solely reliant on LW or with every device tuned to 252, frankly that's just clutching at straws. If investment is to be made and money spent, well it's made on the new and not the old. To even suggest that a lack of LW will hinder businesses investment shows that you aren't at the races in this regard. Seriously.
PS; I've spent plenty of my life in the Mayo Gaeltacht and FM and phone signal was never an issue wherever I went
AwaitYourReply wrote: »Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but if you wanna go down this path, hey we can all adopt an abrupt tone!
Hardly surprising that this smart-ass remark just happens to come from someone in the Dublin area (no offence to intelligent Dubliners) where the FM and DAB both have strong reception signals. Not everyone has a TV Set in every room in the house but most households tend to have more radio sets via different devices from in-car radio, alarm clock radios, midi hi-fi systems, ghettoblasters and so on. Some of these devices are relatively light-weight which means they are "portable" and can be easily taken to different parts of the house or garage or outside.
Let me educate you further Losty as you have failed to grasp the issue despite many posts. In certain parts of Ireland that you clearly have little or no experience of there will be no DAB and the FM signal is virtually useless due to constant drop-out. In this day and age one would think it would not be an issue but it is a major problem.
Why would people in this situation who currently rely on Long Wave 252 be satisfied with what is being proposed if FM and/or DAB is either not reliable or available at all in their area or else it involves further investment and is more restrictive where they are based unlike the existing signal method which has worked pretty well. So, if it is cheaper to switch it off, then RTÉ Radio should have boosted their FM and DAB in these areas first ahead of a one month advance countdown to switch off of the Long Wave transmitter.
If you bothered to think and educate yourself about other Irish citizens who are living "outside the pale" you would quickly learn that in certain areas the infrastructure is well below par whether it be radio, broadband, mobile phone signal coverage and so on. Such investment in infrastructure would actually help the regions attract more business enterprises, foreign direct investment and jobs and ease the pressure and gridlock in the Dublin area as well but this would be smart thinking and too much to expect from the current administration. It's all about day to day and very little middle - long term planning.0 -
Losty Dublin wrote: »I don't know what your actual grá of LW is but there is no getting around that it is not the only way to receive RTE 1 in today's Ireland. Of the few parts of Ireland with inadequate FM coverage of RTE 1, and let us be honest in saying that we are talking small pockets of the population, it is still easily and freely available via other means, even if it means that your alarm clock or ghetto blaster can't receive it on LW :rolleyes:
As regards to your suggestion that masses of people and communities are solely reliant on LW or with every device tuned to 252, frankly that's just clutching at straws. If investment is to be made and money spent, well it's made on the new and not the old. To even suggest that a lack of LW will hinder businesses investment shows that you aren't at the races in this regard. Seriously.
PS; I've spent plenty of my life in the Mayo Gaeltacht and FM and phone signal was never an issue wherever I went
Ah Losty, you have misread my previous post again - I never said that a lack of LW will hinder businesses investment! They should have had a decent FM signal put in place and/or DAB in these areas before switching off LW. Otherwise keep LW going until they sort it first. My point was that due to the poor infrastructure already in place in certain areas of rural Ireland many are stuck relying on LW to hear RTÉ Radio One and now they intend cutting it off. The same areas often have slow dial-up Internet speeds, poor mobile phone signal coverage, many have zero Broadband altogether! I am fully aware LW is not the way of the future. Ah now, get with the programme as you look even more stupid when you are quoting mine back and you still fail to understand some very simple points raised :rolleyes:
To be honest I would be surprised if you have ever listened to RTÉ Radio One FM by choice. You were probably listening to another radio station on FM when you were in the Mayo Gaeltacht I suspect
As for the mobile phone signal, I wonder if you would find the same strength mobile phone signal coverage if you opt to switch mobile network – somehow I would doubt it very much! Just in case you are not aware, the Mayo Gaeltacht is only one part of rural Ireland - there are many other areas and I did say certain parts of rural Ireland rather than the whole of rural Ireland. I cannot understand how young people do not have the intelligence to understand that folk obsessed with LW252 just want to hear the channel in a clear flexible way. Many of these people are in their Over 60s and are not inclined use Internet or understand how to get radio in this way. Once it goes off LW (if they cannot hear Radio One on FM) they are restricted and become a lot more dependent on others to access the service each time for them via other methods.
In relation to RTÉ Radio on FM is I have often found that of all their channels on FM, the problem one is not RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ RnaG or RTÉ Lyric fm which all seem to come through fine most of the time - the one that is erratic is usually RTÉ Radio One on FM - the main national public service channel from RTÉ. If RTÉ Radio was serious about investing in new technology then they should have ensured that they had it all covered properly first. It was pointless moving this audience away from Medium Wave and over to Long Wave for a few years as this move was inevitable as it has been yesterday's technology for decades - even long before Internet/mobile phone communications became commercially available to the mass population here. At this rate, I would not be surprised if RTÉ Radio expanded their presence on DAB despite the complete disaster it has become in the UK given RTÉ's past form in this regard. Furthermore, RTÉ has always done little or nothing for the Irish diaspora living outside the state.
In the past RTÉ had a complete monopoly where Radio & TV were concerned in this state however; now that there is a whole host of independent commercial national, multi-city, quasi national, regional, local, community and hospital radio licences not to mention all the other international and internet radio channels, I think they are foolish in how they have handled the whole matter. To lose goodwill when there is now a hell of a lot of healthy and varied competition from at home and abroad is never a good idea.
P.S: RTÉ have certain responsibilities as the national Public Service Broadcaster in this state and they cannot (unlike commercial broadcasters such as: NewsTalk, Today FM, TV3 etc;) be solely concerned with ratings and audience share as they provide a "social service" to the nation and must adequately cater for minorities when introducing major changes too 0 -
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AwaitYourReply wrote: »Ah Losty, you have misread my previous post again - I never said that a lack of LW will hinder businesses investment! They should have had a decent FM signal put in place and/or DAB in these areas before switching off LW. Otherwise keep LW going until they sort it first. My point was that due to the poor infrastructure already in place in certain areas of rural Ireland many are stuck relying on LW to hear RTÉ Radio One and now they intend cutting it off. The same areas often have slow dial-up Internet speeds, poor mobile phone signal coverage, many have zero Broadband altogether! I am fully aware LW is not the way of the future. Ah now, get with the programme as you look even more stupid when you are quoting mine back and you still fail to understand some very simple points raised :rolleyes:
To be honest I would be surprised if you have ever listened to RTÉ Radio One FM by choice. You were probably listening to another radio station on FM when you were in the Mayo Gaeltacht I suspect As for the mobile phone signal, I wonder if you would find the same strength mobile phone signal coverage if you opt to switch mobile network – somehow I would doubt it very much! Just in case you are not aware, the Mayo Gaeltacht is only one part of rural Ireland - there are many other areas and I did say certain parts of rural Ireland rather than the whole of rural Ireland. I cannot understand how young people do not have the intelligence to understand that folk obsessed with LW252 just want to hear the channel in a clear flexible way. Many of these people are in their Over 60s and are not inclined use Internet or understand how to get radio in this way. Once it goes off LW (if they cannot hear Radio One on FM) they are restricted and become a lot more dependent on others to access the service each time for them via other methods.
In relation to RTÉ Radio on FM is I have often found that of all their channels on FM, the problem one is not RTÉ 2fm, RTÉ RnaG or RTÉ Lyric fm which all seem to come through fine most of the time - the one that is erratic is usually RTÉ Radio One on FM - the main national public service channel from RTÉ. If RTÉ Radio was serious about investing in new technology then they should have ensured that they had it all covered properly first. It was pointless moving this audience away from Medium Wave and over to Long Wave for a few years as this move was inevitable as it has been yesterday's technology for decades - even long before Internet/mobile phone communications became commercially available to the mass population here. At this rate, I would not be surprised if RTÉ Radio expanded their presence on DAB despite the complete disaster it has become in the UK given RTÉ's past form in this regard. Furthermore, RTÉ has always done little or nothing for the Irish diaspora living outside the state.
In the past RTÉ had a complete monopoly where Radio & TV were concerned in this state however; now that there is a whole host of independent commercial national, multi-city, quasi national, regional, local, community and hospital radio licences not to mention all the other international and internet radio channels, I think they are foolish in how they have handled the whole matter. To lose goodwill when there is now a hell of a lot of healthy and varied competition from at home and abroad is never a good idea.
P.S: RTÉ have certain responsibilities as the national Public Service Broadcaster in this state and they cannot (unlike commercial broadcasters such as: NewsTalk, Today FM, TV3 etc;) be solely concerned with ratings and audience share as they provide a "social service" to the nation and must adequately cater for minorities when introducing major changes too
What a nasty, insulting post.0 -
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