Windows 10

dreamers75 · 01-10-2014 9:29pm #1

Anyone planning on making the jump from 7 to 10?

I will stick with 7 as long as possible unless 10 improves on 7 somehow. I starting to think Msft only make a decent OS every 2nd time or so.

Im sure they will offer DX17 or something as a W10 only option.

Out today on Insider if anyone on it, havent been arsed downloading it.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/join-windows-insider-program-tomorrow-and-gain-access-pre-release-builds-windows-10

degrassinoel · 01-10-2014 9:41pm

if it's as bad as 8 was i'll pass - the same way i passed on winMe, 2k XP and vista in favour of 98 for donkeys years

ShadowHearth · 01-10-2014 11:46pm

Too early to say. If its good, I will jump on it from 7. Most likely I will get a brand new ssd with though as my OS ssd is only 60gb.

Overheal · 02-10-2014 2:25am

Windows 8 already loads faster than 7 and doesn't appear to run games any less poorly. You can be guaranteed Dx12 won't be supported by Windows 7, Microsoft has purposefully made no statement about it one way or another and this close to a new OS launch - yeah, its not happening.

Robert ninja · 02-10-2014 5:56am

Microsoft been dun' goofing a lot lately. W10 will have what? Ctrl+V in command prompt? Uh... thanks? And finally auto detects whether or not to load the dumb ass touch screen interface or desktop mode based on hardware? Well that is extremely basic and should've been in W8.

The fact that W7/8 aren't getting DX12 but W10 and the bloody Xbox One are really shows MC don't give a feck about us.

I feel no real rush to get W10, hell I've been considering dual booting to Linux and only using windows for gaming.

Dcully · 02-10-2014 12:42pm

Windows 8.1 is great, i dont use the tile bull**** so its a turbo version of windows 7 to me as it operates exactly the same once you bypass the metro tile crap apart from games performing better,no going back to 7 after 8.

Shiminay · 02-10-2014 12:44pm

I'm running Win 8.1 since I got an SSD earlier this year and have no problems with it once I installed Classic Shell to get that utterly pointless Metro interface. I also needed to remove the fullscreen Skype app, it was just awful having things take over full screens and not letting me have actual WINDOWS of info (and this is a man with 3 screens, I wasn't stuck for places to put it).

I'm not fussed about Win 10, but it was nice to see them acknowledge just how annoying and poorly thought out their design and UI decisions were with Win 8 for those of us who didn't run out to buy a Surface (which is by all accounts a brilliant bit of kit to give them their dues).

Baked.noodle · 02-10-2014 1:51pm

I'm on 7. I would like to be able to change my sound output using a hot key, as I change it frequently depending on the content I'm using. It's a pain to have to click the Sound manager and select Playback devices, select the output and click the Set default button. I would also like a shortcut to swap the Desktop from one display to the other. My screens aren't beside each other. It can be done now but you have to cycle through the options on the screen I can't currently see and select the other screen. Just let me keep hitting the shortcut until I get the desired result. I hope I can have a separate Desktop on each screen on 10. I would also like them to fix auto sleep/hibernation. Every now and then I wake to find my PC didn't sleep as it was configured to, such as after media has finished playing.

weisses · 02-10-2014 2:07pm

If I can get a cheap enough upgrade I will probably get Windows 10 (7 atm)

dreamers75 · 02-10-2014 2:45pm

Baked.noodle wrote: »

I'm on 7. I would like to be able to change my sound output using a hot key, as I change it frequently depending on the content I'm using. It's a pain to have to click the Sound manager and select Playback devices, select the output and click the Set default button. I would also like a shortcut to swap the Desktop from one display to the other. My screens aren't beside each other. It can be done now but you have to cycle through the options on the screen I can't currently see and select the other screen. Just let me keep hitting the shortcut until I get the desired result. I hope I can have a separate Desktop on each screen on 10. I would also like them to fix auto sleep/hibernation. Every now and then I wake to find my PC didn't sleep as it was configured to, such as after media has finished playing.

You can do that with the sound, I have it set as my PC is beside the Main TV so handy swap when watching movies.

When I get home later I will post how to do it.

You can also switch monitors its windows key Left and Right (handy for moving programs between monitors. But the below makes that useless as it remembers what screen you want programs to be on.

For the dual monitor I would suggest this

http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-extend-task-bar-across-multiple-monitors-in-windows-7/

Quite handy.

Nody · 02-10-2014 2:49pm

weisses wrote: »

If I can get a cheap enough upgrade I will probably get Windows 10 (7 atm)

Same here but I might wait until next major PC upgrade (a year or two down the line) to get the worst bugs out of the way.

Baked.noodle · 02-10-2014 2:52pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

You can do that with the sound, I have it set as my PC is beside the Main TV so handy swap when watching movies.

When I get home later I will post how to do it.

You can also switch monitors its windows key Left and Right (handy for moving programs between monitors. But the below makes that useless as it remembers what screen you want programs to be on.

For the dual monitor I would suggest this

http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-extend-task-bar-across-multiple-monitors-in-windows-7/

Quite handy.

If you could let me know that would be cool. I heard they purposely gimped the sound control for some reason or another.

If I hold the Win Key and use the arrows it moves the selected program to the other screen. I want the entire desktop to move. I'll look at the link you posted as it would seem to offer a solution. Thanks.

Shiminay · 02-10-2014 3:14pm

Baked.noodle wrote: »

I'm on 7. I would like to be able to change my sound output using a hot key, as I change it frequently depending on the content I'm using. It's a pain to have to click the Sound manager and select Playback devices, select the output and click the Set default button. I would also like a shortcut to swap the Desktop from one display to the other. My screens aren't beside each other. It can be done now but you have to cycle through the options on the screen I can't currently see and select the other screen. Just let me keep hitting the shortcut until I get the desired result. I hope I can have a separate Desktop on each screen on 10. I would also like them to fix auto sleep/hibernation. Every now and then I wake to find my PC didn't sleep as it was configured to, such as after media has finished playing.

A friend of mine linked me to this but I haven't had a chance to run it myself. http://soundswitch.codeplex.com/ It's for assigning specific apps to specific sound outputs, so I can send a game to my headphones whilst sending the audio from Media Player Classic to my surround speakers etc.

justjustin · 02-10-2014 3:22pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

if it's as bad as 8 was i'll pass - the same way i passed on winMe, 2k XP and vista in favour of 98 for donkeys years

What's wrong with Windows 8/8.1? Great OS IMO.

davo2001 · 02-10-2014 3:58pm

justjustin wrote: »

What's wrong with Windows 8/8.1? Great OS IMO.

Someone heard from someone they know that their cousin said it was crap, so you know, it must be!

Baked.noodle · 02-10-2014 4:23pm

I think the reason most people dislike 8 is because desktops are designed for use with a mouse. M$ made a critical error by insisting people use an interface designed for touch with a mouse. Even if you have a touch enabled laptop, it feel's impractical to move from a touch pad to a touch screen on the fly. The whole thing is even more absurd when you take Win RT into account, which was designed to run on tablets powered by ARM processors instead of x86 processors. RT was an OS for tablets that is incompatible with desktops so making two different OS for tablets and laptops/desktops but forcing everybody to use a touch interface is just silly. Of course, using third party software you could add a more traditional interface but the whole project was tarnished by the impracticality of it. Sometimes I think M$ market poor OS's just to fix problems that shouldn't need to be fixed for the next release.

justjustin · 02-10-2014 5:06pm

Baked.noodle wrote: »

Of course, using third party software you could add a more traditional interface but the whole project was tarnished by the impracticality of it.

I just find it funny when people say that it's a crap OS on tech or gaming forums and that the majority of the time, when asked, their reason is that they don't like the start menu, which can be replaced by installing one free, open source program.
I find it performs better than Windows 7 for me and has some features built in natively that negate the need for 3rd party apps to be installed to add functionality, e.g. mounting ISOs, SSD Trim
I realise of course that a lot of people may be unaware of the likes of Classic Shell, but on a tech or PC gaming forum, I think it's a little unfair to class the OS on the whole as 'crap' because of a feature that can easily be replaced and never seen again.

dreamers75 · 02-10-2014 5:10pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

NOTE:

This is PC Gaming, folks.
Feel free to compare operating systems in the appropriate forum - Cheers.

And what do Gaming PCs run on?

DX is kind a big thing with PC Gaming......

Baked.noodle · 02-10-2014 5:24pm

Seeing as we are relocated, I'll just add that M$ could have addressed the issue with an option for a more traditional interface in 8.1, but choose instead to flog the horse until the next big release. Poor show IMO.

Fysh · 02-10-2014 6:10pm

I'm sure I read somewhere that there was a plan to introduce an option to change the shell on certain platforms - IIRC it was something like Windows Server wouldn't be getting the Modern UI, desktop users would have the choice of whether to use it or not (possibly laptop too, depending on the hardware I suppose) and tablets would be forced onto Modern UI (though tbh I have a windows 8 tablet and the UI is really good there - I've got an active stylus as I anticipated needing it, but I only ever use it for drawing).

Thus far the Enterprise tech preview is nice but barring PowerShell 5 I've not seen any substantial differences aside from changing the Start Screen into a tiled version of the Windows 7 Start Menu. I'm hoping Windows Store app updates can be integrated into Windows Update - I know there are some group polices governing app updates, but it's a bit of a faff having Windows Update for the OS & MS desktop apps, then the Windows Store for apps. A centralised mechanism for controlling updates would be useful.

Overheal · 02-10-2014 6:31pm

Baked.noodle wrote: »

Seeing as we are relocated, I'll just add that M$ could have addressed the issue with an option for a more traditional interface in 8.1, but choose instead to flog the horse until the next big release. Poor show IMO.

Uh... The move from 8/8.1 to 10 is going to be incredibly cheap: it will definitely be a free update to anyone who bought a retail license of either 8 or 8.1 and the price for OEM or 7 upgrades is not yet clear but its rumored it may be free for OEM 8/8.1 as well, or sufficiently stupidly cheap. Like in the order of $20.

Baked.noodle · 02-10-2014 9:22pm

Overheal wrote: »

Uh... The move from 8/8.1 to 10 is going to be incredibly cheap: it will definitely be a free update to anyone who bought a retail license of either 8 or 8.1 and the price for OEM or 7 upgrades is not yet clear but its rumored it may be free for OEM 8/8.1 as well, or sufficiently stupidly cheap. Like in the order of $20.

That may be so, but to be honest I think a lot of mainstream customers have put up with this bad design long enough. I imagine if it wasn't free many people would be looking for an alternative OS for their next PC/Laptop. It sure makes Mac look better. It should be obvious to anybody who has been computing for at least the naughties that the UI in Win 8 was a ridiculous design and did very little for PC's in general. Nobody could seriously choose Win 8 in a business environment, so the whole charade was never going to fly this time.

Overheal · 03-10-2014 1:37am

Mac might 'look' better, but it's still only available on Apple hardware and has a string of limitations for enterprises that I can only guess at frankly; the cost of migrating a business from windows to mac would be surely horrifying

Fysh · 03-10-2014 10:45am

Baked.noodle wrote: »

That may be so, but to be honest I think a lot of mainstream customers have put up with this bad design long enough. I imagine if it wasn't free many people would be looking for an alternative OS for their next PC/Laptop. It sure makes Mac look better. It should be obvious to anybody who has been computing for at least the naughties that the UI in Win 8 was a ridiculous design and did very little for PC's in general. Nobody could seriously choose Win 8 in a business environment, so the whole charade was never going to fly this time.

The Win8 UI was part of a strategy to unify the underlying codebase across various MS platforms. I think they didn't plan correctly (WinRT is pointless and should have basically been skipped in place of Windows Phone 8, and on non-touch systems the Modern UI should be optional) but as one responsible for not only using but rolling out Windows 8 in my last workplace I can assure you that it's not the fiasco many such as yourself insist on proclaiming. Some suitable customisation via domain-level group policy, a little bit of end user training and at most a 1-page cheatsheet on what's new and on you go. Only very foolhardy enterprises would jump from Windows to OS X on a whim; there are all sorts of hidden costs to any such transitions and in any case from a professional perspective there are downsides to going with Mac (ever tried to get a guaranteed next-day repair from Apple, much less guaranteed next-day onsite? I have, and it makes collecting rocking horse poop look easy).

Now, businesses who need to get applications ratified for compliance reasons might not be entirely happy with the "Is 8.1 a service pack or not?" question, but that's very different.

Baked.noodle · 03-10-2014 11:44am

I didn't say business users would switch to Mac. I said some mainstream users would find Mac more attractive after using Win 8 for the last couple of years. Then I made the point that M$ had to "fix" Win 9 because Professionals wouldn't use 8 in a serious environment by patching in a third party interface, so Win 9 had to have the start button/menu.

200motels · 03-10-2014 2:25pm

davo2001 wrote: »

Someone heard from someone they know that their cousin said it was crap, so you know, it must be!

Well I've used 8/8.1 and have it as a triple boot with 7 and now 10 tech preview and it's poor enough, I only have it because my 11 year old likes it, as for 10 I actually like it, it's what 8.1 should have been and as it's in beta it can only get better, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more to make me switch from 7.

Overheal · 03-10-2014 6:59pm

You'll switch. The only thing holding people back is Start, and that is addressed.

Fysh · 03-10-2014 10:52pm

Baked.noodle wrote: »

I didn't say business users would switch to Mac. I said some mainstream users would find Mac more attractive after using Win 8 for the last couple of years. Then I made the point that M$ had to "fix" Win 9 because Professionals wouldn't use 8 in a serious environment by patching in a third party interface, so Win 9 had to have the start button/menu.

Depends on what kind of professional you mean - working with Windows infrastructure I found that the massive increase in PowerShell functionality in Windows 8/8.1 more than made up for the small time required to learn how to tweak the Modern UI interface to suit me.

Having said that, I'd be very interested in seeing figures about the uptake of 8 in the corporate environment. We're a little over 5 years on from Windows 7 launching, and I'd normally expect that to mean that most BigCo type environments would now be most of the way through migrating to 7 as the standard platform, and any jump to 8/8.1 would probably not start for another year yet. (This is based on what I saw with 2K, XP and Vista while working support for a multinational a few years ago).

200motels · 03-10-2014 11:44pm

Overheal wrote: »

You'll switch. The only thing holding people back is Start, and that is addressed.

I probably will switch as I said I like it a lot, hopefully it won't be expensive to switch from 7.

_Kaiser_ · 04-10-2014 12:33am

Overheal wrote: »

Uh... The move from 8/8.1 to 10 is going to be incredibly cheap: it will definitely be a free update to anyone who bought a retail license of either 8 or 8.1 and the price for OEM or 7 upgrades is not yet clear but its rumored it may be free for OEM 8/8.1 as well, or sufficiently stupidly cheap. Like in the order of $20.

Actually what I'd be interested in is an option to buy/license it in the same way as you can get Office through the Office.com/365 model.

For my tenner per month I can install the full Office suite on up to 5 machines/users, get increased OneDrive space for each user, Office on mobile and importantly any updates or new versions are included as well.

If I could get Windows 10 under the same model/price structure I'd probably go for it... I change/reload machines a lot and this would suit me a lot better.

54kroc · 04-10-2014 10:41am

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Actually what I'd be interested in is an option to buy/license it in the same way as you can get Office through the Office.com/365 model.

For my tenner per month I can install the full Office suite on up to 5 machines/users, get increased OneDrive space for each user, Office on mobile and importantly any updates or new versions are included as well.

If I could get Windows 10 under the same model/price structure I'd probably go for it... I change/reload machines a lot and this would suit me a lot better.

That's actually a pretty good idea, office is very good value at the moment for what you get. I get a lot of use out of the 1tb Onedrive and the Skype is handy.
Going down the subscription route might cut down on Windows piracy as well by not charging a bigger amount up front.

Baked.noodle · 04-10-2014 10:49am

The subscription sounds good for business, but I guess that would make the life span of the OS's shorter overall. I imagine it would be update after update instead of Win X and then Y and then Z... I suppose radical change would be slower as Corporates might have to update regularly for security reasons but wouldn't like surprises. It would just be Windows Forever, forever....

Overheal · 04-10-2014 3:17pm

yeah but thats also good for regular consumers, particularly ones who get ingrained with one OS and run it into the ground. And then the new one comes along theyre forced into and they scream bloody murder because its so different. But its not. Vista looked different to XP, 7 was the 8.1 of Vista, etc. and if they just followed along with updates they wouldnt be this lost.

PropJoe10 · 04-10-2014 6:31pm

They should make this a very cheap, if not free, upgrade from Windows 7. Its a great opportunity to ensure that Windows 7 doesnt become the new Windows XP for Microsoft.

04-10-2014 10:33pm

The problem I could see with a rental model for Windows, such as with Office 365, is what would happen when you stop paying the subscription? Would the OS stop booting?

paulheu · 04-10-2014 10:37pm

Anyone claiming WIN8 is no good basically proves himself to be a parrot and clueless. By making these nonsense claims you are also basically saying you are not using WIN8 so really have no idea what you are talking about.

WIN8 is fine and has been from the start. It got even better over the past two years. I really have not had any problems with it and installed the WIN10 TP as it became available without any issues.

04-10-2014 10:45pm

Have been using Windows 8 since 2012 and it really is a good OS if people would just spend some time with it.

I had a conversation with someone before who I showed Windows 8 for the first time and here is how it went:

Me: This is Windows 8, its got a number of improvements and is much faster.
Mr X: Ok, where is the start button
Me: They removed that but you don't really need it once you spend a little time with it.
Mr X: But why did they remove the start button?
Me: They just did, you can download a free program to bring back the start button if you want.
Mr X: I don't like that they have removed the start button.
Mr X: What are these things? (referring to the metro tiles)
Me: Those are various apps you can use.
Mr X: I don't like those
Me: You don't have to use them, they are there if you want to use them.
Mr X: Nah, I don't like all these changes. Its crap
Me: (sigh, I give up)

Its conversations like this that prove people just won't give it a chance because it looks different to the previous versions of Windows. People are fixated on the fact that there is no start button and can not see past that.

paulheu · 04-10-2014 10:48pm

^^ THIS ^^

It's also real depressing that while WIN10 is really bringing some seriously innovative and new ideas and features to the table way too many people seem to only talk about how the start menu is back..

I'm just real thankful I can keep it disabled in favour of the start menu.

04-10-2014 10:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Its conversations like this that prove people just won't give it a chance because it looks different to the previous versions of Windows. People are fixated on the fact that there is no start button and can not see past that.

Yet the same people would be the type to say "screw this, I'm getting a Mac", then have to deal with another learning curve. I'm blue in the face telling people to unpin the Metro stuff if they don't want it.

Zascar · 04-10-2014 11:22pm

Guys I'm getting this error when trying to upgrade from Win 8.1 - any idea how to get around it or do i have to do a clean wipe?

04-10-2014 11:30pm

Zascar wrote: »

Guys I'm getting this error when trying to upgrade from Win 8.1 - any idea how to get around it or do i have to do a clean wipe?

Are you booting from the DVD?

Normally you'd get this message if you boot from the DVD and attempt an upgrade; you have to run setup.exe from the DVD within your current version of Windows.

Zascar · 05-10-2014 12:39am

Karsini wrote: »

Are you booting from the DVD?

Normally you'd get this message if you boot from the DVD and attempt an upgrade; you have to run setup.exe from the DVD within your current version of Windows.

Ahhhhhhh.. I was booting from USB, but ok I did not know this. Can you do the same with USB? I'm now trying to do a clean install from the USB, formatted the hard drive. But now I'm getting a message after the first restart of the install, saying no boot device available. Help!

05-10-2014 12:47am

Zascar wrote: »

Ahhhhhhh.. I was booting from USB, but ok I did not know this. Can you do the same with USB? I'm now trying to do a clean install from the USB, formatted the hard drive. But now I'm getting a message after the first restart of the install, saying no boot device available. Help!

Check your partitions on the disk, make sure they're marked as active if MBR. Do you know if the system is doing a UEFI or BIOS ("legacy") boot?

Overheal · 05-10-2014 4:58am

I mean, just pointing out Z, that's exactly what the error tells you to do: boot from within windows :P

Stuxnet · 05-10-2014 11:20am

For those that didn’t bother to read the terms of service and privacy policy of W10 TP. :cool:

This week Microsoft announced the next version of its Operating system, dubbed WIndows 10, providing Windows 10 Technical Preview release under its "Insider Program" in order to collect feedback from users and help shape the final version of the operating system, but something really went WRONG!
“Inside Microsoft’s Insider Program you'll get all the latest Windows preview builds as soon as they're available. In return, we want to know what you think. You’ll get an easy-to-use app to give us your feedback, which will help guide us along the way.” Microsoft website reads.
Well, how many of you actually read the “Terms of Service” and “Privacy Policy” documents before downloading the Preview release of Windows 10? I guess none of you, because most computer users have habit of ignoring that lengthy paragraphs and simply click "I Agree" and then "next", which is not at all a good practise.
Do you really know what permissions you have granted to Microsoft by installing Free Windows 10 Technical Preview edition? Of Course, YOU DON’T. Well, guess what, you've all but signed away your soul !!

PERMISSION TO KEYLOG

If you are unaware of Microsoft’s privacy policy, so now you should pay attention to what the policy says. Microsoft is watching your every move on the latest Windows 10 Technical Preview, Thanks to portions of Microsoft's privacy policy, which indicates that the technology giant is using keylogger to collect and use users’ data in a variety of astounding ways without the user being aware.
“If you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes any use [of] it for purposes such as improving performance, or [if you] enter text, we may collect typed characters, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spell check features,” the privacy policy states.
Essentially by accepting the Windows 10 privacy policy you are allowing Microsoft to screen your files and log your keystrokes. This means, if you open a file and type, Microsoft have access to what you type, and the file info within.
This could likely one of the reasons why the company insisted that Windows Technical Preview not be installed on computers that are used every day.

OTHER DATA COLLECTION

But Wait! Wait! Not just this, Microsoft says it may collect even more data. The company will be watching your apps for compatibility, and collect voice information when you use speech to text. This information will be used to improve speech processing, according to Microsoft.
"When you acquire, install and use the Program, Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks," the privacy policy states. "Examples of data we collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage."
Though, technology companies continue to develop a fine line on the issue of privacy and data collection and based on the information which the Microsoft collects, it could have thousands of username and password combinations stored in a database somewhere. But we may well see a public feedback to this newest attempt to mine users data.
However, it is clearly known that they are not going to use those data to access users’ bank accounts or company's private network, but the fact that the company is collecting data by all means, could possibly open a way for someone to steal and misuse the information for their own purpose.
Although the feedback being collected in the Windows Technical Preview will only occur within the Technical Preview period, reported by WinBeta. Once Windows 10 launches to the public as RTM, the data Microsoft collects will be removed from the operating system.

http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html

paulheu · 05-10-2014 11:28am

This is not news and not a secret. If you feel this is unacceptable I strongly urge you stop using anything related to the internet, Google, Apple and several other companies.

From the outset MSFT has made it very clear that this preview is intended for them to gather information on how it performs and under what conditions it performs a certain way. That's the whole idea of this preview. If you do not agree with that then do not use it.

Oh and they also VERY clearly stated this preview is NOT made available with the end user in mind. Obviously they know it will be used en mass by that exact group but they told you this is not really for you (yet).

Stuxnet · 05-10-2014 2:24pm

Ha I love the tone directed at me, like I was one silly end user. If you read my comment, this was directed at those that didn't bother to read the TOCs, No fear of me bucko, I am a root administrator on one of the worlds most powerful top 20 supercomputer clusters. You needn't urge me to do anything. You sound like a fanboy.

PropJoe10 · 05-10-2014 2:46pm

Stuxnet wrote: »

Ha I love the tone directed at me, like I was one silly end user. If you read my comment, this was directed at those that didn't bother to read the TOCs, No fear of me bucko, I am a root administrator on one of the worlds most powerful top 20 supercomputer clusters. You needn't urge me to do anything. You sound like a fanboy.

Do you have a t-shirt saying that, and maybe a shiny crown?

Zascar · 05-10-2014 3:34pm

Overheal wrote: »

I mean, just pointing out Z, that's exactly what the error tells you to do: boot from within windows :P

I know, doh. Did not read it properly. Anyway after a lot of fiddling I got it. I had to change my boot to legacy.

vibe666 · 05-10-2014 3:43pm

Dcully wrote: »

Windows 8.1 is great, i dont use the tile bull**** so its a turbo version of windows 7 to me as it operates exactly the same once you bypass the metro tile crap apart from games performing better,no going back to 7 after 8.

ditto, running 8 and then 8.1 since they were released and aside from one or two niggles initially which i've since ironed out, it's easily as fast as win7 in day to day use (some games even perform better) and boots much faster.

add the classic start menu and you've basically got a faster version of windows 7 with a bit more polish.

paulheu · 05-10-2014 4:09pm

Stuxnet wrote: »

Ha I love the tone directed at me, like I was one silly end user.

No fear of me bucko, I am a root administrator on one of the worlds most powerful top 20 supercomputer clusters.

You needn't urge me to do anything. You sound like a fanboy.

1. You act like you are

2. Who gives a cr*p, if it makes you feel any better enjoy it..

3. Probably been in the business and around computers since before you were just a string of genes in your daddies ball sack so I'd watch your foot before it lands in your mouth again..

These T&C reflect the use if the feedback mechanism in the preview for which they make perfect and complete sense. The usual suspects seem to be trying to make much more out of them then what they are and you as this "super-duper-experienced-wannabe-important-deskjockey-sitting-behind-a terminal-connected-to-a-big-computer-to-compensate-for-other-shortcomings" guy just flatout fall for the sensation seeking article posted.

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