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AC/DC New album and Tour.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭afro man


    Please play somewhere I can afford to go
    Please play somewhere I can afford to go
    Please play somewhere I can afford to go

    Repeat to fade

    start saving now :) they are worth every penny to see them live


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 curfumsarinn


    afro man wrote: »
    start saving now :) they are worth every penny to see them live

    Dont worry, seen 'em twice already, Point and Punchestown a few years ago. This time around I'll go wherever I have to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    Album 1st of December, new song this week.
    I'd never have thunk it. Losing Bon was one thing. Losing Malcolm entirely another.

    Still, if the rest of the band feel they can play and enjoy it, why not keep the show on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭afro man


    Dont worry, seen 'em twice already, Point and Punchestown a few years ago. This time around I'll go wherever I have to[/QUOTE

    seen them many year ago in the RDS Back in the 80's For those about to rock tour and the point in the early 90's and punchestown also that was some show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    I doubt it really. Likely they'll be touring with their own stages and heaps of gear like last few tours. Completely impractical to bring it to Glastonbury, they brought their own stage to Download in 2010 but that was on third pass of Europe on Black Ice tour.

    They make more money doing their own stadium shows too. And it's much easier for a band to headline a load of festivals or do a string of their own stadium shows in Europe, doing a mix of both in one tour complicates things.

    Can see them doing more festivals in future, but I'll be surprised they do any before doing their shows following the albums release.

    Surely that could be said about U2 and Metallica when they headlined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭poundhound


    Didn't Brian Johnson confirm that Ireland would feature on the next tour?
    Im sure I seen that recently.

    Seen them 5 times...

    The Point 1991
    Donington, UK 1991
    The Point 1996
    The O2 2009
    Puncestown 2009


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    ush wrote: »
    Surely that could be said about U2 and Metallica when they headlined.

    U2 weren't touring Europe with that massive stage at the time though, they'd expressed interest themselves in wanting to play it and were willing to play on the pyramid stage. Of course that could happen with AC/DC too though, there just hasn't been any rumoured interest in them wanting too AFAIK.

    And Metallica were playing European festivals all Summer so would have required no special plans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 curfumsarinn


    In 2009 I remember it was murder trying to get tickets for the Point; if I remember right, i joined the fan club (officially) the day before, in order to have access to a certain number of tickets. Most of my buddies who would have gone couldnt get tickets. And then Punchestown came as a bit of a surprise later in the year - and everyone got to go. The Point show was a religious experience - Punchestown was no comparison.

    This time out, I guess the Point would be great again, but who knows - if they have a stadium tour in mind, they'd fill Croke Park, or the Aviva, or maybe come down and play our local GAA pitch - they could all stay in my gaff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭poundhound


    Lord Henry Mountcharles desperately wants them for Slane.

    The planets may align next summer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    poundhound wrote: »
    Lord Henry Mountcharles desperately wants them for Slane.

    The planets may align next summer?

    Hopefully not, Slane is a nightmare of a venue. I said AC/DC are the only band I'd ever return to Slane for, but I'd rather go somewhere, anywhere, else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    infacteh wrote: »
    Hopefully not, Slane is a nightmare of a venue. I said AC/DC are the only band I'd ever return to Slane for, but I'd rather go somewhere, anywhere, else!

    From what I've read/heard things are planned out alot better nowadays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    I had a horrendous experience at Oasis a few years ago, and I worked at Eminem last year - different experience, but it seemed to still have a lot of the same problems!

    It's in a terrible location, boarded by a river with a narrow bridge on one side, and a small village on the other side, and the entrance is through a narrow bohereen. It's not that close to a motorway, and there's no rail service to it.

    Punchestown, on the other hand, is close to a motorway, and has plenty of space, and access, on all sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    From what I've read/heard things are planned out alot better nowadays.

    There have been slight improvements, but it's a terrible place to get in and out of, probably the worst I've ever experienced.

    AC/DC are one of the few bands that would make me drag myself back there, but like someone said already, I really hope I don't have to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    IF AC/DC were to come to Ireland next year, they'd be better off playing in Croke Park or the Aviva.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    infacteh wrote: »

    Punchestown, on the other hand, is close to a motorway, and has plenty of space, and access, on all sides.

    I take it you weren't at their last gig there? An absolute nightmare both getting to and out of there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    I take it you weren't at their last gig there? An absolute nightmare both getting to and out of there.

    I was, and it was a hell of a lot better than my Slane experiences!

    Either way, it's AC ****ing DC, I'll walk barefoot to Cork to see them play if I have to!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Was so glad to have seen them in the 02/point/ whatever it's name is. The journey to and from Punchstown still annoys me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭sentient_6


    Was so glad to have seen them in the 02/point/ whatever it's name is. The journey to and from Punchstown still annoys me.

    Three arena. :pac: was at that and punchstown, thought punchstown was better for shear energy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    There's about a minute of the new song here. Sounds, as you'd expect.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭colmufc


    There's about a minute of the new song here. Sounds, as you'd expect.


    I like it , and I have to say I loved black ice so this sounds quite good to me


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,779 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Malcolm's officially done :(

    www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/11119755/Malcolm-Young-has-left-ACDC.html

    Edit: I've just realised this article is not to dissimilar to the one posted on the previous page, also read he has been admitted to a home for dementia suffers in Sydney, pretty sad stuff if true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Malcolm's officially done :(

    www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/11119755/Malcolm-Young-has-left-ACDC.html

    Edit: I've just realised this article is not to dissimilar to the one posted on the previous page, also read he has been admitted to a home for dementia suffers in Sydney, pretty sad stuff if true.

    It's desperately sad for him, his, and the fans of the band. Sad to think that he may not be able to look back on a long and storied career and feel satisfaction because it's all been wiped from his mind.

    I've seen some commentary that it was the drink that did it. He's been sober for over 25 years as far as I know...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭ush


    briany wrote: »
    I've seen some commentary that it was the drink that did it. He's been sober for over 25 years as far as I know...:rolleyes:

    Time does these things. Our bodies will eventually betray every one of us. Those comments are people finding scapegoats, so they don't have to acknowledge their own fate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    We know the reason behind Malcolm's exit from AC/DC,

    http://loudwire.com/acdc-malcolm-young-stroke-dementia/
    ''The newspaper The Australian reports that Malcolm suffered a stroke last year, as the Sydney Morning Herald proclaims that the guitarist is currently suffering from serious dementia.Both newspapers report that Malcolm is currently in full-time care at a nursing home facility called the Lulworth House in Elizabeth Bay in suburban Sydney, Australia. A source close to the band tells the Sydney Morning Herald, “If you were in the room with Malcolm and walked out, then came back in one minute later, he wouldn’t remember who you are. He has a complete loss of short-term memory.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 536 ✭✭✭colmufc


    That's dreadfully sad ,I don't think there is much that can be said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RayCon


    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    A complete loss of short term memory. That's terrible. It's like a real life version of Memento or something. I wonder does that mean that he's still able to remember important people in his life? At least that would be something. The heartbreaker of dementia is when people you've known your entire life look at you like you're a stranger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    I hope that he receives the best care and that the media leave him and his family in peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    Just watched the 'Behind the Music' doc of AC/DC done around the time of SUL. Malcolm interviews very well in his clips. Seems a decent guy who overcame booze demons and get into a good place. Real shame about the illness. He won't even be able to enjoy the memories.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,779 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I read a biography on the band and Malcolm comes across as a dictator with a 'either do things my way or get the f*ck out' attitude, but there's no doubt he knew what he was doing cos they wouldn't have lasted 40 odd years if he was an eejit, Bon called him the brain for a reason.

    This is a great piece written on him this week www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/sep/24/acdc-malcolm-young-master-of-discipline-and-economy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,956 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Strong rumours 2 dates next year in Croke Park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Strong rumours 2 dates next year in Croke Park.

    Only 2? Sure why not go for 5. That'll go down a treat with the locals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    I read a biography on the band and Malcolm comes across as a dictator with a 'either do things my way or get the f*ck out' attitude, but there's no doubt he knew what he was doing cos they wouldn't have lasted 40 odd years if he was an eejit, Bon called him the brain for a reason.

    This is a great piece written on him this week www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/sep/24/acdc-malcolm-young-master-of-discipline-and-economy
    Nice article.

    As to the book, I think you're talking about 'Hell ain't a bad place to be' by Mick Wall. It was a bit warts and all, and unsympathetic to the way the Youngs treated those around them.

    I don't know how true it is. But a bad reputation in the music business doesn't necessarily mean a lot. It's just as likely to mean they didn't want to be walked all over by record company execs, smart arse music press types (after its asinine review of BIB - 'heavy metal dross'! - I never bought the NME again) and liggers.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,779 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    McDave wrote: »
    As to the book, I think you're talking about 'Hell ain't a bad place to be' by Mick Wall. It was a bit warts and all, and unsympathetic to the way the Youngs treated those around them.

    The book is called Maximum Rock n Roll www.amazon.com/AC-DC-Ultimate-Rock---Roll/dp/0061133922/ref=la_B001JS0SIQ_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1412106704&sr=1-1

    It's great read, it has a lot of great information about their early days but it declines a bit after Johnson joins the band.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Well guys, Malcolm's illness has finally been confirmed by his family.

    http://www.people.com/article/malcolm-young-ac-dc-dementia
    Malcolm is suffering from dementia and the family thanks you for respecting their privacy,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I wonder did Brian Johnson help out with the writing on this album. I don't think he's a had a writing credit since BUYV and it's been all Young/Young ever since. Either that or Angus wrote all the songs on his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    The book is called Maximum Rock n Roll www.amazon.com/AC-DC-Ultimate-Rock---Roll/dp/0061133922/ref=la_B001JS0SIQ_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1412106704&sr=1-1

    It's great read, it has a lot of great information about their early days but it declines a bit after Johnson joins the band.
    That's the one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I read a biography on the band and Malcolm comes across as a dictator with a 'either do things my way or get the f*ck out' attitude, but there's no doubt he knew what he was doing cos they wouldn't have lasted 40 odd years if he was an eejit, Bon called him the brain for a reason.

    This is a great piece written on him this week www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/sep/24/acdc-malcolm-young-master-of-discipline-and-economy

    Yeah, absolutely. I've heard the same stories about the brothers Young actually being shrewd business men and un-sentimental in their human resources management. It's weird sometimes to hear, because Malcolm and Angus both come across as the most unassuming characters in their interviews, but on the other hand they've not been shy about sacking people. They sacked Dave Evans and never had a good word to say about him since, they sacked bass player Mal Evans (no relation) because he didn't quite fit with their personalities, and viewed Bon Scott as 'disposable' and took a dim view of his substance habits (well, the heavier end of them anyway), and sacked Phil Rudd in 1983. They even wanted to keep Chris Slade on a sort of retainer while they tried to get back together with Phil Rudd 1995 in case things didn't work with Phil.

    But that's how it often is in successful bands. You have one guy who's got the brain and the drive to make it all go forward. The others just try not to get in the way too much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    briany wrote: »
    Yeah, absolutely. I've heard the same stories about the brothers Young actually being shrewd business men and un-sentimental in their human resources management. It's weird sometimes to hear, because Malcolm and Angus both come across as the most unassuming characters in their interviews, but on the other hand they've not been shy about sacking people. They sacked Dave Evans and never had a good word to say about him since, they sacked bass player Mal Evans (no relation) because he didn't quite fit with their personalities, and viewed Bon Scott as 'disposable' and took a dim view of his substance habits (well, the heavier end of them anyway), and sacked Phil Rudd in 1983. They even wanted to keep Chris Slade on a sort of retainer while they tried to get back together with Phil Rudd 1995 in case things didn't work with Phil.

    But that's how it often is in successful bands. You have one guy who's got the brain and the drive to make it all go forward. The others just try not to get in the way too much.

    I guess that's the way it is with Bon Jovi, that Jon has the final decision in whatever they do - for example touring without Richie Sambora, even though to many fans, Richie would be just as important to the band as Jon.

    It's likely the same for KISS with Gene and Paul?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I guess that's the way it is with Bon Jovi, that Jon has the final decision in whatever they do - for example touring without Richie Sambora, even though to many fans, Richie would be just as important to the band as Jon.

    It's likely the same for KISS with Gene and Paul?

    No doubt Gene and Paul are the business men behind KISS. In fact, with Gene you kind of get the feeling that music was just a gimmick to him that he could sell merch off of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    briany wrote: »
    No doubt Gene and Paul are the business men behind KISS. In fact, with Gene you kind of get the feeling that music was just a gimmick to him that he could sell merch off of.

    But in a way, he's honest in admitting it, and he discusses it, on this interview with Henry Rollins, from around the 9 minute mark, and at 11 minutes, how, in his opinion, a lot of bands in heavier genres contradict themselves when they criticise Kiss for their range of merchandise. (I used to swear to myself I'd never use the word genre!:D")



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    But in a way, he's honest in admitting it, and he discusses it, on this interview with Henry Rollins, from around the 9 minute mark, and at 11 minutes, how, in his opinion, a lot of bands in heavier genres contradict themselves when they criticise Kiss for their range of merchandise. (I used to swear to myself I'd never use the word genre!:D")


    Speaking of Henry Rollins and KISS, his 'It's KISS!' story is hilarious. It's about him being talked into attended a KISS farewell tour show in San Bernardino California and rub shoulders with a bunch of crazy drug addled KISS fanatics.

    But on topic of Gene. It's not his merch selling that should be a problem, but that the music is only really there to fuel that, or that's the impression he gives like it's an afterthought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    briany wrote: »
    Speaking of Henry Rollins and KISS, his 'It's KISS!' story is hilarious. It's about him being talked into attended a KISS farewell tour show in San Bernardino California and rub shoulders with a bunch of crazy drug addled KISS fanatics.

    But on topic of Gene. It's not his merch selling that should be a problem, but that the music is only really there to fuel that, or that's the impression he gives like it's an afterthought.

    I must check out that story!

    In the interview, and at around the 10 minute mark, Henry Rollins asks him what takes priority the music or the merchandising, and in his defence, Gene addresses it honestly!:)

    In fairness to Kiss, they were probably one of the first bands to place emphasis on merchandising, and loads of others have followed their example, as Gene states with regard to bands selling t shirts. At most heavy rock or metal gigs now, you'll see t shirts at around 30 euros and hoodies around 50 euros and often they can be even more expensive.

    From what I understand, Iron Maiden learned a lot about merchandising and stage presentation from Kiss, from when they toured together in 1980.

    About 3 minutes in on this video, Rod Smallwood and Dave Murray discuss the success of their 1980 tour with Kiss. Dave mentions the impact that the theatrical presentation of the Kiss shows, had on them.



    http://www.kissarmysweden.net/kiss-och-iron-maiden-unmasked-tour-1980

    http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/things-about-iron-maiden-that-annoy-you.28207/page-10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I must check out that story!

    In the interview, and at around the 10 minute mark, Henry Rollins asks him what takes priority the music or the merchandising, and in his defence, Gene addresses it honestly!:)

    In fairness to Kiss, they were probably one of the first bands to place emphasis on merchandising, and loads of others have followed their example, as Gene states with regard to bands selling t shirts. At most heavy rock or metal gigs now, you'll see t shirts at around 30 euros and hoodies around 50 euros and often they can be even more expensive.

    From what I understand, Iron Maiden learned a lot about merchandising and stage presentation from Kiss, from when they toured together in 1980.

    About 3 minutes in on this video, Rod Smallwood and Dave Murray discuss the success of their 1980 tour with Kiss. Dave mentions the impact that the theatrical presentation of the Kiss shows, had on them.



    http://www.kissarmysweden.net/kiss-och-iron-maiden-unmasked-tour-1980

    http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads/things-about-iron-maiden-that-annoy-you.28207/page-10

    I respect Gene's honesty but I also think he's being somewhat hypocritical. He's also said that 'rock is dead', and laid the blame squarely at the door of illegal downloading. He neglected to mention the rise of corporate culture within the music industry as the 70s turned into 80s and the 'sell more units' philosophy, be it CDs or merch, which stifled creativity as record companies became less willing to take a bet on a new act than go for the tried and tested thing. Also 'the money goes up, sh*t comes down' structure became entrenched, meaning the CEO of Warner Brothers music and top execs make a packet while the artists could sometimes owing money on their contracts. So Gene on the one hand is open about his 'money first' philosophy, while failing to acknowledge how that philosophy has helped contribute to the decline of the record industry he's crying about.

    But, on a slightly lighter note (:P), yes the Rollins story is awesome. All the Rollins stories are hilarious. His spoken word stuff is better than 95 percent of the stand up comedy out there and it's all real stories as far as I know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭horseburger


    briany wrote: »
    I respect Gene's honesty but I also think he's being somewhat hypocritical. He's also said that 'rock is dead', and laid the blame squarely at the door of illegal downloading. He neglected to mention the rise of corporate culture within the music industry as the 70s turned into 80s and the 'sell more units' philosophy, be it CDs or merch, which stifled creativity as record companies became less willing to take a bet on a new act than go for the tried and tested thing. Also 'the money goes up, sh*t comes down' structure became entrenched, meaning the CEO of Warner Brothers music and top execs make a packet while the artists could sometimes owing money on their contracts. So Gene on the one hand is open about his 'money first' philosophy, while failing to acknowledge how that philosophy has helped contribute to the decline of the record industry he's crying about.

    But, on a slightly lighter note (:P), yes the Rollins story is awesome. All the Rollins stories are hilarious. His spoken word stuff is better than 95 percent of the stand up comedy out there and it's all real stories as far as I know.

    Also check out Henry Rollins's two interviews with Nardwuar, in the first one, it's like he doesn't know what to make of, or how to respond to Nardwuar at all!:D

    (Jello Biafra plays along much more in his Nardwuar interviews:))





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Last week i gave the link (ACDC requiring extra's for new video shoot) to one of my best mates in UK, he got an email yesterday asking him to come along, it's in London tomorrow....fcuker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,219 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Also check out Henry Rollins's two interviews with Nardwuar, in the first one, it's like he doesn't know what to make of, or how to respond to Nardwuar at all!:D

    (Jello Biafra plays along much more in his Nardwuar interviews:))

    Yeah, I love Nardwuar, he does some of the best interviews you'll see. Henry's just a crotchety character, really, although he's very animated and self-deprecating in his stand up. He knows what he's like and how he's perceived, but he doesn't seem bothered about changing it, although he doesn't mind making fun of it either.

    A Nardwuar interview with AC/DC would be magic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Last week i gave the link (ACDC requiring extra's for new video shoot) to one of my best mates in UK, he got an email yesterday asking him to come along, it's in London tomorrow....fcuker

    Friend of mine got called as well, the b@stard !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    It seems play ball has leaked


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