Protestors yay or no

crannglas · 01-10-2014 06:57PM #1

Just curious. Do you support protestors or do you expect no one to be questioned ,confronted stood up to,or to show their discomfort struggle etc.. Personally I believe in right to protest shout roar (if they feel need) Soon the dail will be marched upon by 200 thousand strong. Do you always just lay down and accept all they throw at you? Pretty soon the sugar tax will come in. And what would it take to get you off your. Butt to protest? And yes I will protest. So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

catallus · 01-10-2014 06:58PM

I'd welcome a sugar tax.

01-10-2014 06:58PM

What

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-10-2014 06:59PM

crannglas wrote: »

Just curious. Do you support protestors or do you expect no one to be questioned ,confronted stood up to,or to show their discomfort struggle etc.. Personally I believe in right to protest shout roar (if they feel need) Soon the dail will be marched upon by 200 thousand strong. Do you always just lay down and accept all they throw at you? Pretty soon the sugar tax will come in. And what would it take to get you off your. Butt to protest? And yes I will protest. So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

Well that's been kept quiet, protest? Yes......act the gob****e and bully, harass and intimidate peolle? No.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:00PM

bluewolf wrote: »

What

People complain and call protestors pests etc.. why and do you support protestors?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-10-2014 07:00PM

crannglas wrote: »

Just curious. Do you support protestors or do you expect no one to be questioned ,confronted stood up to,or to show their discomfort struggle etc.. Personally I believe in right to protest shout roar (if they feel need) Soon the dail will be marched upon by 200 thousand strong. Do you always just lay down and accept all they throw at you? Pretty soon the sugar tax will come in. And what would it take to get you off your. Butt to protest? And yes I will protest. So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

Are you asking or telling us?

I am pie · 01-10-2014 07:00PM

Butt protest.

huhuhuhuhuh

partyatmygaff · 01-10-2014 07:01PM

The level of thought and coherency of the OP is similar to most recent economic protests in the country.

Ronan|Raven · 01-10-2014 07:01PM

I call certain groups of protesters pests. Usually the ones from the far left of the spectrum. The "I don't want to contribute to anything but wan't all the benefits of a modern society" types.

Davarus Walrus · 01-10-2014 07:01PM

The vast majority of protests in Ireland tend to attract the same shower of crusties, tattooed Republicans, economically illiterate socialists, and troublemakers. The majority of people don't want to associate with those sorts.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-10-2014 07:03PM

crannglas wrote: »

People complain and call protestors pests etc.. why and do you support protestors?

Well if it obviously depends on who is protesting and that they are protesting against.

But you get these ignorant "career" protestors who will go to pretty much anything going, without a blind clue what the hell is happening and they just get genuine causes bad names. These are what most people refer to as "pests".

I'd support anyone's right to protest - even if they get a bit obstructive (these days, I think you have to or you're wasting your time) - but that doesn't mean I agree with them.

Shakespeare's Sister · 01-10-2014 07:03PM

crannglas wrote: »

Just curious. Do you support protestors or do you expect no one to be questioned ,confronted stood up to,or to show their discomfort struggle etc.. Personally I believe in right to protest shout roar (if they feel need) Soon the dail will be marched upon by 200 thousand strong. Do you always just lay down and accept all they throw at you? Pretty soon the sugar tax will come in. And what would it take to get you off your. Butt to protest? And yes I will protest. So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

Why are you asking whether people fit into just one or the other category?
I fully support non violent, dignified demonstration - not being a pack of confrontational dicks spoiling for a fight no matter who gets hurt, and which just undermines them anyway.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:06PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well that's been kept quiet, protest? Yes......act the gob****e and bully, harass and intimidate peolle? No.

Didn't the EU and Irish government bully harass,intimidate,threaten us. And now use garda and prison to make people pay? Its happened before it will happen again. 200 thousand or more will march to the dail. Will you be one of them?

Shakespeare's Sister · 01-10-2014 07:07PM

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

I call certain groups of protesters pests. Usually the ones from the far left of the spectrum. The "I don't want to contribute to anything but wan't all the benefits of a modern society" types.

People who view having to pay a bill as an injustice, and who claim they're fighting for "the people" when they really only give a sh-t about themselves.

BoJack Horseman · 01-10-2014 07:08PM

Rather vague question.

Next up:
The right to vote..... Don't ya just hate it?

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:09PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Are you asking or telling us?

Both.

Shakespeare's Sister · 01-10-2014 07:10PM

crannglas wrote: »

Didn't the EU and Irish government bully harass,intimidate,threaten us. And now use garda and prison to make people pay? Its happened before it will happen again. 200 thousand or more will march to the dail. Will you be one of them?

Well it's not the EU, Irish government and guards whom the more clown type protestor harasses.

alias no.9 · 01-10-2014 07:15PM

crannglas wrote: »

Just curious. Do you support protestors or do you expect no one to be questioned ,confronted stood up to,or to show their discomfort struggle etc.. Personally I believe in right to protest shout roar (if they feel need) Soon the dail will be marched upon by 200 thousand strong. Do you always just lay down and accept all they throw at you? Pretty soon the sugar tax will come in. And what would it take to get you off your. Butt to protest? And yes I will protest. So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

Most protests I see are just a bunch of serial protesters for whom the protest is more important than the thing they're protesting about.
They seem to opportunistically attach themselves to, and completely drown out, genuine issues in an attempt to radicalise new recruits for their socialist dream. Their misguided faith in Marxist dogma has them believing that their agitation will spark the revolution that will sweep them to power.
Once a higher profile protest comes along, they drop everything and toddle off to that, rinse and repeat.

SaveOurLyric · 01-10-2014 07:16PM

Few people object to protests or the right to. They just dont support the generally nonsense arguments that protestors use to explain their cause. - frequently not going much further than the logic of - "Someone wants me to pay a bill ? I dont want to do that. So I shouldnt have to. I am going to protest about it. Meanwhile, I will try an concoct some spurious reason to convince myself I am doing the right thing".

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:18PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

People who view having to pay a bill as an injustice, and who claim they're fighting for "the people" when they really only give a sh-t about themselves.

In the broad spectrum of things all humans fight for themselves and their families so that things get better for them. So in long and short of it made it better for your life. Regardless of how it started. Like women's rights etc.. people don't have issues with paying their bills. We do however have issues paying three four times over under different headings.

Turtyturd · 01-10-2014 07:24PM

I would have went yes or nay.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:24PM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

The vast majority of protests in Ireland tend to attract the same shower of crusties, tattooed Republicans, economically illiterate socialists, and troublemakers. The majority of people don't want to associate with those sorts.

I am a republican patriotic nationalist and I have no tats,never been in trouble or caused it and I may not have a masters in economics. But I don't need one to know you let them away with this it won't stop and more and more ahead. Sure aren't they after precious alcohol. Would ye lot protest then lol

Phoebas · 01-10-2014 07:26PM

crannglas wrote: »

200 thousand or more will march to the dail.

What kind of crazy talk is this!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-10-2014 07:28PM

crannglas wrote: »

Both.

Not actually possible if you want to start a debate. I refer the gnetlemen to the answer I gave some moents ago:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well if it obviously depends on who is protesting and that they are protesting against.

But you get these ignorant "career" protestors who will go to pretty much anything going, without a blind clue what the hell is happening and they just get genuine causes bad names. These are what most people refer to as "pests".

I'd support anyone's right to protest - even if they get a bit obstructive (these days, I think you have to or you're wasting your time) - but that doesn't mean I agree with them.

dirtyden · 01-10-2014 07:30PM

crannglas wrote: »

People complain and call protestors pests etc.. why and do you support protestors?

A lot of protests I don't agree with. I have no problem with the water charges or a sugar tax. Some people who protest are so vehement in their own moral authority that they can be pests. If I agree with a protest I will applaud it or join in. If I disagree with and it is interfering with my personal freedom or space I will dislike it. However if people protest in a forthright but reasonable manner, for or against the protest, I would have no problem.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:33PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well if it obviously depends on who is protesting and that they are protesting against.

But you get these ignorant "career" protestors who will go to pretty much anything going, without a blind clue what the hell is happening and they just get genuine causes bad names. These are what most people refer to as "pests".

I'd support anyone's right to protest - even if they get a bit obstructive (these days, I think you have to or you're wasting your time) - but that doesn't mean I agree with them.

Unfortunately you will always have those thrill seekers type in mix along with people who have no control over temper,emotions. Sorry I can't paragraph and for poor construction. I am on my phone. I agree these days obstructive behaviour seems to come with protests and no one to blame except the governments who are choking the people that keep shops,bins,warehouses, country going.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:38PM

dirtyden wrote: »

A lot of protests I don't agree with. I have no problem with the water charges or a sugar tax. Some people who protest are so vehement in their own moral authority that they can be pests. If I agree with a protest I will applaud it or join in. If I disagree with and it is interfering with my personal freedom or space I will dislike it. However if people protest in a forthright but reasonable manner, for or against the protest, I would have no problem.

Don't you get it though? You already pau tax on sugary items and then some and you pay for your water to. Why are people so acceptant and lethargic.

padma · 01-10-2014 07:39PM

Yes..I do support them..I come from a line of people who protested for change in this country..sometimes it worked..sometimes it didnt..it keeps the politicians on their toes and teaches the next generation not to become numbed to the plight of others.

Those who dont are entitled to their beliefs but shouldn't scorn, belittle or try to bully those who do online on forums like this.

Marching for better pay, workers rights, human rights, anti war, drop the debt is a necessity in an unfair society. Until these issues are resolved and corruption cleaned up I hope that people with a social conscience will continue to come together to form a more just society.

dirtyden · 01-10-2014 07:41PM

crannglas wrote: »

People complain and call protestors pests etc.. why and do you support protestors?

crannglas wrote: »

Don't you get it though? You already pau tax on sugary items and then some and you pay for your water to. Why are people so acceptant and lethargic.

I see perfectly clearly. I am really not sure you do.

Carry on with your thread though, as is your right as you are causing no trouble here.

Little CuChulainn · 01-10-2014 07:46PM

crannglas wrote: »

So why the hatred of protestors who are standing up for your rights to.

The protestors are about as representative of the people of Ireland as the Green Party but act with a completely undeserved moral high ground.

EDIT: Protestors is actually too kind a word. I would support the right to protest. It's the intimidation and violence that loses them the title of protestor for me.

crannglas · 01-10-2014 07:47PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Well it's not the EU, Irish government and guards whom the more clown type protestor harasses.

When they do march on dail peacefully they are shoved and hit and called all sorts for standing up for their rights. They do however threaten harass and push people to the worse alternatives. Look at greece . People all supporting them here in Ireland( good on them etc..) yet same stuff happening here and people sitting on their hands.

Protestors yay or no

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