Water meter protests

01-10-2014 10:52AM

I wonder if they got fined or ended up in jail?

Anatom · 01-10-2014 10:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if they got fined or ended up in jail?

The funny (ironic, not ha ha) thing about that is, that he'll end up getting an assessed charge, which will more than likely be more than the bill he would have got if his meter hadn't been tampered with. He's potentially costing himself more money.

A bit daft really...

01-10-2014 11:03AM

Anatom wrote: »

The funny (ironic, not ha ha) thing about that is, that he'll end up getting an assessed charge, which will more than likely be more than the bill he would have got if his meter hadn't been tampered with. He's potentially costing himself more money.

A bit daft really...

Not really,

depends on how many people living in his household.

In my circumstance assessed charges would be far cheaper than having a meter.

Tony EH · 01-10-2014 11:14AM

papu wrote: »

Can't you get into your head that taking out huge loans with massive interest rates to pay for hugely inflated house prices was a F*king bad idea?

People tend to go for what they believe is the least worse choice when presented with dire alternatives.

People took out difficult mortgages because of a lack of any real choice. Renting long term is simply not an option in Ireland, especially when you reach a certain age.

So, while trying to buy a house may have been a "f*cking bad idea", the alternative of renting is also a "f*cking bad idea" too.

papu · 01-10-2014 11:46AM

Anatom wrote: »

The funny (ironic, not ha ha) thing about that is, that he'll end up getting an assessed charge, which will more than likely be more than the bill he would have got if his meter hadn't been tampered with. He's potentially costing himself more money.

A bit daft really...

The hilarious thing is they want more expensive Lids , to protect the horses...
I don't think they understand how force works , a horse has 4 legs , so unless its a 2 ton horse this is a complete non issue.

01-10-2014 11:47AM

In 1773 the Boston Tea Party took place in America, where citizens destroyed a whole government shipment of tea because of a 3% tax that was imposed.

BoJack Horseman · 01-10-2014 11:48AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In 1773 the Boston Tea Party took place in America, where citizens destroyed a whole government shipment of tea because of a 3% tax that was imposed.

Terrific.

Thanks!

01-10-2014 11:49AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Terrific.

Thanks!

People Power.

BoJack Horseman · 01-10-2014 11:49AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People Power.

Yup.

01-10-2014 11:50AM

Only people protesting on my street are the same mouths who were protesting elsewhere.

01-10-2014 12:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Only people protesting on my street are the same mouths who were protesting elsewhere.

Go out there and show us a video of you shouting down these protesters.

Tell them you want to pay for water, and support Irish water.

That will show em.

papu · 01-10-2014 12:15PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Go out there and show us a video of you shouting down these protesters.

Tell them you want to pay for water, and support Irish water.

That will show em.

Protesting after their elected government has passed the appropriate legislation to start separate water charges..

That'll really show em.

tigger123 · 01-10-2014 12:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Go out there and show us a video of you shouting down these protesters.

Tell them you want to pay for water, and support Irish water.

That will show em.

It's hard to take these people seriously. I know one of the far left, she's a friend of a friend, and she'd be best described as a professional protester. Doesn't matter what the issue is she's front and centre, screaming at cops.

It's more driven by anti-establismentism than anything else.

The bully boy and intimidation tactics are pretty off putting too.

Satriale · 01-10-2014 12:49PM

papu wrote: »

The hilarious thing is they want more expensive Lids , to protect the horses...
I don't think they understand how force works , a horse has 4 legs , so unless its a 2 ton horse this is a complete non issue.

They dont, but i'm not sure you know how horses work either

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Uriel. · 01-10-2014 12:51PM

tigger123 wrote: »

It's hard to take these people seriously. I know one of the far left, she's a friend of a friend, and she'd be best described as a professional protester. Doesn't matter what the issue is she's front and centre, screaming at cops.

It's more driven by anti-establismentism than anything else.

The bully boy and intimidation tactics are pretty off putting too.

You'd kind of wonder if these "professional" protesters could do with some therapy or something - I can't imagine what it would be like to be angry at everything all the time.

papu · 01-10-2014 12:57PM

Satriale wrote: »

They dont, but i'm not sure you know how horses work either .

Horses canter on the paths through housing estates often?

Satriale · 01-10-2014 01:05PM

papu wrote: »

Horses canter on the paths through housing estates often?

Sadly, yes.

01-10-2014 01:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Go out there and show us a video of you shouting down these protesters.

Tell them you want to pay for water, and support Irish water.

That will show em.

I think the meters going in despite their usual outrage will "show them" a bit more.

SaveOurLyric · 01-10-2014 01:11PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Fat chance of that!

On the contrary. It is guaranteed. The govt will get overall whatever money they decide they need. So income from one source will result in a reduction from another.

VinLieger · 01-10-2014 01:21PM

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

On the contrary. It is guaranteed. The govt will get overall whatever money they decide they need. So income from one source will result in a reduction from another.

No it won't the government have made absolutely no guarantee of reducing taxes anywhere that would have normally gone to pay for our water at local level now that we are instead paying for it through Irish Water.

I agree they should reduce the burden now that water is no longer paid fro through taxes but they are not going to and will most likely use the extra money they now have that previously paid for water to just pay the bondholders

Geuze · 01-10-2014 02:36PM

The extra water charges paid means less borrowing, not less taxes.

Income taxes may be cut slightly, but overall tax revenues will rise.

Obviously taxes must rise, as well as public spending fall, so as to reduce the fiscal deficit.

01-10-2014 04:10PM

Work's done for the day here anyway, just the 5 arrests. :pac:

SaveOurLyric · 01-10-2014 07:24PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

My household paid €45,000 in taxes and stealth charges last year, thats my 'crazy' logic for not giving IW a cent. That and the fact they are creating a monster quango monopoly for no reason that is soaking up good money that should have been used as capital. Care to argue with that justification?

Don't be so self righteous and assume the moral high ground is yours.

It isnt even a logic, let alone a crazy one.
Nevertheless, €45,000 wasnt enough since you were not paying enough for your water. In future you will.

Ronan|Raven · 01-10-2014 07:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQAci92fIEM

flutered · 02-10-2014 09:04AM

Egginacup wrote: »

Of course they won't get meters. Travellers wouldn't pay for water and the authorities would be scared sh!tless of trying to make them.

add to the water all the other domestic charges which settled people are required to shell out for, plus all the extras which they are getting from the health centers which end up at markets and car boots, they are also entitled to work and collect welfare, i will not go into the other add ons as they are a protected species here on boards.

Little CuChulainn · 02-10-2014 11:30AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not really,

depends on how many people living in his household.

In my circumstance assessed charges would be far cheaper than having a meter.

That's because you are effectively leeching off the rest of us. By underpaying you are creating an imbalance which results in others overpaying.

BoJack Horseman · 02-10-2014 11:33AM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

That's because you are effectively leeching off the rest of us. By underpaying you are creating an imbalance which results in others overpaying.

No.

Such a concept is non-existant with a utility bill.

If Customer A selects a 'super-saver' tarriff from a utility company, is he leeching from the customers who don't optimise their tariff?

No. He just chose the tariff he felt was best.

Little CuChulainn · 02-10-2014 11:41AM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

No.

Such a concept is non-existant with a utility bill.

If Customer A selects a 'super-saver' tarriff from a utility company, is he leeching from the customers who don't optimise their tariff?

No. He just chose the tariff he felt was best.

Not the same situation at all. If you want to liken it to other utilities he's effectively partly bybassing the meter to consume more than he is paying for.

mickydoomsux · 03-10-2014 09:59AM

the watchman wrote: »

For those who are reluctant to fill in the Irish Water forms for whatever reason but feel they have to out of fear of not receiving allowances or being cut off perhaps you might consider not using the form but instead send in the information they require by letter stating that you feel that you are being coerced into doing so and are doing so under protest and under duress. You may even go on to state your terms and conditions. Just a thought!

And they'll just reply that you have to fill out the form properly like everyone else.

papu · 03-10-2014 10:01AM

the watchman wrote: »

For those who are reluctant to fill in the Irish Water forms for whatever reason but feel they have to out of fear of not receiving allowances or being cut off perhaps you might consider not using the form but instead send in the information they require by letter stating that you feel that you are being coerced into doing so and are doing so under protest and under duress. You may even go on to state your terms and conditions. Just a thought!

Do it in crayon as well , really show off your level of social maturity.

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