Ian Paisley has died

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

Martin McGuinness says he has lost a friend

Timberrrrrrrr · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Is anyone really saying that though?

Just because he was one of many bigots doesn't mean he's any less of a bigot.

I wonder how many will celebrate when that bigot Adams passes on ?

EunanMac · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

He seems to be regarded as some sort of comical figure and great old character in the Republic. For the people that suffered years of sectarian hatred the promoted, it was far from a joke.

Donkey Oaty · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

He was an absolute inspiration to anyone who wondered whether they could get away with being called "Dr" on the strength of a phony doctorate.

Shakespeare's Sister · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

McGrath5 wrote: »

I think if you are taking comments that where made in 1969 to heart, you need to chill.

So what that it was 1969? It was the kind of attitude that led to the hate and division.
As I expected, a bunch of simpering self loathing Irish people going on about his merits.
Learn some history, seriously.

SpaceTime · 12-09-2014 01:21PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He was right about this state and its relationship with the Catholic Church

True but not in a very constructive way and he wasn't exactly arguing for liberal, open, secularism in Northern Ireland either.

But, I can see how Northern Protestants would have seen what looked like an emerging theocracy in the Republic in that era.

I think the fact that Ireland's a far more liberal, less religious and much more progressive place definitely softened attitudes too.

However, I don't really think his criticism of the religious extremism in this state in the 20th century has anything to do with the kinds of critiques that we might make today.

It had more in common with Elizabethan England than a sensible discussion about secularism and pluralism.

jiltloop · 12-09-2014 01:22PM

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12-09-2014 01:23PM

1955 Paisley helped instigated a riot because of a Tricolour outside a Sinn Fein office. Goes back further than some may think, and it might be a good idea to remember he wasn't just a product of the times, he was very much a contributer to those times.

EunanMac · 12-09-2014 01:24PM

Pity he didn't live to see Scottish independence. Ian and his ilk's hatred filled sectarian grip is finally slipping

12-09-2014 01:24PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wonder how many will celebrate when that bigot Adams passes on ?

Bigot? Howso?

Timberrrrrrrr · 12-09-2014 01:25PM

EunanMac wrote: »

Pity he didn't live to see Scottish independence. Ian and his ilk's hatred filled sectarian grip is finally slipping

That has yet to be decided

iDave · 12-09-2014 01:25PM

The world is a better place with him gone.

Richard Hillman · 12-09-2014 01:25PM

Some people need to hate to help them feel human. McGuinness and Paisley became friends after all those years. The people celebrating just need a cause to latch onto to avoid the reality of their own lives. Celebrate today. You will be back to normal tomorrow. Paisley and McGuinness found peace.

pablomakaveli · 12-09-2014 01:25PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's a bad sign when Martin McGuinness proves himself to have more dignity and respect than half the posters of AH

Paisley didn't show much dignity and respect for the people who had to suffer as a consequence of his hate. You shouldn't be surprised that people aren't sorry to see him gone.

porsche959 · 12-09-2014 01:26PM

Ian Paisley: it is almost impossible not to speak ill of him

By Tim Stanley Politics Last updated: September 12th, 2014
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Whether or not he "saw the light", he has finally walked towards it (Photo: PA).

Ian Paisley has died. They say “never speak ill of the dead”, but the temptation is great. He was more than just a divisive figure: he was the roaring, red-faced, hateful embodiment of a virulent form of Protestant unionism that – ironically – threatened the peace of the society he pledged to represent. Writing as not only a convert to Catholicism but also the descendant of Irish immigrants, my mind immediately travels to this quote he delivered about Catholics in 1969:
They breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100286226/ian-paisley-it-is-almost-impossible-not-to-speak-ill-of-him/

jiltloop · 12-09-2014 01:27PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wonder how many will celebrate when that bigot Adams passes on ?

Not sure how you can call Adams a bigot!? He was fighting bigotry against Republicans.

Smart Bug · 12-09-2014 01:27PM

Notable quotes in the Irish Times:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ian-paisley-never-never-never-and-other-notable-quotes-1.1926880?page=1

The Backwards Man · 12-09-2014 01:28PM

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Platitudes as to how he was just misunderstood and really a decent auld skin, especially from catholic Irish (whom he openly detested) are misguided, end of.

I don't see many platitudes,. I see loads of people jumping over themselves to express there exquisite delight that the man is dead, you wouldn't get that carry-on from a wain in a playground.

Your belief that he detested Irish Catholics is a bit wide of the mark too
http://homepage.eircom.net/~theislandtrust/

Kristopherus · 12-09-2014 01:28PM

Ian Paisley was the biggest(!!!!!!) bigot this island has ever known. He caused untold misery to a large section of the N.I population for years and years with his brand of rotten bigotry.

May he roast in hell !!!!

sbsquarepants · 12-09-2014 01:29PM

EunanMac wrote: »

Pity he didn't live to see Scottish independence. Ian and his ilk's hatred filled sectarian grip is finally slipping

There's no guarantee you or I will either, it's swung back to no in the polls.

As for Ian, he mellowed in later years but still good riddance I think. He was a deplorable human being.

King George VI · 12-09-2014 01:29PM

Pints?

Grab All Association · 12-09-2014 01:30PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wonder how many will celebrate when that bigot Adams passes on ?

Do you own a fleg like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/1280px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png

Dubliners are getting really distressed by this news

SpaceTime · 12-09-2014 01:31PM

He did remarkable work on promoting the Northern Irish accent abroad though.

Unfortunately many people's main idea of a NI accent is Paisley ranting or saterical impersonation of the same.

job seeker · 12-09-2014 01:31PM

This is all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI

Timberrrrrrrr · 12-09-2014 01:32PM

Chris___ wrote: »

Do you own a fleg like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/1280px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png

Dubliners are getting really distressed by this news

Well i am English but no i don't own a "fleg" nor do i own a flag.

Kristopherus · 12-09-2014 01:32PM

SpaceTime wrote: »

He did remarkable work on promoting the Northern Irish accent abroad though.

Unfortunately many people's main idea of a NI accent is Paisley ranting or saterical impersonation of the same.

Like in the Euro parliament:D:D:D.

Sh1tbag OToole · 12-09-2014 01:33PM

http://quietgoer.eu/paizleh.mp3

wazky · 12-09-2014 01:34PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well i am English but no i don't own a "fleg" nor do i own a flag.

Do you own a towel with that flag design on it?, and bring it on holidays and show all your foreign pals it?

FTA69 · 12-09-2014 01:34PM

I'm actually surprised he's dead. I thought he'd live forever on hate alone and end up like one of those lads on Futurama with his head in a jar barking at everyone.

TheBeardedLady · 12-09-2014 01:34PM

Chris___ wrote: »

Dubliners are getting really distressed by this news

Ah deary me.

Ian Paisley has died

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