9/11 anniversary, where were you when it happened and was it a conspiracy?

Duff · 11-09-2014 12:14AM

I was on my second or third day of 1st year in secondary school. Didn't comprehend what it meant at the time.

KungPao · 11-09-2014 12:16AM

At home playing MS Flight Sim, of all things. Sister came into my room and said there's some crazy **** going on in New York. Turned on the TV then watched the news ALL day and that night, at home then with friends. Was a mental day. Think the second tower had just been hit and saw the towers fall live, but it's a bit of a blur.

Hard to believe so many years have passed.

krudler · 11-09-2014 12:19AM

I was on holidays with mates, our first lads holiday abroad. Remember being very hungover going out for a wander to get some food and seeing lots of people in a bar watching the tvs, assumed it was a fire then saw the 2nd plane hit a few mins later, was surreal stuff. Even watching the live news feeds of it now is bizarre, literally seeing a world changing moment happen before your eyes on tv.

35cent · 11-09-2014 12:25AM

I was in 6th class at the time. My mum told me she was cancelling the trip to New York we were going to take in a few months time. I asked her why and then she pointed at the TV. I thought some idiot pilot flew into one of the towers by accident. I learnt about the other planes that flew into the other tower and the pentagon, I realised it was a terrorist attack and I watched it on TV for a while and that's pretty much it.

Oh, and I don't think it was a conspiracy.

miss tickle · 11-09-2014 12:28AM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

On the eve of the anniversary lets get the debate going again.

Roughly one third of Americans believe that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100104249/the-911-conspiracy-theories-arent-as-irrational-as-you-might-think/

When 911 happened, we relied on media analysis because we did not have the technology at the time to examine it ourselves.

Also from a psychological point of view, because we have accepted it for so long, and people find it hard to believe that a government would target their own people for long term monetary gain, it is hard for people to view the uncomfortable alternative.

These may be on the thread already,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORu-68SHpE,

This is 'September Clues', it is about an hour and a half long, and is only part one of two, but it dissects the photography and media of the event in forensic detail, and points out some very obvious (by today's standards), cgi and media anomalies.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg,

This explains the controlled detonation of WTC7 and also covers some of the detonation of the twin towers

This is also a long one, it was backed at the time by over 1500 architects and engineers, and that number has grown since.

Also John Lear (his father developed the Learjet) has signed an affadavid stating that no planes hit the World Trade Centre.

http://beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2012/03/911-airplane-affidavit-by-john-lear-son-of-learjet-inventor-1935777.html

It never occurred to me that this could be a possibility, until someone pointed it out to me a few months ago. We are conditioned to assume our government is there to protect us, so it makes it hard to accept that that may not always be the case.

Jesus Wept · 11-09-2014 12:29AM

Why would I care where any of you were? Unless you were at the Twin Towers, where you were is the least interesting part of that day.

Duff · 11-09-2014 12:32AM

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

Why would I care where any of you were? Unless you were at the Twin Towers, where you were is the least interesting part of that day.

You're a bit of a crabbit auld fúck for someone who's mod of Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows.

Jesus Wept · 11-09-2014 12:33AM

Duff wrote: »

You're a bit of a crabbit auld fúck for someone who's mod of Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows.

I'm a complex person duff.
Come on over and we can watch Fight Club.

kingchess · 11-09-2014 12:35AM

I was working on a building site when sister-in -law phoned me from new york,.she told me America was under attack and I was thinking she was stoned or drunk,she was very worried as my Brother was working in Manhatten and the mobile phone system was not working(he saw the smoke on the twin towers but got out of manhatten before they closed the bridges.)I asked the load-all driver was there some thing on the news and he filled me in,left the site and drove home listening to the radio all the way,went in home and turned on the tv and every channel seemed to have it,

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-09-2014 12:35AM

i heart chewy louie wrote: »

Why would I care where any of you were? Unless you were at the Twin Towers, where you were is the least interesting part of that day.

Ah, some of the stories are pretty good. I really like Beks101's one.

But yeh, I was having a late breakfast and watching TV, which is similarly exciting to what a lot of people were doing at the time, and nobody's particularly interested in reading these ones - even though I've just told all.

IvaBigWun · 11-09-2014 12:36AM

35cent wrote: »

I was in 6th class at the time. My mum told me she was cancelling the trip to New York we were going to take in a few months time. I asked her why and then she pointed at the TV. I thought some idiot pilot flew into one of the towers by accident. I learnt about the other planes that flew into the other tower and the pentagon, I realised it was a terrorist attack and I watched it on TV for a while and that's pretty much it.

Oh, and I don't think it was a conspiracy.

Did she go ahead with cancelling that?

Buford T Justice · 11-09-2014 12:40AM

I was driving a rigid truck when the news of a 'tragic accident' where a small plane had hit the twin towers broke.

It was the most surreal experience I can recall personally. Having being used to the normal radio routine for any given day, all radio stations basically cancelled all of their schedules to report live on what was happening. I remember hearing the second plane hit on the radio.

Finished work, went home and watched sky news for the evening.

smellmepower · 11-09-2014 12:45AM

Supposed to be in a lecture,but was in bed watching TV.Was about 3pm or so when I flicked past Sky News and the first tower had just been hit.

Visited the trade centre memorial/Freedom Tower thingy a few months back,and was absolutely astonished at a fair few people taking grinning selfies with the plaques that bore the names of the people who died that day.

Karl Stein · 11-09-2014 12:56AM

I was in a Chinese opium den staring at a stuffed cat.

Shakespeare's Sister · 11-09-2014 12:58AM

The breakfast I was eating was Corn Flakes. Kelloggs.

IvaBigWun · 11-09-2014 01:02AM

smellmepower wrote: »

Visited the trade centre memorial/Freedom Tower thingy a few months back,and was absolutely astonished at a fair few people taking grinning selfies with the plaques that bore the names of the people who died that day.

And then they posted them to Facebook with the caption "nvr 4get. 9/11 4eva!!!!11!"

Sir Arthur Daley · 11-09-2014 01:12AM

I was shopping in lidl buying big brands at bargain prices.

_Whimsical_ · 11-09-2014 04:00AM

I was in bed sick when I saw it on tv, it interrupted Oprah! Initially it was reported as an accident in a news Flash on rte. Then the second plane hit and suddenly everything took on a different, much more frightening complexion

Later on that evening my mum brought me to the doctor and then next door to a coffee shop that was exclusively staffed by Americans. They didn't seem to have heard at all even though it was nearly two hours later. Eventually someone mentioned it at the counter and for whatever reason, possibly shock, they couldn't take it the enormity of it at all. They just responded with "oh dear that's awful , have a nice day now". It didn't become a topic of conversation between them and no one switched on a radio or made an effort to find out more . It was very, very surreal.

TwoShedsJackson · 11-09-2014 07:59AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

I believe it was a black op. Simple as. It worked, it made billions and like getting shut of Kennedy, it will always be "a mystery". Fair fecks to the ruthless fcukers, they really did think big, in fairness.

How did it 'make billions' when the US spent over a trillion dollars on the war in Iraq?

Canis Lupus · 11-09-2014 08:25AM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

How did it 'make billions' when the US spent over a trillion dollars on the war in Iraq?

Not the government/America but the companies that won all those military contracts (am I recalling the right name, Halliburton for example?).

Personally it being an inside job is a load of bull. It surprises me how many people, even normally level headed ones think it's a conspiracy. People be weird.

Fallschirmjager · 11-09-2014 08:55AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Not the government/America but the companies that won all those military contracts (am I recalling the right name, Halliburton for example?).

Personally it being an inside job is a load of bull. It surprises me how many people, even normally level headed ones think it's a conspiracy. People be weird.

Honestly, I think people want it to be a conspiracy, that way they still feel they have control. That some guy in Langley or in Edwards air force base or the bilderberger group deciding and they won't push it too far. It's the same with ISIS, has to be the Americans or those darned joooos.

The reality is there are some really nasty mad ****ers floating around out there, who, and to quote batman, just want to see the world burn...

bnt · 11-09-2014 09:01AM

At lunch break on a training course I was on, trying to get my email on one of the PCs there, wondering why it was impossible to get to the BBC News website all of a sudden ...

When it comes to conspiracy theories about how those buildings collapsed, I start by checking how much the theorists know about Steel, the material holding those buildings up. The answer is almost always Nothing.

Steel is not some magical material that keeps all its strength in all circumstances. Heat it to a few hundred degrees - well below its melting point - and it loses a good chunk of its strength. If you design a column to take a force straight down, that's one thing, but if that same column is suddenly bending, because other columns have been removed by (say) an aircraft, the stresses are multiplied and the steel can fail. There's no mystery as to why the steel in those buildings couldn't cope with the changed structural conditions.

industrialhorse · 11-09-2014 09:08AM

I was watching footage of it in a local shop at 3pm irish time when I was on my way home from school.

To me it was a false flag attack which gave the American government (masterfully controlled by the Rothschild and Rockefeller dynasties) the perfect excuse to go invading Afghanistan and Iraq and basically set up a strong base in the middle east so that they could keep a close eye on Iran and any other arab countries who firmly reject the western ideology

JC01 · 11-09-2014 09:18AM

bnt wrote: »

At lunch break on a training course I was on, trying to get my email on one of the PCs there, wondering why it was impossible to get to the BBC News website all of a sudden ...

When it comes to conspiracy theories about how those buildings collapsed, I start by checking how much the theorists know about Steel, the material holding those buildings up. The answer is almost always Nothing.

Steel is not some magical material that keeps all its strength in all circumstances. Heat it to a few hundred degrees - well below its melting point - and it loses a good chunk of its strength. If you design a column to take a force straight down, that's one thing, but if that same column is suddenly bending, because other columns have been removed by (say) an aircraft, the stresses are multiplied and the steel can fail. There's no mystery as to why the steel in those buildings couldn't cope with the changed structural conditions.

I'm not in the mood of having a big debate on whether or not it actually was a conspiracy. But as someone who doesn't know a whole lot about steel but would assume what you just said to be true the one single thing that always gets me is with all that twisting/bending/ stretching of the structural steel in the fire, how could the two towers drop in on themselves so incredibly "neatly".

Iv seen several unrelated documentarys on demolising experts knocking skyscrapers and it's always apparent the massive amount of engineering and planning neccasary to make one of these buildings do exactly what the towers did on 9/11.
Imagine the looks you'd get in a world where 9/11 never happened telling some of these engineers and mathamaticians " ah fire a jet into the side of her there and save yourself the hassle" I suspect you would be laughed at.

Jake Rugby Walrus666 · 11-09-2014 09:32AM

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

The reality is there are some really nasty mad ****ers floating around out there, who, and to quote batman, just want to see the world burn...

The 101st Airborne?

rob316 · 11-09-2014 11:40AM

I'll never forget where I was and hopefully it will remain the most significant terrorist attack ever. I kept watching it and thinking this cant be real it must be a movie. 50 years from now we will still be commemorating the anniversary. Its not the worst thing to happen ever but due to the high profile location and how it unfolded before our very eyes on TV its a day that can never be forgotten. A lot of us will have been to New York and/or been in the WTC and to see what happened happen was truly shocking. I fully expect my children to ask me where I was that day and how I remember it.

13 years now, I can still remember every part of that day like yesterday.

Duggy747 · 11-09-2014 11:49AM

I was buying a pack of Hunky Dorys from a vending machine when a person came up beside me and told me the towers were gone.

I thought it was some strange joke or an exaggeration of some kind so it wasn't until I got to a TV and saw that both towers were destroyed that I realised what was going on. Couple that with the Pentagon and the other hijacked plane, it was a strange feeling knowing that this was something on an unprecedented scale but not sure what was going to happen next.

I was glued to the TV and remember that's when I saw Fox News for the first time as you could watch it's feed by pressing the red button on Sky News that gave you multiple screens to watch.

Not long after that it was added to the news channels on satellite.

Tail Docker · 11-09-2014 11:51AM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

How did it 'make billions' when the US spent over a trillion dollars on the war in Iraq?

Um, the US taxpayer spent it..the money went to someone, it just didn't vanish, believe it or not. So call it a trillion, but allowing for wastage, lets say a fair few of the good lads club made a safe billion or ten..

roro1990 · 11-09-2014 11:52AM

It was my 11th birthday, just got in the door from school with two friends and seen two huge buildings on fire. Then went to play football in a local field where some drunk man told us it was the beginning of world war 3. A memorable birthday to say the least!

Corkgirl210 · 11-09-2014 11:57AM

I was picking up my around the world tickets in usit in city.. I had booked to go to LA on way home and remember thinking will I be okay?

Little did I know.. that when I got to bali a few weeks later and wore an american flag vest top that I would get stalked & approached by nasty looking men.. my intuition told me to leave promptly and glad I did.. cas the very same nightclub got bombed a year later and approx 180 tourists killed!

9/11 anniversary, where were you when it happened and was it a conspiracy?

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