New British Road Safety Vid (Distressing Scenes)

Rucking_Fetard · 06-09-2014 01:35AM #1

Motorcyclists on Board Cam used, he died in the Collision.

Hard-hitting footage of a fatal collision in Norfolk has been released by police in a bid to get motorcyclists and drivers to think seriously about road safety.
The dramatic film, captured on a headcam fitted to the rider’s helmet, shows the moment a car crosses into the path of Norwich motorcyclist David Holmes who was killed on the A47 at Honingham in June last year (2013).

David’s story, a video featuring clips including the collision as well as an interview with his mother Brenda, has been produced by police with the full support of all his family, who hope the campaign will prevent further deaths.

Viewers of the video are warned that it contains content which some may find distressing, but it does not show any graphic images of the rider during or after the collision and they are given the option to refrain from viewing.

The 38-year-old had been travelling at about 97mph at the time of the collision. While he was travelling above the speed limit the driver admitted to police in interview that he had not seen David, nor a car behind the motorcycle, prior to the collision.

http://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsandevents/newsstories/2014/september/hardhittingvideolaunched.aspx

HIB · 06-09-2014 01:45AM

Distressing viewing but I think I've genuinely learned a lot from seeing that. Very generous and brave of his family to share it.

El Weirdo · 06-09-2014 01:50AM

HIB wrote: »

Distressing viewing but I think I've genuinely learned a lot from seeing that. Very generous and brave of his family to share it.

Ditto.

Fair play to his family.

Packrat · 06-09-2014 01:57AM

Pair of em in it. Only one paid the ultimate price though.

The motorist made a mistake, presumably a lapse in concentration, something which I'd hazard a guess happens us all on rare occasions. No malice.

The biker however made a conscious decision to break the speed limit by approx 60% assuming this was a 60 zone, of which we are not sure. By his mothers admission, it would have been a regular thing with him.

Of course the car driver will be demonised.

Brave family though.

Lucas Castroman · 06-09-2014 01:58AM

Idiot was going too fast, stupidity is terminal in some cases.

SureYWouldntYa · 06-09-2014 01:58AM

Makes me never want to ride a motorcycle

You're only as good as the driver you meet

The_Valeyard · 06-09-2014 02:00AM

Lucas Castroman wrote: »

Idiot was going too fast, stupidity is terminal in some cases.

Harsh comment, the lad died, but yeah way to fast, but did the car also pull out in front?

padd b1975 · 06-09-2014 02:09AM

97mph.

Inexcusable really and he paid the ultimate price for his reckless stupidity.

Lucas Castroman · 06-09-2014 02:10AM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Harsh comment, the lad died, but yeah way to fast, but did the car also pull out in front?

The short clips we're shown show him driving aggresively, weaving around traffic at excessive speed. It's frightening even watching from the perspective of his camera. Yeah the car pulled out but he emerged at excessive speed from nowhere after overtaking a car. He's very much the architect of his own downfall.

policarp · 06-09-2014 02:11AM

That should/could have been me 35 years ago.
We were crazy bikers then.

Hotfail.com · 06-09-2014 02:16AM

First thing that came to mind was "idiot", you'd think he'd have more sense at 38 years old as well. Don't think the driver of the car was at fault tbh.

darced · 06-09-2014 02:21AM

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con___manx1 · 06-09-2014 02:23AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

97mph.

Inexcusable really and he paid the ultimate price for his reckless stupidity.

The driver of the car was fairly stupid not looking left too see if any veichles were coming down the road.
I had a near miss recently where a driver failed too look in my direction. If I wasn't paying attention he would be dead now .I braked very close to the drivers door . Just over 2 meters. I was not going fast at all just a complete idiot on him mobile phone not paying attention.

conorh91 · 06-09-2014 02:25AM

Fcuk me, the sound of that man's body crashing, and then you hear the metal from his bike falling to the ground.

We need more graphic reminders of the horror that is often just moments away from any of us, if that is what it takes for greater diligence on the roads.

After a few close scrapes, I hope that cyclists, in particular, get the same chill out of this as I did.

The Backwards Man · 06-09-2014 02:26AM

Saw something similar in Cannock a few years back, a car was coming out from a junction, van that was turning in flashed him out, bike coming behind the van came around and hit the car, biker was killed (almost instantly, rose his head a few seconds after coming to rest)

Expect the unexpected folks, it could be you or me tomorrow.

Smidge · 06-09-2014 02:28AM

Very sad loss for any family but have to agree with most posters here.
He was driving not only ridiculously fast but recklessly as well.
He had been biking for 22 years and I'm amazed having seen that clip and how disobeyed the rules of the road how he actually lived that long.

The Backwards Man · 06-09-2014 02:30AM

darced wrote: »

No one expects a maniac to be approaching at 100mph at a junction

You shouldn't be on the road if you don't.

darced · 06-09-2014 02:32AM

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Sir Arthur Daley · 06-09-2014 02:34AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You shouldn't be on the road if you don't.

Have you super human characteristics that can spot such?

darced · 06-09-2014 02:36AM

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conorh91 · 06-09-2014 02:37AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You shouldn't be on the road if you don't.

OK...that's a ridiculous suggestion.

Nobody would ever cross the road, or overtake, or cross a junction, if they were genuinely expecting oncoming traffic to appear as fast as 100mph.

Whether we like it or not, use of the public road requires a certain amount of mutual trust.

We are vigilant, but at another level, we also trust people not to do stupid sh1t.

People who betray that trust are deserving of criticism.

Even though I feel sad for the biker's family in the original clip, I can understand some vilification of the biker, so long as it makes clear that his kind of behaviour is never socially acceptable.

NightOfTheHunt · 06-09-2014 02:38AM

Whether on motorbike or driving a car I always go slow enough to stop safely in the event that whatevers in front of me suddenly stops. It's not difficult, wish more people would take these simple measures. The amount of fking retards who tailgate in this country and don't give themselves enough stopping distance infuriates me.

con___manx1 · 06-09-2014 02:39AM

Packrat wrote: »

Pair of em in it. Only one paid the ultimate price though.

The motorist made a mistake, presumably a lapse in concentration, something which I'd hazard a guess happens us all on rare occasions. No malice.

The biker however made a conscious decision to break the speed limit by approx 60% assuming this was a 60 zone, of which we are not sure. By his mothers admission, it would have been a regular thing with him.

Of course the car driver will be demonised.

Brave family though.

The car driver was not paying attention to the road and killed somebody. That's dangerous driving pure and simple. I hope the driver of that car gets at least a 5 or 10 year driving ban for being such a careless idiot. The road was straight and you could have seen that bike a mile away. I don't no about you but I don't have too many lapse of concentration while Turing off secondary roads . It's a pity it was a motor bike and not a lorry that hit that idiot driver.

kowloon · 06-09-2014 02:39AM

I had someone reverse onto a main road on me before. I wasn't travelling very fast though and managed to just break a mirror off the tyre on the back of his jeep and mount the edge of the ditch. All he could say was 'I didn't see you'. If he had rolled back any faster he could have killed me, even going below the limit.

The Backwards Man · 06-09-2014 02:40AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Have you super human characteristics that can spot such?

Na, I've been in more then my fair share of accidents in my time, but if you're expecting every other road user to be where they are supposed to be at the speed they are supposed to be all the time then you're going to get in bother eventually.

Hotfail.com · 06-09-2014 02:42AM

con___manx1 wrote: »

The car driver was not paying attention to the road and killed somebody. That's dangerous driving pure and simple. I hope the driver of that car gets at least a 5 or 10 year driving ban for being such a careless idiot. The road was straight and you could have seen that bike a mile away. I don't no about you but I don't have too many lapse of concentration while Turing off secondary roads . It's a pity it was a motor bike and not a lorry that hit that idiot driver.

Are you really suggesting that the driver is the one who's more in the wrong here?

fonecrusher1 · 06-09-2014 02:48AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

if you're expecting every other road user to be where they are supposed to be at the speed they are supposed to be all the time then you're going to get in bother eventually.

And thats exactly why this guy is six feet under.

The Backwards Man · 06-09-2014 02:49AM

conorh91 wrote: »

OK...that's a ridiculous suggestion.

Nobody would ever cross the road, or overtake, or cross a junction, if they were genuinely expecting oncoming traffic to appear as fast as 100mph.

Whether we like it or not, use of the public road requires a certain amount of mutual trust.

We are vigilant, but at another level, we also trust people not to do stupid sh1t.

People who betray that trust are deserving of criticism.

Even though I feel sad for the biker's family in the original clip, I can understand some vilification of the biker, so long as it makes clear that his kind of behaviour is never socially acceptable.

Fair enough.

My Dad has been in the situation where he has killed someone on the road through no fault if his own (haven't been myself, touch wood)

The fact that the person he killed was doing 'stupid sh1t' doesn't make him feel any better.

Sir Arthur Daley · 06-09-2014 02:51AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Na, I've been in more then my fair share of accidents in my time, but if you're expecting every other road user to be where they are supposed to be at the speed they are supposed to be all the time then you're going to get in bother eventually.

So has no one been in the wrong in all the accidents you were in?

The Backwards Man · 06-09-2014 02:58AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

So has no one been in the wrong in all the accidents you were in?

Of course they have, I've been in the wrong more than once myself.

CaptainInsano · 06-09-2014 02:59AM

No excuse from either party here, idiotic driving from both. Sadly one of them had to die.
I can't fathom how anyone would drive at that speed at that time of day, the place looks busy enough. Probably the driver in the car didn't comprehend the speed he was approaching or couldn't see him at all but I would ban them off the road for sure. Never take risks.

New British Road Safety Vid (Distressing Scenes)

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