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Immigration saturation point.

  • 05-09-2014 09:21PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23


    Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
    I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

    Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

    It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

    MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

    Cheer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Hello Ongar neighbour!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    So by doing a simple observation you noticed 22 people of 4 different nationalities. Impressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    So by doing a simple observation you noticed 22 people of 4 different nationalities. Impressive.

    Must of been during the World Cup and they were wearing their respective countries jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Not really to be honest. It just sounds to me that you find yourself living in a particularly cosmopolitan part of Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Did they have badges on saying where they were from? FFS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Naimless wrote: »
    Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
    I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

    Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

    It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

    MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

    Cheer.

    I don't feel like cheering, thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Naimless


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Did they have badges on saying where they were from? FFS.

    No, why would they need that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Are you sure your're not meant to be on boards.co.uk OP ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Naimless wrote: »
    No, why would they need that?

    Explain to us how you knew there were 4 different nationalities?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    560,000 legal immigrants lliving and working her ( CSO figures)

    8000 + asylum seekers (government figures )

    And anything from 10-50,000 illegally here ,

    Personally i dont think we're at saturation ,but when you hear social housing lists where in some cases there made of 70% non nationals it doesnt sound right


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    I don't notice a lot tbh, maybe one in ten down here. Don't care much either tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Naimless


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Explain to us how you knew there were 4 different nationalities?

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Did you have to queue to get into this playground?
    If not then the answer must be no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭The Peanut


    Naimless wrote: »
    Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
    I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

    Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

    It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

    MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

    Cheer.

    Based upon a poll of 24 individuals in a playground? :rolleyes:

    I've noticed that a lot of non-Irish nationals tend to frequent playgrounds in relatively higher numbers than their overall % in Ireland; primarily I feel because they are good meeting points for other families from their home countries. The kids get to play together and the adults can chat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Ireland - because Britain and Germany were full.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Naimless wrote: »
    No, why would they need that?

    How can you tell a person is non Irish by looking at them?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ireland - because Britain and Germany were full.

    Must been those billions of Bulgarians that invaded the UK

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Must been those billions of Bulgarians that invaded the UK

    I just mean that if emigration options were the cao - we're Galway Mayo IT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Naimless wrote: »
    Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
    I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

    Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

    It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

    MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

    Cheer.


    Did you ascertain this by measuring the bumps on their head?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Naimless wrote: »
    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point

    No, it is not a normal representation of most areas. Specific areas which tend to have newer(boom) housing tend to have a higher proportion of foreigners(non-nationals for the PC brigade). Contrary to this norm is the north inner city of Dublin.

    Anywhoo, where I am in a suburb of North Dublin, the foreign contingent is definitely less than 10%. You'd be lucky to bump into a cosmopolitan as one poster called it. In reality, yes parts of Dublin are majority foreign nationals and others not. Preferably I would prefer that the mix was everywhere instead of specific districts where our newcomers would call home.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.

    Or Russian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    He was only testing for Foriegness, not gayness or what place they came from. He'd need his special lumps on the head map to find that out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.

    Or gay unemployed travellers

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

    I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Or gay unemployed travellers

    Or gay, unemployed, Muslim, single Mother, Travellers leaving buggies at bus stops.

    They're the worst them'uns are; I heard they barbecue puppies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    At least they're not capitalist Brits :D


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Naimless wrote: »
    Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
    I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

    Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

    It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

    Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

    MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

    Cheer.

    I assume you are talking of people who are not what we call white?

    I was working from home today, and while taking a break, timed it badly to coincide with the local schools lunch break, fully six of the eight customers in front of me were non caucasian

    Normally I take lunch earlier at about twelve, and everyone is caucasian

    So it appears to me your observation is flawed
    Gatling wrote: »
    560,000 legal immigrants lliving and working her ( CSO figures)
    Have you a link for that? I work with a fair few non Irish guys, all here legitimately and all fairly highly qualified, and all here legitimately

    Or gay unemployed travellers

    Ah now there's no such thing as a gay traveller, shure it's against their ethos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    anewme wrote: »
    When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

    I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

    Its shockin Joe shockin. Deyre living on our roads.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    anewme wrote: »
    When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

    I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

    The point?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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