Immigration saturation point.

Naimless

Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

Cheer.

ongarboy

Hello Ongar neighbour!

T-Maxx

So by doing a simple observation you noticed 22 people of 4 different nationalities. Impressive.

wazky

T-Maxx wrote: »

So by doing a simple observation you noticed 22 people of 4 different nationalities. Impressive.

Must of been during the World Cup and they were wearing their respective countries jersey.

P_1

Not really to be honest. It just sounds to me that you find yourself living in a particularly cosmopolitan part of Dublin

Birneybau

Did they have badges on saying where they were from? FFS.

Birneybau

Naimless wrote: »

Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

Cheer.

I don't feel like cheering, thanks

Naimless

Birneybau wrote: »

Did they have badges on saying where they were from? FFS.

No, why would they need that?

dd972

Are you sure your're not meant to be on boards.co.uk OP ?

Birneybau

Naimless wrote: »

No, why would they need that?

Explain to us how you knew there were 4 different nationalities?

Gatling

560,000 legal immigrants lliving and working her ( CSO figures)

8000 + asylum seekers (government figures )

And anything from 10-50,000 illegally here ,

Personally i dont think we're at saturation ,but when you hear social housing lists where in some cases there made of 70% non nationals it doesnt sound right

Hotfail.com

I don't notice a lot tbh, maybe one in ten down here. Don't care much either tbh.

Naimless

Birneybau wrote: »

Explain to us how you knew there were 4 different nationalities?

Phoebas

Did you have to queue to get into this playground?
If not then the answer must be no.

The Peanut

Naimless wrote: »

Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

Cheer.

Based upon a poll of 24 individuals in a playground? :rolleyes:

I've noticed that a lot of non-Irish nationals tend to frequent playgrounds in relatively higher numbers than their overall % in Ireland; primarily I feel because they are good meeting points for other families from their home countries. The kids get to play together and the adults can chat.

The Diabolical Monocle

Ireland - because Britain and Germany were full.

Annasopra

Naimless wrote: »

No, why would they need that?

How can you tell a person is non Irish by looking at them?

Annasopra

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Ireland - because Britain and Germany were full.

Must been those billions of Bulgarians that invaded the UK

The Diabolical Monocle

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Must been those billions of Bulgarians that invaded the UK

I just mean that if emigration options were the cao - we're Galway Mayo IT.

Nodin

Naimless wrote: »

Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

Cheer.

Did you ascertain this by measuring the bumps on their head?

moxin

Naimless wrote: »

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point

No, it is not a normal representation of most areas. Specific areas which tend to have newer(boom) housing tend to have a higher proportion of foreigners(non-nationals for the PC brigade). Contrary to this norm is the north inner city of Dublin.

Anywhoo, where I am in a suburb of North Dublin, the foreign contingent is definitely less than 10%. You'd be lucky to bump into a cosmopolitan as one poster called it. In reality, yes parts of Dublin are majority foreign nationals and others not. Preferably I would prefer that the mix was everywhere instead of specific districts where our newcomers would call home.

Karl Stein

Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.

Gatling

Karl Stein wrote: »

Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.

Or Russian

Nodin

He was only testing for Foriegness, not gayness or what place they came from. He'd need his special lumps on the head map to find that out.

Annasopra

Karl Stein wrote: »

Let's just be thankful none of them were gay.

Or gay unemployed travellers

anewme

When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

Karl Stein

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Or gay unemployed travellers

Or gay, unemployed, Muslim, single Mother, Travellers leaving buggies at bus stops.

They're the worst them'uns are; I heard they barbecue puppies.

Iwasfrozen

At least they're not capitalist Brits

Stheno

Naimless wrote: »

Has this country hit it's saturation point with immigration?
I ask this, as before I had my child I rarely ventured out into my neighbourhood, it was always work, home, socialising in town, parents house.

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area, and today it really made me question my post.

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland, I'm looking for other peoples views of their area, as I think we have reached saturation point.

MODS if you want to remove parts feel free, but I feel I asked this with sensitivity in mind.

Cheer.

I assume you are talking of people who are not what we call white?

I was working from home today, and while taking a break, timed it badly to coincide with the local schools lunch break, fully six of the eight customers in front of me were non caucasian

Normally I take lunch earlier at about twelve, and everyone is caucasian

So it appears to me your observation is flawed

Gatling wrote: »

560,000 legal immigrants lliving and working her ( CSO figures)

Have you a link for that? I work with a fair few non Irish guys, all here legitimately and all fairly highly qualified, and all here legitimately

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Or gay unemployed travellers

Ah now there's no such thing as a gay traveller, shure it's against their ethos

Annasopra

anewme wrote: »

When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

Its shockin Joe shockin. Deyre living on our roads.

Brian?

anewme wrote: »

When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

The point?

Pherekydes

Saturation point?

We're still 2 million off the 1841 figure.

thee glitz

anewme wrote: »

When I lived in Lucan, there ended up being only two Irish people on my road (out of 18 houses) What happened was, people bought just on the the boom, boom happened so their kept their first house, rented it out, but moved on themselves. Many of the houses ended up being rented out to rent allowance tenants. People were getting great rents, which were guaranteed by the Eastern Health Board.

I would say 70-80% of the people living there were non nationals. When I moved out of my house, a guy bought it to rent out and another family of non nationals moved in. As far as I know the last Irish family are still living there.

Is that New 'Lucan' you mean?

Brian?

thee glitz wrote: »

Is that New 'Lucan' you mean?

Is New Lucan the bit I always get lost in? Endless red brick houses and roundabouts?

keith16

what's this thread about?

Iwasfrozen

Pherekydes wrote: »

Saturation point?

We're still 2 million off the 1841 figure.

Yeah but if you were to add another 2 million immigrants to the country it would cause ethnic tensions similar to what we're seeing in the UK. If we want to avoid that scenario we have to stop the flow long before we reach two million.

catallus

OP has a problem with the foreigners using all the swings in the playground.

I feel your pain, OP.

Pawn

Naimless wrote: »

Now with my 3year old kid I'm out more especially in my area

...and you clearly don't have a lot of things to be doing. Mind your own business and stop counting people and nationalities. Make sure your own child is well looked after.

Gatling

Stheno wrote: »

Have you a link for that? I work with a fair few non Irish guys, all here legitimately and all fairly highly qualified, and all here legitimately

www.cso.ie/census#sthash.XkZPc18y.dpuf

The figures are from consensus 2012 and don't include the 20,000 who came
here in last 24 months

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/500000-foreign-nationals-are-now-calling-ireland-home-28817542.html

anewme

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Its shockin Joe shockin. Deyre living on our roads.

I've no problem with anyone living anywhere....but to be honest, it was very difficult being almost the only Irish person. A mix is great, but this was not a mix and there were a lot of social problems and I was very unhappy living there. So, as I work hard to pay for and be proud of my home, I moved, so i would be happy - life is too short.


The original poster asked for opinions, if certain areas had higher number of immigrants. I was giving my opinion from my experience, that yes, it does, which I am entitled to, just as much as you.

woodoo

This is a taste of what is to come. http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/letters/state-schools-and-islamic-beliefs-1.1916801, how this will improve Ireland remains a mystery to me.

BigBrownBear

There's loads of Indian folk on my estate, and they are really great neighbours. They all work in the health service
They're here cos they've been granted the correct visa's etc and I welcome them', for their contribution both locally and nationally

But there's a very large amount of immigrants who don't contribute to society where I live.......................

The Dagda

keith16 wrote: »

what's this thread about?

The OP is not a racist, but...

anewme

Brian? wrote: »

Is New Lucan the bit I always get lost in? Endless red brick houses and roundabouts?

Not red bricks in this place, but certainly lots of roundabouts, LOL yes it is the newer side.

thee glitz

Brian? wrote: »

Is New Lucan the bit I always get lost in? Endless red brick houses and roundabouts?

That's the one, anything south of the N4 between the Spa and Woodies, but within 3miles of Lucan village.

T-Maxx

Dem foreigners stealing our wimmin an jobs....

T-Maxx

Dem foreigners stealing our wimmin an jobs....

T-Maxx

Dem foreigners stealing our wimmin an jobs....

T-Maxx

Dem foreigners stealing our wimmin an jobs....

anewme

Brian? wrote: »

The point?

The point is, that in my and experience in response to the OP, that yes, certain areas have a high percentage of immigrants.

I was giving stats on where I lived as an example.

SaveOurLyric

Naimless wrote: »

It's a simple observation, we were in a playground and I counted 24 people, us 2 are Irish every other person (22) in there was foreign, 4 different nationalitys I counted excluding ours.

Is this a normal ratio in other parts of dublin/Ireland

It is yeh. Only 1 in 12 living in Ireland are Irish.
4.6 million people, 4.2 million foreigners. You can go days without seeing another Irish person.
Surprised you had to ask.