Murder hate crime (blacks kill whites)

crockholm · 31-08-2014 10:39AM

Nodin wrote: »

In 1870 there were barely 300,000 people in Chicago. In addition, it's widely acknowledged that the spread of the drugs trade and hard drug use increased the level of violence in the US overall.

And by 1930 there were 600,000 more chicagoans than there are today,whatever about other Points,I don't see any evidence of ethnic Whites dropping like flies-certainly not anything like murder rates among the AA Community from the late 1960s to the present day.

I thought she used the phrase a Little disingenuously to make a Point.

Chickentown · 31-08-2014 10:50AM

When a white person makes a racist comment against a black person the whole world steps up and takes notice.

But when a black person makes a racist comment against a white person...nothing.

Why is this?

Nodin · 31-08-2014 01:26PM

crockholm wrote: »

And by 1930 there were 600,000 more chicagoans than there are today,whatever about other Points,I don't see any evidence of ethnic Whites dropping like flies-certainly not anything like murder rates among the AA Community from the late 1960s to the present day.

I thought she used the phrase a Little disingenuously to make a Point.

Because the position of "ethnic whites" (which the Irish, Italians and Jews weren't considered for a long time) had improved.

Nodin · 31-08-2014 01:29PM

jank wrote: »

Race 'cataloging' has had a direct effect in electing Obama and gave black scientists,black lawyers and black police officers jobs.... Oh jebus. There are NO black scientists, polices officers or lawyers in France?
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Not making a joined up argument there, are we? I haven't stated that about France, so why are you making a straw man out of it.

jank wrote: »

Indeed if the US is so much better at race relations than France why then are African Americans much more likely to end up on the receiving end of violence and being a perpetrator of violence, even when considering other minorities in the US. Seems as per usual you want to have that vegan gluten free chocolate brownie and eat it as well.

"better" =/= racism free. You keep making these absurd statements, which aren't doing your case any good.

jank · 31-08-2014 02:14PM

Nodin wrote: »

Because the position of "ethnic whites" (which the Irish, Italians and Jews weren't considered for a long time) had improved.

How were they improved? Did race cataloging help this? Did positive discrimination help. Or was it the usual story of immigrants?

jank · 31-08-2014 02:16PM

Nodin wrote: »

Not making a joined up argument there, are we? I haven't stated that about France, so why are you making a straw man out of it.

"better" =/= racism free. You keep making these absurd statements, which aren't doing your case any good.

Sorry but the burden of proof is on you in this case. How and why does race cataloging help elect Obama and give black people in the US jobs? You offer no empirical evidence to back your point, just meaningless guff.

Nodin · 31-08-2014 02:22PM

jank wrote: »

How were they improved? Did race cataloging help this? Did positive discrimination help. Or was it the usual story of immigrants?

If you can tell a second generation Irishman from an American, I bow to your psychic skills.

jank wrote: »

How and why does race cataloging help elect Obama and give black people in the US jobs? You offer no empirical evidence to back your point, just meaningless guff.

You seem to be getting angry. This aids you not.

You've never heard of positive discrimination? That I find hard to believe.

bb1234567 · 31-08-2014 11:02PM

Chickentown wrote: »

When a white person makes a racist comment against a black person the whole world steps up and takes notice.

But when a black person makes a racist comment against a white person...nothing.

Why is this?

Because it doesnt have the same effect. White people are the ones in power. If I go to my bosses office and shout YOURE FIRED it doesnt have the same effect as if he were to do the same to me..because of positions of power.

Amazingfun · 31-08-2014 11:17PM

More uncomfortable truth:

WOULD IT KILL YOU TO HIRE MORE BLACK COPS? (YES)

As the story of Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson's shooting of Michael Brown begins to look less clear-cut than we were led to believe by Brown's friend, Dorian Johnson, the "voices of oppression" on MSNBC now say the real issue is that there aren't enough blacks on the Ferguson police force.

As Brown may or may not have said seconds before his death: I give up.

If the Ferguson police are forced to hire more minorities and women for the sake of diversity, the one thing we can be sure of is that more black people will be murdered, raped and assaulted.

Someone's got to say it, so it might as well be me: I'm against more black people being murdered, raped and assaulted.

In a massive, detailed 2000 study of the effect of court-ordered affirmative action plans on police departments, economist John Lott found that the more minorities on a police force, the higher the rates of murder, manslaughter, violent crime, robbery and aggravated assault will be. Violent crime increased by a minimum of 3.3 percent every year after affirmative action policies went into effect -- and the spike in crime was highest in black neighborhoods.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-08-27.html#read_more

RobYourBuilder · 31-08-2014 11:21PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Because it doesnt have the same effect. White people are the ones in power. If I go to my bosses office and shout YOURE FIRED it doesnt have the same effect as if he were to do the same to me..because of positions of power.

The most powerful man in America is black.

Carlos Orange · 31-08-2014 11:47PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Because it doesnt have the same effect. White people are the ones in power. If I go to my bosses office and shout YOURE FIRED it doesnt have the same effect as if he were to do the same to me..because of positions of power.

So basically you only object to the effects of racism not the ideas they represent? And you assume all black people in America are powerless.

Nodin · 01-09-2014 12:16AM

Amazingfun wrote: »

More uncomfortable truth:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-08-27.html#read_more

Ann coulter....the voice of reason.....

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 12:28AM

Interesting:

Lawsuit filed to unseal Brown's record.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/27/lawsuit-to-release-michael-browns-juvenile-criminal-record/20953546/

mphalo1 · 01-09-2014 12:29AM

RobYourBuilder wrote:

The most powerful man in America is black.

he's a puppet surrounded by white people pulling the strings as every president is ,they are far from the the most powerful

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 12:29AM

Nodin wrote: »

Ann coulter....the voice of reason.....

Is it Ann who troubles you so, or was it this bit?

In a massive, detailed 2000 study of the effect of court-ordered affirmative action plans on police departments, economist John Lott found that the more minorities on a police force, the higher the rates of murder, manslaughter, violent crime, robbery and aggravated assault will be. Violent crime increased by a minimum of 3.3 percent every year after affirmative action policies went into effect -- and the spike in crime was highest in black neighborhoods.

Nodin · 01-09-2014 01:26AM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Is it Ann who troubles you so, or was it this bit?

Right wing crank quoting another right wing crank troubles me not at all.

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 01:42AM

Nodin wrote: »

Right wing crank quoting another right wing crank troubles me not at all.

lol.
No surprise you're reduced to namecalling and the like as a desperate means of deflection from the message contained therein.

jank · 01-09-2014 04:28AM

Nodin wrote: »

If you can tell a second generation Irishman from an American, I bow to your psychic skills.

You seem to be getting angry. This aids you not.

You've never heard of positive discrimination? That I find hard to believe.

Can you care to answer my question for the 3rd time of asking?

Nodin · 01-09-2014 06:31AM

Amazingfun wrote: »

lol.
No surprise you're reduced to namecalling and the like as a desperate means of deflection from the message contained therein.

Ann "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" Coulter -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

Nodin · 01-09-2014 06:34AM

jank wrote: »

Can you care to answer my question for the 3rd time of asking?

I just told you - positive discrimination. You would not have a black president without having had African Americans assume roles in society beforehand, and you certainly aren't going to get that in a state that's just 50 years past segregation without positive discrimination.

Jamiekelly · 01-09-2014 08:31AM

This thread stinks of "I'm not racist but..."

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 11:26AM

Nodin wrote: »

Ann "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" Coulter -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

Why are you repeatedly attacking the writer and posting irrelevant articles? :pac:

Let's focus again on the bit that seems have prompted your panicked flailing about:

In a massive, detailed 2000 study of the effect of court-ordered affirmative action plans on police departments, economist John Lott found that the more minorities on a police force, the higher the rates of murder, manslaughter, violent crime, robbery and aggravated assault will be. Violent crime increased by a minimum of 3.3 percent every year after affirmative action policies went into effect -- and the spike in crime was highest in black neighborhoods.

I guess we can only speculate what it is about this piece of data that has you so flummoxed.

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 11:28AM

Jamiekelly wrote: »

This thread stinks of "I'm not racist but..."

Thanks for that valuable contribution to the thread.

:rolleyes:

bb1234567 · 01-09-2014 12:03PM

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

The most powerful man in America is black.

And Oprah Winfrey is what, the richest woman on earth? Im not sure but yeah
OF COURSE there are exceptions. On the whole black people are more oppressed than white people in america and have less power/wealth and have a lower quality of life than the average white person

Hoop66 · 01-09-2014 12:21PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Why are you repeatedly attacking the writer and posting irrelevant articles? :pac:

Let's focus again on the bit that seems have prompted your panicked flailing about:

I guess we can only speculate what it is about this piece of data that has you so flummoxed.

John Lott is a fucking buffoon, and his studies are completely flawed - he made up a "student" of his and had her praise his work online for fuck's sake.

Amazing how his "studies" always point to: more guns = better or: black people = bad.

Jamiekelly · 01-09-2014 01:01PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Thanks for that valuable contribution to the thread.

:rolleyes:

You're more than welcome.

mphalo1 · 01-09-2014 01:54PM

thebannerboy wrote:

I just read a very interesting article about a trial in America where two white people were beaten to death outside a McDonald's in Texas university. The story was not widely reported in the media, no idea why not when if two innocent black people were beaten to death by a group of whites. Now the blacks are out protesting about the killing of a so called 'harmless' black teen in Missouri. Oh the hypocrisy!

because whites owe the blacks for the slavery years , so let them kill us whites if they want and do anything else they want too . we owe them so turn a blind eye like the rest of our weak race

RobYourBuilder · 01-09-2014 01:59PM

mphalo1 wrote: »

because whites owe the blacks for the slavery years , so let them kill us whites if they want and do anything else they want too . we owe them so turn a blind eye like the rest of our weak race

Are you on the jar this early in the day?

Amazingfun · 01-09-2014 02:09PM

Hoop66 wrote: »

John Lott is a fucking buffoon, and his studies are completely flawed - he made up a "student" of his and had her praise his work online for fuck's sake.

Amazing how his "studies" always point to: more guns = better or: black people = bad.

I see the well established tactic of name-calling continues :pac:

Hoop66 · 01-09-2014 02:16PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

I see the well established tactic of name-calling continues :pac:

I calls it as I sees it. Please, explain why he isn't a buffoon?

Is it, perhaps, because his ludicrously flawed studies happen to back up your worldview?

Can you accept that using someone as widely discredited as Lott to back up your position weakens said position?

Murder hate crime (blacks kill whites)

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