9yo accidentally kills gun instructor

Tokyo · 27-08-2014 09:58AM

GerB40 wrote: »

I hope this isn't in bad taste but do you mind if I ask, where did you fire an Uzi? I'm assuming America but any closer to home would slightly worry me.

Surprisingly no, not America, though I do try to get in some handgun practice there whenever I'm over. I worked in Cambodia about 14/15 years ago when the country was still in recovery and quite dangerous, and you could get your hands on AK's, M-16's, Uzi's etc if you wanted to shoot. Uzi is a horrible gun to shoot IMHO, rapid rate of fire means that (a) it's hard to control - the nose of the gun rises rapidly, and (b) it jams - a lot.

I don't consider myself a gun nut by any means - I see it as just another skill to learn, and I've been lucky enough to have received (proper) training at a police academy on everything up to full auto (M4 in this case).

Gun discipline and gun mentality in the US makes me cry by comparison. Beer, hell no, you're not responsible enough to drink until you're 21". Gun on the other hand...

take everything · 27-08-2014 10:05AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I blame the NRA since it's legal for a 9 year old to fire a gun at a gun range.

Jesus Christ. That's insane.

Gael23 · 27-08-2014 10:06AM

The child's parents should face charges for bringing her there in the first place.

Tokyo · 27-08-2014 10:09AM

ryanf1 wrote: »

The child's parents should face charges for bringing her there in the first place.

How does that work? If the law states that it's perfectly legal for a 9 year old to shoot an Uzi under an instructor's supervision at a gun range, then it's the law that's wrong, not the parents...

Questionable parenting skills, perhaps? But charges? Of what?

Mr. CooL ICE · 27-08-2014 10:13AM

The only thing to stop a 9 year old girl with a gun is another 9 year old girl with a gun

wes · 27-08-2014 10:14AM

The whole situation is completely insane. Surely, a 9 year old has no business firing a gun, just like they have no business driving a car, even under supervision.

old_aussie · 27-08-2014 10:17AM

Bullets and Burgers

Do you want fries with that bullet

Wossack · 27-08-2014 10:17AM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

The only thing to stop a 9 year old girl with a gun is another 9 year old girl with a gun

or a four and a half year old with 2 guns

Gone Drinking · 27-08-2014 10:17AM

ryanf1 wrote: »

The child's parents should face charges for bringing her there in the first place.

It wasn't smart, but it wasn't illegal. They're obviously gun toters, who wanted to make a video of their 9 year old firing an automatic weapon, to impress their friends and family.

You can find a thousand videos on youtube of young children firing weapons under their parents supervision.

This is a tragedy but what they did was legal. Their daughter was being tutored by a gun range expert who underestimated the power of the weapon recoil vs the child's grip and whilst he tried to stay close for safety reasons, this ended up causing his demise.

Sad sad story and my heart goes out to all the familys/friends affected but the trouble here is the gun laws, not anyone person or persons in particular. It shouldn't be legal for a child to fire a weapon.

c_man · 27-08-2014 10:19AM

Very sad. Can you imagine a 9 year old girl trying to deal with what has happened?

I suppose in a country with such lax attitudes to guns, and minors shooting uzis ( :eek: ), these kind of events have to be expected.

GerB40 · 27-08-2014 10:22AM

dark crystal wrote: »

The place was called 'Bullets and Burgers'. A lovely day out for the family :rolleyes:

I can't even begin to understand how US law allows children that young to handle deadly automatic weapons. The gun culture has just gone crazy over there.

Bullets and Burgers?? Well fúck me. I knew America was in trouble but they're verging on becoming a rogue state now. Armed militias patrol the southern border, young lads are being shot by unhinged police for being black. They're even funding Israels attempt to wipe Palestine off the map.
And this is the greatest country in the world? The propaganda machine (fox news for example) are certainly doing their job well.

Kimbot · 27-08-2014 10:24AM

Wossack wrote: »

or a four and a half year old with 2 guns

Akimbo UZI's all around

Going Strong · 27-08-2014 10:25AM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

The only thing to stop a 9 year old girl with a gun is another 9 year old girl with a gun

That's part of the school curriculum surely?

GLaDOS · 27-08-2014 10:26AM

Bullets and Burgers sounds like something from GTA

Bluefoam · 27-08-2014 10:26AM

Its okay, the best way to get over it is to just get up and start again. I'm sure they just brought in another instructor and let her start from the beginning...

Tokyo · 27-08-2014 10:27AM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Bullets and Burgers sounds like something from GTA

Bullets and Burgers.

In 'murica, only one of these things gets to be regulated.

27-08-2014 10:28AM

Kinder eggs are still too dangerous for kids though

Going Strong · 27-08-2014 10:29AM

I blame the Uzi. After all, guns don't kill people, it's people who kill people.

mad muffin · 27-08-2014 10:31AM

The gun range has released a statement:

We have decided to rename the range to; Bullets, Burgers and Bandages.

McDermotX · 27-08-2014 11:41AM

dan1895 wrote: »

Why oh why would a 9 year need to be given an Uzi? I feel sorry for the instructor but it is not normal for a little girl to be doing such activities.

You couldn't be more wrong. If she didn't have that gun, the King of England could just walk in there any time he wants, and start shoving her around.
Do you want that? Huh? Do you?

foxy farmer · 27-08-2014 12:01PM

mad muffin wrote: »

The gun range has released a statement:

We have decided to rename the range to; Bullets, Burgers and Bandages.

All jokes aside they did release a statement saying that they have reviewed their policy and will be putting better restrictions in place.
Now you have to be 12 yrs or at least 5ft to fire these type of weapons!!
Yes it still is a joke.
The greatest threat to American society isn't terrorism it is the Americans themselves.
Go to a paintball range here everyone is over 16 I'd say.

The Purveyor of Truth · 27-08-2014 12:06PM

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

The only thing to stop a 9 year old girl with a gun is another 9 year old girl with a gun

Or... you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxa-X_L8Lbg

Buona Fortuna · 27-08-2014 12:08PM

foxy farmer wrote: »

All jokes aside they did release a statement saying that they have reviewed their policy and will be putting better restrictions in place.
Now you have to be 12 yrs or at least 5ft to fire these type of weapons!!
Yes it still is a joke.
The greatest threat to American society isn't terrorism it is the Americans themselves.
Go to a paintball range here everyone is over 16 I'd say.

Kids can be feckin tempremental at times. Adults can too, but less so. So what do you do with a 9y/o having a hissy fit with a sub machine gun?

"Yes we will go to McD's again and the zoo, and you can have that bike and drive the car home."

pablomakaveli · 27-08-2014 12:27PM

Surprised the pro-gun lot haven't shown up to throw statistics at us.

"Only 2% of 9 year olds with Uzi's fatally shoot someone but 5% of 9 years olds with Uzi's stop criminals so it's actually ok to give 9 year olds Uzi's"

partyatmygaff · 27-08-2014 12:34PM

You can't drive until you're 16 and you can't drink until you're 21 but you can shoot fully automatic weapons from birth. Only in America...

Why should any 9 year old need to be trained in shooting a submachine gun anyway? The mind boggles.

Skylinehead · 27-08-2014 12:41PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

You can't drive until you're 16 and you can't drink until you're 21 but you can shoot fully automatic weapons from birth. Only in America...

Why should any 9 year old need to be trained in shooting a submachine gun anyway? The mind boggles.

Why does anybody need a submachine gun actually? Leaving aside all the self-defence justification, surely a fully automatic anything is pure overkill.

irishbarb · 27-08-2014 12:41PM

I was watching a YouTube video of a young fella in Utah recording himself driving to move in to his college dorm. He was talking about how he had everything packed up in his truck, including his SIX guns. 'Murica.

o1s1n · 27-08-2014 12:43PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Why does anybody need a submachine gun actually? Leaving aside all the self-defence justification, surely a fully automatic anything is pure overkill.

You've never hunted American deer. They tend to be extremely vicious, some even shoot back.

Remmy · 27-08-2014 12:49PM

How exactly was she strong enough to control the muzzle climb on that? What was he thinking

Bluefoam · 27-08-2014 01:00PM

Remmy wrote: »

How exactly was she strong enough to control the muzzle climb on that?

She obviously wasn't...

9yo accidentally kills gun instructor

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