Vehicles In Wheelchair Spaces

eisenberg1 · 25-08-2014 04:16PM

lolosaur wrote: »

so you have to be the disabled driver to park in the spot?

everyone on here must be able to see all the empty spaces so easily up there on your high horses.

In order to use the disabled driver only spot, the car has to display the valid blue sticker, the driver of the vehicle does not have to be disabled, as they may be driving a disabled person to/from wherever.

There, that's not so hard, is it?

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 04:19PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

In order to use the disabled driver only spot, the car has to display the valid blue sticker, the driver of the vehicle does not have to be disabled, as they may be driving a disabled person to/from wherever.

There, that's not so hard, is it?

Im sorry, if you think that in order to be disabled, you have to own a blue sticker on your car window, then there is no point talking with you.

waraf · 25-08-2014 04:19PM

I used to have a go at people (politely) when I first became disabled but after a while I accepted that some people are just dicks and going over to give them a guilt trip for 30 seconds isn't going to make them any less of a dick in the long run.

waraf · 25-08-2014 04:22PM

lolosaur wrote: »

Im sorry, if you think that in order to be disabled, you have to own a blue sticker on your car window, then there is no point talking with you.

In fairness that's not what the person said. They were referring specifically to those who are entitled to park in a disabled parking space and they're right - you must display a valid blue badge issued by the IWA regardless of your disability.

ScumLord · 25-08-2014 04:26PM

Come to think of it I've never seen a wheelchair parked in a wheelchair space, it's always a car. :mad:

RoboRat · 25-08-2014 04:28PM

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

I often wondered about these too until I had a kid. When you have a baby in a car seat, you need the extra room to open the door fully... especially very young babies who are in a maxi cosy or the likes and you take the entire seat with you.

Kichote · 25-08-2014 04:28PM

RoboRat wrote: »

I often wondered about these too until I had a kid. When you have a baby in a car seat, you need the extra room to open the door fully... especially very young babies who are in a maxi cosy or the likes and you take the entire seat with you.

In my day they were left at home or with the neighbours..

eisenberg1 · 25-08-2014 04:33PM

lolosaur wrote: »

Im sorry, if you think that in order to be disabled, you have to own a blue sticker on your car window, then there is no point talking with you.

That's not what I said, and I think you know that.

But we are getting away from the fact that you take the side of a person who used such a space, while they are able bodies, and get angry because someone challenges them.

coolbeans · 25-08-2014 04:33PM

lolosaur wrote: »

so you have to be the disabled driver to park in the spot?

everyone on here must be able to see all the empty spaces so easily up there on your high horses.

Your initial argument was so full of holes and logical fallacies it wasn't even worth a response. Then you brought the high horses into it meaning you were clearly the chair of the debating society at school. You've won now. Fair play to ye!

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 04:34PM

Kichote wrote: »

In my day they were left at home or with the neighbours..

i guess you can attribute the increase of mother and child parking spots with the decrease in child molestation these days then.

So fair play to them.

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 04:34PM

coolbeans wrote: »

Your argument was so full of holes and logic fallacies it wasn't even worth a response. Then you brought the high horses into. You've won now. Fair play to ye!

you have used fallacies in the wrong context there.

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 04:36PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

That's not what I said, and I think you know that.

But we are getting away from the fact that you take the side of a person who used such a space, while they are able bodies, and get angry because someone challenges them.

so are you saying that being pregnant is in no way disabilitating?

I am quite sure there are many women who would beg to differ.

coolbeans · 25-08-2014 04:37PM

lolosaur wrote: »

you have used fallacies in the wrong context there.

Have I? You've misquoted me BTW.

dark crystal · 25-08-2014 04:44PM

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

are you more important then me because you have kids?

Yes, of course parents are more important than non-parents. It's all a big corporate conspiracy against childless people. The biggest advantage being, we get a handful of wider parking spaces...just cause supermarkets like to point and laugh at all you non parents in your funny little regular spaces.

Nothing to do with needing extra space for removing baby car seats or aligning trolleys up besides the cars to take small children in and out or safeguarding other cars from being scraped or child safety. Nope, It's definitely because parents are simply waaaay more important than everyone else.

Yeah_Right · 25-08-2014 04:45PM

RoboRat wrote: »

I often wondered about these too until I had a kid. When you have a baby in a car seat, you need the extra room to open the door fully... especially very young babies who are in a maxi cosy or the likes and you take the entire seat with you.

These spaces are such bulls***. They are a recent invention which makes me wonder how did my parents manage back in the day without all that extra space to get the kids out of the car? How come we weren't run over in carparks while we walked an extra few metres to the door?

eisenberg1 · 25-08-2014 04:45PM

lolosaur wrote: »

so are you saying that being pregnant is in no way disabilitating?

I am quite sure there are many women who would beg to differ.

I didn't say it was or wasn't.

Bottom line is you still have to have the blue sticker to use the space.

Now do you understand.

dark crystal · 25-08-2014 04:48PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

These spaces are such bulls***. They are a recent invention which makes me wonder how did my parents manage back in the day without all that extra space to get the kids out of the car? How come we weren't run over in carparks while we walked an extra few metres to the door?

Of course people managed before them. It's just a facility that makes things a little easier for people. What's the problem exactly?

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 04:51PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

I didn't say it was or wasn't.

Bottom line is you still have to have the blue sticker to use the space.

Now do you understand.

a man with club foot gets out of a car, walks into a <snip>

a man with no legs gets out of a car, walks into a <snip>

one doesnt have a sticker.

which one, in your opinion is less deserving of the spacE?

eviltimeban · 25-08-2014 04:53PM

anncoates wrote: »

That said, I'd hate to be that kind of twat that needs to do smething principally because they're suffused with rage about trivial courtesies extended to others and not them

That's a good point - its almost to challenge them. "Its my right" blah blah blah.

The whole thing about the kid spaces - the shop / supermarket determined these are for people with kids. That's their rule. You know the "10 items or less" aisles? You don't rock up with a big trolley full of stuff there, do you? No, you queue up where you're supposed to.

Same with the parking. Just park where you're supposed to. Makes life easier for everyone.

coolbeans · 25-08-2014 04:53PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

I didn't say it was or wasn't.

Bottom line is you still have to have the blue sticker to use the space.

Now do you understand.

What lolosaur is advocating is basically a free for all where one decides if one is qualified for a space or not. Sod those who are officially sanctioned to use them based on their evidenced and verifiable need. An honour system if you will. In his world pregnant women are entitled to a blue space if they feel they need to take it. It's up to them obviously, not the law or relevant agencies. Obviously, this would also have to extend to those with backache, a sprained ankle, the flu, or any other mildly debilitating malady that can effect humanity.

Can anyone see a problem with this? Anyone?

eisenberg1 · 25-08-2014 04:54PM

lolosaur wrote: »

a man with club foot gets out of a car, walks into a <snip>

a man with no legs gets out of a car, walks into a <snip>

one doesnt have a sticker.

which one, in your opinion is less deserving of the spacE?

What exactly are you taking?

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 05:06PM

coolbeans wrote: »

What lolosaur is advocating is basically a free for all where one decides if one is qualified for a space or not. Sod those who are officially sanctioned to use them based on their evidenced and verifiable need. An honour system if you will. In his world pregnant women are entitled to a blue space if they feel they need to take it. It's up to them obviously, not the law or relevant agencies. Obviously, this would also have to extend to those with backache, a sprained ankle, the flu, or any other mildly debilitating malady that can effect humanity.

Can anyone see a problem with this? Anyone?

evidenced and verified by who?

Disabled people may have better things to be doing than to be stood around being judged as to whether their disability meets your moral charter.

coolbeans · 25-08-2014 05:14PM

lolosaur wrote: »

evidenced and verified by who?.

Hmmm, tough one that. Now you've got me thinking. Now who could possibly be qualified to decide whether one is disabled or no?. If only such people existed...you know, people who specialise in something like, I dunno, healthcare. If only such people existed. One day, maybe...

Kichote · 25-08-2014 05:16PM

lolosaur wrote: »

i guess you can attribute the increase of mother and child parking spots with the decrease in child molestation these days then.

So fair play to them.

How do you reckon there has been a decrease and how do you measure it?

eisenberg1 · 25-08-2014 05:18PM

coolbeans wrote: »

Hmmm, tough one that. Now you've got me thinking. Now who could possibly be qualified to decide whether one is disabled or no?. If only such people existed...you know, people who specialise in something like healthcare. If only such people existed. One day, maybe...

And maybe some sort of sticker that could be mounted on the dashboard.....nah, sure that would be mad.;)

coolbeans · 25-08-2014 05:19PM

eisenberg1 wrote: »

And maybe some sort of sticker that could be mounted on the dashboard.....nah, sure that would be mad.;)

You'll go far son. You'll go far.

lolosaur · 25-08-2014 05:20PM

Kichote wrote: »

How do you reckon there has been a decrease and how do you measure it?

Well if less kids are being left on their own to fend for themselves or being left with neighbours then it would decrease. unless they are being molested in the car park. I never thought of this. Ill crunch some numbers.

RoboRat · 25-08-2014 05:24PM

These spaces are such bulls***. They are a recent invention which makes me wonder how did my parents manage back in the day without all that extra space to get the kids out of the car? How come we weren't run over in carparks while we walked an extra few metres to the door?

Yep, a recent invention much the same as the likes of the maxi cosy seat that requires you to fully open the door. Must just have been a freaky coincidence though...

Larry Wildman · 25-08-2014 05:26PM

I would never park in a "disabled space".

However, I've frequently used a "disabled toilet" based on an assumption that they are "fair game" when the other toilets are occupied. Having said that, I can see why I might have to reconsider that.

But "parent and child spaces". Historically, I would never have used these but I've had something of a Damacus moment which had led to what some might call "as.hole" behaviour on my part. I drive a pretty decent car. Twice in the space of a couple of months idiots have bashed it, leaving me with bills for €400 and €500. Never again. Now I ONLY park in wider "parent and child spaces" or the last space in a row if I can. Apologies but I'm sick of forking out loot for other people's gobsh1tery.

RoboRat · 25-08-2014 05:29PM

But "parent and child spaces". Historically, I would never have used these but I've had something of a Damacus moment which had led to what some might call "as.hole" behaviour on my part. I drive a pretty decent car. Twice in the space of a couple of months idiots have bashed it, leaving me with bills for €400 and €500. Never again. Now I ONLY park in wider "parent and child spaces" or the last space in a row if I can. Apologies but I'm sick of forking out loot for other people's gobsh1tery.

Could possibly be people with children being forced to park in regular spaces and having to force the door open to get their baby into the car?

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