Vehicles In Wheelchair Spaces

Trebor176 · 24-08-2014 10:12PM #1

Is there anything more selfish than taking up a wheelchair space, if you're able-bodied? It seems that in most car parks, morons will fill these spaces, when they are perfectly capable of getting around. It means that those relying on these spaces miss out. It's pure ignorance, selfishness and laziness.

I'm only raising this, as I was in Liffey Valley today, and was amazed at how many cars were parked in such spaces outside M & S. Only one or two had wheelchair stickers in the window, while every other one didn't. There was a Mercedes in one space clamped, which was a delight to see.

athtrasna · 24-08-2014 10:14PM

I firmly believe it's tempting fate to park in such spaces. Inviting kharma to ensure you'll need one. No, nay, never would I park there.

24-08-2014 10:14PM

Able bodied people who use disabled spaces or disabled loos need a smack and a fine. Selfish, entitled, and obnoxious.

HeidiHeidi · 24-08-2014 10:21PM

I recently saw a taxi taking up not one, but TWO, disabled spaces outside a Woodies or Homebase or one of those types of stores.

As I was contemplating what I might do about this, the passenger wandered out of the shop (with no obvious disability, she looked perfecly healthy - although I accept that she may not have been - ditto for the driver - just to cover myself for future whataboutery posts) and sat into the passenger seat.

Driver (presumably the taxi licence owner) then came gambolling out carrying trays of bedding plants which went into the boot, went back into the shop and got some more, then got in and reversed out of the spaces which he'd occupied by slewing to a stop diagonally (couldn't he even had straightened up and just taken up one disabled spot?) and off they went.

Boils my blood! :mad:

24-08-2014 10:22PM

Blast them with piss

DrGreenthumb · 24-08-2014 10:24PM

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

are you more important then me because you have kids?

Trebor176 · 24-08-2014 10:25PM

Taxi drivers don't obey laws, remember? There's that Facebook page "You Park Like A C*nt. Now, I don't know how many of these are genuine, due to the nature of some of the parking in the pictures, but I should have taken a photo of the parking today and posted it.

Fr_Dougal · 24-08-2014 10:29PM

Candie wrote: »

Able bodied people who use disabled spaces or disabled loos need a smack and a fine. Selfish, entitled, and obnoxious.

Most disabled loos can be used by anyone, they aren't just for disabled people.

dmc17 · 24-08-2014 10:29PM

This judge has the right idea

24-08-2014 10:31PM

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

are you more important then me because you have kids?

They're safer for the kids and for other peoples cars because they're wider, and you can get kids in and out of carseats and trollies easier. They're by the entrance so there's less chance of a kid running around the car park, and it's better in bad weather to get tots and babies out of the rain asap. Not everyone can go shopping without the kids.

I don't mind walking another 10 seconds to the door if it'll spare a new baby being soaked or another car being scratched by a trolley or buggy.

I've no kids before anyone claims I'm biased.

maxwell smart · 24-08-2014 10:31PM

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

are you more important then me because you have kids?

To a supermarket, who want your kids to force you to buy stuff you don't want, then yes, people with kids are more important.

25-08-2014 12:03AM

Its only an issue when they call them "Mother and child parking" ... then theres trouble to be had with the car park people !

As for disabled parking , its necessary space for getting in and out be it with wheelchair etc so they cant actually use normal spaces because they are too small

Just like normal cubicle toilets are too small for moving around so they need disabled toilets .... and most places I've seen lock them to keep them for the people who need them.

AnonoBoy · 25-08-2014 12:05AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Most disabled loos can be used by anyone, they aren't just for disabled people.

It's ILLEGAL Roy!

byhookorbycrook · 25-08-2014 12:07AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Most disabled loos can be used by anyone, they aren't just for disabled people.

Don't agree, many disabled people can ONLY use a disabled loo, able bodied people have plenty to choose from. People with disabilities may have toileting issues such as poor urge control, bowel or bladder and can't wait.

byhookorbycrook · 25-08-2014 12:09AM

And I'll say straight out that I have MS, but if I have a "good legs day" (v. v. rare-twice in the last year) I leave the disabled spaces for those who aren't having one .

JonEBGud · 25-08-2014 12:23AM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

And I'll say straight out that I have MS, but if I have a "good legs day" (v. v. rare-twice in the last year) I leave the disabled spaces for those who aren't having one .

If you have a sticker, park.
If you don't have a sticker, get clamped.
Why one law for them and another law
for Lexus, Mercedes, Jaguar, Porche
and Gobshytes?

Witchie · 25-08-2014 12:23AM

My mum has Ataxia and some days she can walk fine for ages but other times she has great difficulty. She doesn't know if it is going to hit her or not so she parks in the disabled spaces (she has a badge though so not illegally doing so) but at times people must look at her and wonder why she needs it coz she looks fine and could be walking ok. 10 minutes later she could be all over the place and relying heavily on the shopping trolley to keep her from keeling over.

So while it really pees me off to see people park in these spaces if they don't have a badge but you can never really judge from how the person is walking from the car.

alias no.9 · 25-08-2014 12:30AM

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

The best are these car spaces marked for people with kids particularly at supermarkets,

are you more important then me because you have kids?

The spaces that don't require kids to walk / be pushed in buggies across the path of moving traffic are reserved for people with kids. They don't have to be the closest, Liffey Valley being a prime example of parent/toddler spaces that serve that function very well but aren't necessarily any closer to the door than a significant number of regular spaces.

The Diabolical Monocle · 25-08-2014 01:09AM

Im an equal opportunities parker/toilet user.

osarusan · 25-08-2014 01:20AM

I know there is a number you can call to report somebody driving badly - no idea what comes of that though.

Is there a place/site you can upload photographs to of cars parked in these parking spaces without the correct documentation? So the police could follow up on it?

I'd happily take photographs and send them off (if I lived in Ireland, that is).

byhookorbycrook · 25-08-2014 01:35AM

JonEBGud wrote: »

If you have a sticker, park.
If you don't have a sticker, get clamped.
Why one law for them and another law
for Lexus, Mercedes, Jaguar, Porche
and Gobshytes?

I have a badge, because most of the time, I have to use it. It's very often the difference between me being able to go somewhere like the local shop-or not.

However, some of the local pensioners here think being over 65 means they are automatically entitled to the spaces, even two ladies who live locally and can be found most evenings power walking around the local track.
(And I know neither have or need badges ,before someone says that not all disabilities that qualify for a badge are immediately visible)

FullblownRose · 25-08-2014 01:45AM

The disabled drivers association have refused to allocate badges to people who have the use of their limbs. A lot of people with working limbs but some kind of disability, have badges. How's that work?!

OP I agree it's wrong to take up a disabled space that a wheelchair user might need.

Sh1tbag OToole · 25-08-2014 01:46AM

I saw someone going around on a mobility scooter the other day but the handlebars and the front wheel looked like something you'd see on the front of a Harley, but it was still a mobility scooter that did about 1mph and .5 of a horsepower. Would anyone here object to him parking in a disabled spot?

dubscottie · 25-08-2014 01:50AM

I have kids that need to go to school.. I pay rent blah..

This is what I have from the cow that is blocking my drive AGAIN!!

They have a right.. Be it a disabled parking place, someones driveway, Females need to park..

But I have kids?? WTF

K.Flyer · 25-08-2014 01:58AM

Inconsiderate people will always park in disabled parking spaces for as long as the business' and car park owners do nothing about it.
Its like anything, if there is no proper deterrent, (e.g. clamping with a hefty financial fee), then the lazy sh!ts, who don't want a 20 yard walk, will keep parking in them.

cerastes · 25-08-2014 02:06AM

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Don't agree, many disabled people can ONLY use a disabled loo, able bodied people have plenty to choose from. People with disabilities may have toileting issues such as poor urge control, bowel or bladder and can't wait.

Many disabled loos also have baby changing facilities in them, who gets priority?
I've changed my childs nappy in some where this is available and on one occasion had someone hammering outside, as the crap was everywhere, I ignored it, had to until I was finished changing the nappy. Got a bit of a look but the facilities are shared with baby changing fold down table.
I understand people with disabilities may have issues affecting them but unless they are there when Im going in, I cant wait indefinitely in case someone turns up either.
That said I wont park in a disabled space, and people that do are the height of ignorance, and as much as I find it a very similar thing (attitude to others) when someone parks in a parent and child space it is less serious, but I still think they are cnuts, as bad are those that abuse the space, older children that have no issue getting in and out of a car, twats with grown up children, same with people that have the baby chair but no child present.

Im not sure where you are just getting the idea that there are generally plenty of options to choose from regarding toilets for able bodied people? although I think wherever there are disabled toilets there are usually standard toilets.

JonEBGud · 25-08-2014 02:08AM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Im an equal opportunities parker/toilet user.

I hope you are a teenager with no disabilities.

preston johnny · 25-08-2014 08:20AM

Maybe we could take a lesson from our French cousins, who accompany some disabled bays with a notice reading: "Vous prenez mon espace: prenez mon handicap."

This translates as "If you take my space, take my disability too".

That might give some selfish parkers pause for thought!

anncoates · 25-08-2014 08:51AM

This has been done to death before but it doesn't make it right to park in a disabled spot just because statistically, they're not used often by disabled people. The reason they're generally free is because the majority of people leave them that way in case a disabled person needs them. If everybody ignored that, they'd hardly ever be free when needed. So you paring there "when it's not being used" is a selfish luxury afforded to you by the courtesy of others.

Mother and child spaces are no biggie in comparison - just a small courtesy extended to parents by the owners. I'd personally leave them empty if I didn't have kids with me but each to their own.

That said, I'd hate to be that kind of twat that needs to do smething principally because they're suffused with rage about trivial courtesies extended to others and not them

Capt'n Midnight · 25-08-2014 09:03AM

Candie wrote: »

Able bodied people who use disabled spaces or disabled loos need a smack and a fine.

Just make them eligible.

doolox · 25-08-2014 09:05AM

A few years ago I saw a taxi driver pull into a parking space reserved for disabled people. A group of onlooking teenagers pointedly said to him "I like your wheelchair", at which the group laughed.

The taxi driver retorted, " You'll need one if you don't mind your own effin' business!"

Such a nice gentleman to have on the roads of Ireland in a public service role.....

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