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Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

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  • #1532
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    It'll be a complete waste playing Di Maria as a centre mid. Frankly he won't do too well there especially in England. He'll always be a winger/attacker who'll work hard to get the ball deep and run at teams. He can play at CM sure but they'll find out quickly he'll be wasted there. Madrid put him there to keep him happy more than less and it happened to work out some times. If anything they should try to convert Mata into an Iniesta type CM and allow Di Maria to play wide with Rooney in the centre behind Van Persie.

    But the deal hasn't gone through yet and I always said when City just missed out on him when he left Benfica that if he ever was to come to Manchester it'd be in a City shirt.


  • #1533
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    City have zero % chance of signing Di Maria - you'd have to sell several players to buy and you can't afford to lose any of your "home grown" quota.


  • #1534
    [Deleted User]
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    Can't get my head around the money being quoted for Di Maria. Madrid taking advantage of a club desperate to sign players imo


  • #1535
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Can't get my head around the money being quoted for Di Maria. Madrid taking advantage of a club desperate to sign players imo

    Madrid get plenty of cash, United get a massive marquee signing. Everyone walks away happy.


  • #1536
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Can't get my head around the money being quoted for Di Maria. Madrid taking advantage of a club desperate to sign players imo

    £75m for Di Maria is a staggering amount of money even though he is class... Madrid definitely trying to get most if not all of what they paid for J-Rod back instantly...can't blame them.


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  • #1537
    [Deleted User]
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    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Madrid get plenty of cash, United get a massive marquee signing. Everyone walks away happy.

    If Utd can afford to pay the cash fair enough. If it's at the expense of signing players in positions they actually need it's not a good move.

    It'll keep the fans who want a big name happy I suppose


  • #1538
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    World class player in big money move shocker :eek:
    Stop the presses!!!


  • #1539
    Will I Amnt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    £75m for Di Maria is a staggering amount of money even though he is class... Madrid definitely trying to get most if not all of what they paid for J-Rod back instantly...can't blame them.

    I thought he went to Sunderland?


  • #1540
    KH25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,140 ✭✭✭KH25


    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    £75m for Di Maria is a staggering amount of money even though he is class... Madrid definitely trying to get most if not all of what they paid for J-Rod back instantly...can't blame them.

    Its £55million. 70million euro.


  • #1541
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,040 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    £75m for Di Maria is a staggering amount of money even though he is class... Madrid definitely trying to get most if not all of what they paid for J-Rod back instantly...can't blame them.

    Not a hope that will be the figure.


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  • #1542
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    £75m for Di Maria is a staggering amount of money even though he is class... Madrid definitely trying to get most if not all of what they paid for J-Rod back instantly...can't blame them.

    € £

    Note the difference?


  • #1543
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Can't believe United are paying 3 billion Thai Baht for Di Maria

    you could buy Ireland for that amirite?


  • #1544
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    € £

    Note the difference?

    No confirmed fee or deal yet so let's just wait and see...if it happens to be 75m euro all well and good but nothing is for certain yet and I can't see Madrid not squeezing every cent out of wherever he goes to for him. They don't want him to leave so clearly he'll be very expensive.


  • #1545
    ctrl-alt-delete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,329 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Is Di Maria really worth 35,944,856,081 Zimbabwean Dollars?


  • #1546
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭ronjo


    ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »
    Is Di Maria really worth 35,944,856,081 Zimbabwean Dollars?

    Yeah, the Thai baht joke was funny but..


  • #1547
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    What position is Di Maria likely to take in the United formation or is it likely to change?


  • #1548
    KH25
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    CSF wrote: »
    What position is Di Maria likely to take in the United formation or is it likely to change?

    Possibly CM but more likely winger in a 4-3-3


  • #1549
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    CSF wrote: »
    What position is Di Maria likely to take in the United formation or is it likely to change?

    I certainly wouldn't be playing him at wing back or part of a midfield twosome in a 3-5-2. Mata probably won't be dropped, so that probably means a formation change.

    He can play CM as part of a threesome or on either wing in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, though the former would create issues with Mata again (unless they go with a diamond shaped midfield and use attacking wing backs. That would probably require a more traditional defensive midfielder though).


  • #1550
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    I certainly wouldn't be playing him at wing back or part of a midfield twosome in a 3-5-2. Mata probably won't be dropped, so that probably means a formation change.

    He can play CM as part of a threesome or on either wing in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, though the former would create issues with Mata again.

    Id worry about Di Maria as a CM in the premiership. Not 100% about this signing myself.


  • #1551
    Aenaes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Aenaes


    Hasn't Mata played on the left for Spain when they've played 4-3-3? Basically Mata, Rooney and Van Persie roaming and interchangeable as a front 3.


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  • #1552
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,884 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Van Gaal has always played 4-3-3 in club football up to now. I can see him moving to that at United if he has the right personnel. It really looks like he needs at least one full back, a guy who can play either side, and then somebody else for central midfield if he wants to play that.

    Di Maria is a great signing for them but I feel that one of RVP/Rooney/Mata is going to lose out here unless they make a couple of other big signings to strengthen the weaker positions in the team.

    Rojo and Di Maria played very well together in the World Cup.


  • #1553
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Aenaes wrote: »
    Hasn't Mata played on the left for Spain when they've played 4-3-3? Basically Mata, Rooney and Van Persie roaming and interchangeable as a front 3.

    He played on the left for Valencia a good bit, with Silva inside him. I think he's a bit wasted there myself, Di Maria is far more at home playing wide.

    Herrara---Fletcher
    Di Maria Mata Rooney
    Van Persie

    That could work. Whether Rooney will play wide is questionable though.


  • #1554
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Di Maria on the left, Rooney in the hole, Mata on the right and RVP up front should work. Will need Rafael or Valencia to provide the width on the right, and it'd be nice to have a proper DM next to Herrera rather than Carrick or Fletcher, but definitely feasible against the vast majority of teams we're playing this season.


  • #1555
    Hope Mushy Vibraphone
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    emmetkenny wrote: »
    Di Maria should do very well in the premiership and would be a very good signing for United.
    Maybe Van Gaal is thinking of switching to 442 by pushing Mata right and Di Maria left ?
    Not sure Mata on the right in a 4-4-2 would be feasible. He lacks the pace required.


  • #1556
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Why is Mata constantly getting pushed out of his best position? Why not just sign somebody else and keep Mata where he is?


  • #1557
    [Deleted User]
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    Van Gaal has always played 4-3-3 in club football up to now. I can see him moving to that at United if he has the right personnel. It really looks like he needs at least one full back, a guy who can play either side, and then somebody else for central midfield if he wants to play that.

    Di Maria is a great signing for them but I feel that one of RVP/Rooney/Mata is going to lose out here unless they make a couple of other big signings to strengthen the weaker positions in the team.

    Rojo and Di Maria played very well together in the World Cup.

    Yep, one of those 3 is surplus if they sign di maria


  • #1558
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Yep, one of those 3 is surplus if they sign di maria

    Yeah and tbh I think Rooney should be the one kicked out but that'll hardly happen with him being captain.


  • #1559
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,562 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Talib Fiasco wrote: »
    Yeah and tbh I think Rooney should be the one kicked out but that'll hardly happen with him being captain.

    Why not just not kick someone out and not sign Di Maria? I can't see which of those 3 he is a huge improvement on


  • #1560
    Westley Narrow Bongo
    Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Westley Narrow Bongo


    He doesn't play the same position as Rooney, he is not a forward. He's a winger or centre midfielder.


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  • #1561
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    CSF wrote: »
    Why not just not kick someone out and not sign Di Maria? I can't see which of those 3 he is a huge improvement on

    Yeah that'd obviously make the most sense...he's a great player to have and is an improvement on what they have but they have to shell a player out for the team to be most effective and tbh Rooney is the ideal guy they could have sold. If they sold Rooney and got in Di Maria a team of:

    -Herrera
    (potential DM)-Fletcher/Carrick/whoever
    Di Maria
    Mata
    RVP

    ...would be very very effective with Welbeck, Hernandez etc as impact subs.


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