Transfer Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread - Summer 2014 - Mod note in OP

Bounty Hunter · 24-08-2014 12:41AM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Why do people not realise that di Maria, will in fact play centre mid.

It's where he played for Argentina. And his best for Real Madrid. And where he played when he got his move to Real Madrid

De Gea

Smalling---Jones---Rojo
Rafael

Shaw

Herrera----DiMaria

Mata

Rooney

RVP

Is that it? even with 5 at the back that midfield just doesn't seem balanced to me. I mean maybe if they actually had Vidal instead of Herrera but are they really going to spend 30+million on a midfielder (herrera) if he isn't going to be a starter?

yabadabado · 24-08-2014 12:43AM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

"My bubble isn't burst. We're signing a world class player, it inflates my bubble."

That was a post from the United thread. A bubble being inflated while defence and midfield is ignored?

I dont think you will find any United fan saying the defense and midfield is fine.Most just realize a signing like Di Maria improves the team and who's to say more players wont be signed to improve other area's.
If United sign Di Maria it doesn't mean they cant sign other players its not mutually exclusive .
United have bought 2 defenders and a midfielder this summer so you cant say its being ignored.

adox · 24-08-2014 12:45AM

If Di Maria arrives Van Gaal will almost certainly revert to his favoured 4-3-3 formation.

yabadabado · 24-08-2014 12:45AM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

De Gea
Smalling---Jones---Rojo
Rafael
Shaw
Herrera----DiMaria
Mata
Rooney
RVP

Is that it? even with 5 at the back that midfield just doesn't seem balanced to me. I mean maybe if they actually had Vidal instead of Herrera but are they really going to spend 30+million on a midfielder (herrera) if he isn't going to be a starter?

Why does it have to be 5 at the back?

davycc · 24-08-2014 12:47AM

lots of scary depressing rumours that wellbeck will be going to spurs for 15mil pounds:(:(:(

not good enough for any prem lge team imho/donkey:o

Smithwicks Man · 24-08-2014 12:47AM

adox wrote: »

If Di Maria arrives Van Gaal will almost certainly revert to his favoured 4-3-3 formation.

I'm guessing 4-3-1-2 with Di Maria LCM and Mata behind Rvp and Rooney

Or 4-3-2-1 with Rooney a little further back.

Dempsey · 24-08-2014 12:48AM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

De Gea
Smalling---Jones---Rojo
Rafael
Shaw
Herrera----DiMaria
Mata
Rooney
RVP

Is that it? even with 5 at the back that midfield just doesn't seem balanced to me. I mean maybe if they actually had Vidal instead of Herrera but are they really going to spend 30+million on a midfielder (herrera) if he isn't going to be a starter?

Di Maria at DM, I've seen it all now

Smithwicks Man · 24-08-2014 12:48AM

davycc wrote: »

lots of scary depressing rumours that wellbeck will be going to spurs for 15mil pounds:(:(:(

not good enough for any prem lge team imho/donkey:o

Welbeck - £15m
Balotelli - £16m

:pac:

adox · 24-08-2014 12:51AM

davycc wrote: »

not good enough for any prem lge team imho/donkey:o

That really is a ludicrous statement.

Dempsey · 24-08-2014 12:52AM

Welbeck, 15m???

yabadabado · 24-08-2014 12:52AM

davycc wrote: »

lots of scary depressing rumours that wellbeck will be going to spurs for 15mil pounds:(:(:(

not good enough for any prem lge team imho/donkey:o

clueless statement

adox · 24-08-2014 12:52AM

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

I'm guessing 4-3-1-2 with Di Maria LCM and Mata behind Rvp and Rooney

Or 4-3-2-1 with Rooney a little further back.

Quite possibly. The point I was trying to make was that 5 won't be played at the back anymore and 3 not 2 will most likely be played in midfield.

davycc · 24-08-2014 12:53AM

exactly Ballotelli is a great bit of business for pool at 16m seems a lot more mature and less dispruptive these days

davycc · 24-08-2014 12:55AM

adox wrote: »

That really is a ludicrous statement.

just my observations of him-no first touch and very wasteful in front of goal- we already have adebayour lol:D

Smithwicks Man · 24-08-2014 01:01AM

adox wrote: »

Quite possibly. The point I was trying to make was that 5 won't be played at the back anymore and 3 not 2 will most likely be played in midfield.

Yeah I'd agree. Credit where credit is due to Van Gaal if he switches away from 3-5-2 only a few games into the season instead of waiting until Christmas. It can work wonders (Juventus mastered it) but it simply doesn't suit the players at his disposal.

davycc · 24-08-2014 01:03AM

i know its the mirror but:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/danny-welbeck-keen-join-tottenham-4095427

i hope to fook it aint true:o

Christy Browne · 24-08-2014 01:04AM

If Welbeck got starts upfront for a team like Spurs he'd get about 15 in the Premier League I reckon, seriously underrated player. Really hope we don't sell him.

JPA · 24-08-2014 01:04AM

davycc wrote: »

lots of scary depressing rumours that wellbeck will be going to spurs for 15mil pounds:(:(:(

not good enough for any prem lge team imho/donkey:o

Played as a striker I personally believe he could have a Sturridge-esque rejuvenation.

Dempsey · 24-08-2014 01:08AM

JPA wrote: »

Played as a striker I personally believe he could have a Sturridge-esque rejuvenation.

That will be engraved on your tombstone :pac:

Bounty Hunter · 24-08-2014 01:09AM

Dempsey wrote: »

Di Maria at DM, I've seen it all now

Im not actually suggesting it, infact I was saying that I didnt think it would work and from Utds pre - season and 1st game it would seem they are looking to play with 5 at the back so I was wondering how exactly Di Maria would fit into such a scenario.

If signed where would united play DiMaria and in what formation?

Van Gaals former 4-3-3 situation does make more sense imo but I would still think that defensively they would not be good enough for this especially if they dont upgrade in the DM position as although I rate Carrick highly I dont think uniteds defenders are good enough and would need a lot of support especially if players like Shaw and Rafeal are expected to be bombing forward and providing width.

Christy Browne · 24-08-2014 01:17AM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Im not actually suggesting it, infact I was saying that I didnt think it would work and from Utds pre - season and 1st game it would seem they are looking to play with 5 at the back so I was wondering how exactly Di Maria would fit into such a scenario.

If signed where would united play DiMaria and in what formation?

Van Gaals former 4-3-3 situation does make more sense imo but I would still think that defensively they would not be good enough for this especially if they dont upgrade in the DM position as although I rate Carrick highly I dont think uniteds defenders are good enough and would need a lot of support especially if players like Shaw and Rafeal are expected to be bombing forward and providing width.

De Gea
Rafael - Evans - Rojo - Shaw
Herrera - Carrick
Mata
Di Maria - Rooney
RVP

With Rooney acting as more of an inside forward

or

De Gea
Rafael - Evans - Rojo - Shaw
Carrick
Di Maria - Herrera
Mata
Rooney - Van Persie

JPA · 24-08-2014 01:20AM

Dempsey wrote: »

That will be engraved on your tombstone :pac:

:eek::cool:

Bounty Hunter · 24-08-2014 01:28AM

Christy Browne wrote: »

De Gea
Rafael - Evans - Rojo - Shaw
Herrera - Carrick
Mata
Di Maria - Rooney
RVP

With Rooney acting as more of an inside forward

or

De Gea
Rafael - Evans - Rojo - Shaw
Carrick
Di Maria - Herrera
Mata
Rooney - Van Persie

Thats kinda what I thought if it was a 4-3-3 of sorts. The De Jong rumours that seem to be back today (Sunday) would make sense with that lineup too as I think they do need a hard ba$tard sitting infront of the defence becuase the attacking part of that team looks far far better than the defensive part.

kryogen · 24-08-2014 01:55AM

If United could line up a front 6 of

--Herrera----De Jong/Carrick----Di Maria

Mata

RVP

Rooney

it would have promise, but it would be very reliant on the full backs, namely Rafa and Shaw staying fit for most of the season as they would be needed to provide the natural width. Di Maria would drift wide naturally as he did for Real when played centrally but it would not be enough to stretch teams alone.

Mikeyt086 · 24-08-2014 02:51AM

The idea that United are making a mistake by buying Di Maria when the defence and midfield need strengthening doesn't fly, not with a week left in the window. There is still time to bring in a CM and Blind, and there is no reason to stall on Di Maria. It seems as though everyone things Di Maria's signing would be at the expense of others, but if anything it gives United a stronger position in the market and takes some pressure off Woodward. That is if it gets finalised. Were it to go tits up after today, it would be very, very bad for all involved on United's end.

Rayne Wooney · 24-08-2014 05:09AM

Signing Di Maria means one of Mata, Rooney or RVP has to be benched unless he plays RWB in the 532 United have been playing lately

If more players aren't signed in CM and defence it's a baffling decision

Dont be at yourself · 24-08-2014 05:11AM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Signing Di Maria means one of Mata, Rooney or RVP has to be benched unless he plays RWB in the 532 United have been playing lately

If more players aren't signed in CM and defence it's a baffling decision

I really don't get it either... LVG is on the record as playing 5-3-2 in order to accommodate Rooney, RVP and Mata in their best positions. Are United really spending 70m to play Di Maria alongside Herrara in the centre, or as a wing back?

Smacks to me of the Mata signing: overpaying for an available big name that his club are looking to sell, in a position they don't need, to keep the fans onside.

Rayne Wooney · 24-08-2014 05:27AM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

I really don't get it either... LVG is on the record as playing 5-3-2 in order to accommodate Rooney, RVP and Mata in their best positions. Are United really spending 70m to play Di Maria alongside Herrara in the centre, or as a wing back?

Smacks to me of the Mata signing: overpaying for an available big name that his club are looking to sell, in a position they don't need, to keep the fans onside.

A midfield of Di Maria and Herrera is impractical. van Gaal has presumably given the go ahead if this happens, so it'll either come back to haunt him or be a raging success you'd think, there's no in between with Van Gaal

Asking him to play RWB is almost doubling his workload though, I don't know if most players could take that on

Kirby · 24-08-2014 06:52AM

He'll play a 4-3-3 with Di Maria, RVP and Rooney as the front three. Mata will be dropped I'd wager.

It's not what I would do but it's what I think LvG will do.

TitianGerm · 24-08-2014 10:50AM

Di Maria should do very well in the premiership and would be a very good signing for United.
Maybe Van Gaal is thinking of switching to 442 by pushing Mata right and Di Maria left ?

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