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Scrap the dole!

  • 23-08-2014 04:34AM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭


    The time has come to scrap the dole, for those on it long term anyway! No more freebies at the expense of the educated people, hard working decent people. Not the cunce who's sky sports and multi room sub is paid for by the folk who get out of bed in the morning. I'm sick busting my balls every day while these wasters longer around drinking cans of Stella at lunchtime

    We should petition the government prior to the budget, then scrap usc for us decent folk


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭magentis


    Fcuk you i drink dutch gold not that stella ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I'd have a cut off time of 3 years. Anyone dependent on JSA after 3 years is taking the piss and should absolutely be cut off. And other benefits should be cut gradually after as long as they fail to get work.

    We have a situation now where getting our unemployment rate below 10% is going to be seriously difficult because a large cohort of that 10% are more comfortable on welfare than working - even minimum wage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    Kermit do you think that would get rib a bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Grand,magic up a few hundred thousand jobs there will ya!

    (Jobbridge,CE or Gateway scheme don't count as jobs,unfortunately for this government)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭magentis


    :(Even the frogs hate us dole heads


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    The time has come to scrap the dole, for those on it long term anyway! No more freebies at the expense of the educated people, hard working decent people. Not the cunce who's sky sports and multi room sub is paid for by the folk who get out of bed in the morning. I'm sick busting my balls every day while these wasters longer around drinking cans of Stella at lunchtime

    We should petition the government prior to the budget, then scrap usc for us decent folk

    Jobs don't just appear out of nowhere just because you've been on the dole for a few years.

    Please explain how a person who has no job and is unable to get a job is meant to survive with no income, or else STFU.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    America view us as a Marxist State, Obama and the Democrats are slightly to the right of the British Conservative Party when it comes to such policy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    whirlpool wrote: »
    Jobs don't just appear out of nowhere just because you've been on the dole for a few years.

    Please explain how a person who has no job and is unable to get a job is meant to survive with no income, or else STFU.

    Thanks.

    Get educated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭magentis


    Become a lawyer like saul.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    Get educated.

    Right so.

    Someone please close this thread before people who are on the OP's level have a chance to speak.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    Education is completely free now is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    Getting real tired if this Shiite. Made redundant and struggling to get a job to the point it's looking like I may end up long term unemployed.
    So op tell me where you're gonna magic these jobs for the people desperate for them so we don't have to scrounge of your hard earned tax dollars??? Please enlighten us?
    I'm perched on the edge of my seat waiting while supping me bottle of buck fast in me free house and butlers servicing me helicopter to take me to Monte Carlo for the 5th time this year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    go overseas if you can't get work here, plenty of work available worldwide if you got the skills
    and if your unskilled whos fault is that?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    go overseas if you can't get work here, plenty of work available worldwide if you got the skills
    and if your unskilled whos fault is that?

    Depends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭salamanca22


    go overseas if you can't get work here, plenty of work available worldwide if you got the skills
    and if your unskilled whos fault is that?

    Yes there is plenty of work around the world but it all requires an investment a long term unemployed person may not be able to afford.

    Also the world needs unskilled people. If we did not have unskilled workers the economy would be a lot worse off than it is right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,365 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Made redundant and struggling to get a job to the point it's looking like I may end up long term unemployed.


    That is your problem and not anyone else though. Get yourself a job. Any job. It's not as difficult as many seem to think or want everyone else to believe. If you really want a job you could get one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    go overseas if you can't get work here, plenty of work available worldwide if you got the skills
    and if your unskilled whos fault is that?

    Care to share how you fund this transition to a new country if you're not working and the helicopter is in for a Service?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Care to share how you fund this transition to a new country if you're not working and the helicopter is in for a Service?

    get the boat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    go overseas if you can't get work here, plenty of work available worldwide if you got the skills
    and if your unskilled whos fault is that?

    So just let the unskilled starve?moving overseas requires a decent amount of seed money too,even more-so to if you have a family.

    Don't let these real life problems impinge on your idiotic opinions though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    That is your problem and not anyone else though. Get yourself a job. Any job. It's not as difficult as many seem to think or want everyone else to believe. If you really want a job you could get one.

    Really?? Jeez I never thought I could get a job if I really wanted! Right!
    So dropping my cv in everywhere then getting taken on for days unpaid training in a fricking cafe to then not get the job! Silly me, just not trying hard enough to get anything or something.

    I have fecking worked all my life even part time when I was at school so spare me the crap!
    You can't get what's not available!

    Fortunately for me I'm working on setting up my own business, can't find work? Create it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    this is afterhours if you want to discuss this issue on a more serious note and not have it turn into a mockery give Joe Duffy a call


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    this is afterhours if you want to discuss this issue on a more serious note and not have it turn into a mockery give Joe Duffy a call

    Who's joe Duffy and does he have any jobs going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    Mince Pie wrote: »

    Fortunately for me I'm working on setting up my own business, can't find work? Create it!

    That's the spirit, i'll take one of what ever your selling as long as its not the Big Issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    That's the spirit, i'll take one of what ever your selling as long as its not the Big Issue

    Dude, I'm unemployed not desperate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Have a read of the jobbridge scandal thread. There was a link yesterday. Our lovely people in charge are now ringing companies with vancanies advertised and asking them to turn real jobs into job bridge positions.

    This will only force more people to lose their jobs and claim the dole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    Have a read of the jobbridge scandal thread. There was a link yesterday. Our lovely people in charge are now ringing companies with vancanies advertised and asking them to turn real jobs into job bridge positions.

    This will only force more people to lose their jobs and claim the dole.


    If true what a shambles this country is that they want to take away paid jobs just so they can make their unploymeny numbers look better,

    i have no problem with people on the dole i've been there myself, but like many people i have a problem with people that make a lifetime of it, currently i know a good few people getting free housing and its sickening for the people that put in a hard graft only to see these people get it handed to them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    That's the spirit, i'll take one of what ever your selling as long as its not the Big Issue

    What's wrong with selling the Big Issue?surely you'd prefer those feckless unemployed wasters to be out on the streets learning entrepreneurial skills, rather than laying in bed til 2 in the afternoon wasting your precious tax money on frivolous things like food and heat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Another tiresome latenight thread.


    some of the other threads started in AH by the OP:

    One in the bum, is it moral?

    Hot young wans on tg4

    Masturbation

    Women and farting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭DrGreenthumb


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Dude, I'm unemployed not desperate

    I know your probably not desperate but maybe you should be, while abroad things got so bad for me I was about to take a charity job, and you'll laugh when you hear this job, no saftey net of the dole either so once the funds were gone it was me myself and I

    basically you set up a bbq outside a supermarket, the charity had a agreement with the supermarket so they would supply the sausages bread ect.. you didnt pay upfront but squared off at the end of the day from the profit,

    so you basically sold hot dogs for $2, for every one sold you get 1 dollar and the charity gets $1 thats after all the supplies were paid for,

    now never would i have considered ever doing a job like this but desperate times call for desperate measures, so i came home after the unpaid days training if you even wanted to call it that, had a laugh about it with my house mate and he was like are you seriously going to take that job and I said I have no choice need any income i can get, so being the sound bástard he was rang his boss there and then and said if he had anything going and he said bring him in you you tomorrow,

    now i had been looking for work for a while prior to this and also asked him to seee of there was anything going but I think he was relucent to ask because you don't want to be responsable for some joker and have it fall back on you, so once he saw that I was commited to do what i condidered to be a ****ty job he put his neck out for me and the rest is history,

    i don't really know what the point of this story is other then once people see your commited they will help you out, i'm going to shut up now as i think i wrote a essay rambling on here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    That's genius, captive audience but I sure as hell wouldn't be doing it for someone else, especially considering the concept is so simple.


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