miserable bastard farmers

wiseoldelf34 · 22-08-2014 10:48PM

90% of them have b&b and/or pubs drive taxis or work day jobs too yet they cry poor mouth .
money grabbing bastars if you ask me.

mf240 · 22-08-2014 10:51PM

At the moment farmers are getting 35 cent a litre for milk.

3.65 cents a kilo for beef

And 140 to 150 for grain.

For this (especially dairy) you need to work 7 days a week to eek out enough to live on. At calving time especially it might not be possible to get to bed for more than a couple of hours.

Its my choice, im going to stay at it and im not really one for complaining, but would like to make enough to be able to stay at it and not have all the profit creamed off by the processors and supermarkets.

takamichinoku · 22-08-2014 10:51PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

90% of them have b&b and/or pubs drive taxis or work day jobs too yet they cry poor mouth .
money grabbing bastars if you ask me.

Ah here, shove those statistics back up your arse, it's the only place they could possibly have came from

tomwaterford · 22-08-2014 10:53PM

Reggie. wrote: »

They got the engine wrong this time tho. Pure guzzlers. Many were returned to dealers around here

lord...ive not known that (gone away from AGCO employment to pastures new!!!)...as it was always there biggest selling point the diesel consumption...

they are usually a massive company and react quickly...are they planning new engine changes....must have horrendous to say they were returned...maybe they will get away with re-jigging common-rail and ad-blue setting....doubt they will if they are so bad as to be returned!!:eek::eek:
genuinely surprised by that

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

90% of them have b&b and/or pubs drive taxis or work day jobs too yet they cry poor mouth .
money grabbing bastars if you ask me.

they sure do....its suprising they have ime to complain with so many irons in the fire:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

mf240 · 22-08-2014 10:55PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

90% of them have b&b and/or pubs drive taxis or work day jobs too yet they cry poor mouth .
money grabbing bastars if you ask me.

Well we didnt ask.

wiseoldelf34 · 22-08-2014 10:55PM

well 90% of the ones i know do.hungry bastars.
I've yet to meet a poor farmer

mphalo1 · 22-08-2014 10:56PM

I worked on my uncles farm every summer as a child , it is never ending work and a way of life , we do need them and I hope they all can get the money they deserve for the hours of work they put in and not be forced to lease or sell their farm bit by bit.

P_1 · 22-08-2014 10:57PM

mf240 wrote: »

At the moment farmers are getting 35 cent a litre for milk.

3.65 cents a kilo for beef

And 140 to 150 for grain.

For this (especially dairy) you need to work 7 days a week to eek out enough to live on. At calving time especially it might not be possible to get to bed for more than a couple of hours.

Its my choice, im going to stay at it and im not really one for complaining, but would like to make enough to be able to stay at it and not have all the profit creamed off by the processors and supermarkets.

How much does it cost them to manufacture those? You'd have to wonder what on earth they are paying the likes of the IFA for if their idea of the best way of highlighting this is by protests that will generally only serve to piss off the majority of the Joe Soaps out there. Surely a well run advertising campaign or lobbying with the supermarkets would be more effective?

tomwaterford · 22-08-2014 10:57PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

well 90% of the ones i know do.hungry bastars.
I've yet to meet a poor farmer

so you know 10 farmers and nine of them own b and b/pubs or work in the incredibly lucrative taxi industry???

Reggie. · 22-08-2014 10:58PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

lord...ive not known that (gone away from AGCO employment to pastures new!!!)...as it was always there biggest selling point the diesel consumption...

they are usually a massive company and react quickly...are they planning new engine changes....must have horrendous to say they were returned...maybe they will get away with re-jigging common-rail and ad-blue setting....doubt they will if they are so bad as to be returned!!:eek::eek:
genuinely surprised by that

they sure do....its suprising they have ime to complain with so many irons in the fire:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yeah masseys out selling them here at the local dealers. They lost their niche

Reggie. · 22-08-2014 10:59PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

so you know 10 farmers and nine of them own b and b/pubs or work in the incredibly lucrative taxi industry???

Where did I go wrong that I didn't start taxing

The Letheram · 22-08-2014 10:59PM

takamichinoku wrote: »

Ah here, shove those statistics back up your arse, it's the only place they could possibly have came from

I genuinely lol'd at this reply. Legendary.

takamichinoku · 22-08-2014 10:59PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

well 90% of the ones i know do.hungry bastars.
I've yet to meet a poor farmer

Now, is that 90% of:

None
One
Two
Three

Greengrass1 · 22-08-2014 11:00PM

I would like to invite a representative from this discussion to cone to my farm and my neighbours farm for ONE week.
You can get up at the time I get up and do everything I would do day to day and then see the supermarkets make a packet off you.
How many will take up the offer?
None

Reggie. · 22-08-2014 11:00PM

P_1 wrote: »

How much does it cost them to manufacture those? You'd have to wonder what on earth they are paying the likes of the IFA for if their idea of the best way of highlighting this is by protests that will generally only serve to piss off the majority of the Joe Soaps out there. Surely a well run advertising campaign or lobbying with the supermarkets would be more effective?

People don't care about he farmers. Just look at the opening post. People just want their food as cheap as possible and don't care how that's possible

Electric Sheep · 22-08-2014 11:01PM

Well they have to poor mouth so their kids will get the 3rd level grant!

tomwaterford · 22-08-2014 11:01PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah masseys out selling them here at the local dealers. They lost their niche

as someone who has seen the inside of a few dyna gearbox and know the way irish farmers generally tend to traet/maintain/drive there tractors....this will not end well!!!

if looked after right near bullet-proof...but jesus poor maintenance/not serviced correctly.....repairs make an oil change look very cheap

GrandSoftDay · 22-08-2014 11:02PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I would like to invite a representative from this discussion to cone to my farm and my neighbours farm for ONE week.
You can get up at the time I get up and do everything I would do day to day and then see the supermarkets make a packet off you.
How many will take up the offer?
None

I will if I can drive the massey!

darragh_haven · 22-08-2014 11:03PM

wiseoldelf34 wrote: »

well 90% of the ones i know do.hungry bastars.
I've yet to meet a poor farmer

You lead a very sheltered life so.

Reggie. · 22-08-2014 11:03PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

as someone who has seen the inside of a few dyna gearbox and know the way irish farmers generally tend to traet/maintain/drive there tractors....this will not end well!!!

if looked after right near bullet-proof...but jesus poor maintenance/not serviced correctly.....repairs make an oil change look very cheap

Fendts were too fine cut machines for the local farmer. If you overfilled the back end by more than a pint of oil ya had to run for the hills

mf240 · 22-08-2014 11:03PM

P_1 wrote: »

How much does it cost them to manufacture those? You'd have to wonder what on earth they are paying the likes of the IFA for if their idea of the best way of highlighting this is by protests that will generally only serve to piss off the majority of the Joe Soaps out there. Surely a well run advertising campaign or lobbying with the supermarkets would be more effective?

I agree fully with you. I dont think pissing of the public is any help. Its only playing up to the steriotype of the miserable crying farmer.

tomwaterford · 22-08-2014 11:04PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I would like to invite a representative from this discussion to cone to my farm and my neighbours farm for ONE week.
You can get up at the time I get up and do everything I would do day to day and then see the supermarkets make a packet off you.
How many will take up the offer?
None

if you gave me Ireland free I wouldn't milk cows....now a large sheep farm...that's another prospect...was genuinely tempted to apply for that shepherding job in wales advertised in the journal

Deise67 · 22-08-2014 11:04PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I would like to invite a representative from this discussion to cone to my farm and my neighbours farm for ONE week.
You can get up at the time I get up and do everything I would do day to day and then see the supermarkets make a packet off you.
How many will take up the offer?
None

pack it sell up n get a job in a factory ! problem sorted , no didn't think so !

mf240 · 22-08-2014 11:05PM

takamichinoku wrote: »

Now, is that 90% of:
None

One

Two

Three

47.13% of statistics are false.

mahoney_j · 22-08-2014 11:05PM

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

I will if I can drive the massey!

So will I but I ain't doing any baling or wrapping or milking any jex cows!!!

Willfarman · 22-08-2014 11:06PM

If farmers make a profit they spend it on the farm. Local engineering firms make gates feeders and all kind of equipment. Local firms put up sheds, local contractors do concrete work. Animal feed companies sell more feed. Machines are bought in local firms.
There are a lot of jobs dependant on the medium sized family farm.

outside the big smoke this is the real economy.

Dont be daft · 22-08-2014 11:07PM

whupdedo wrote: »

I wonder if all the handouts, single farm payments and grants were taken off them what would happen,they'd be heading for the hay barn with short ropes in their droves if they had to survive in the real world

Irish farmers are among the most vulnerable professions to suicide and account for a disproportionate number suicides in Ireland. If you think financial pressure isn't a huge factor in these deaths then its you who needs a dose of the real world.

A comment like that is nothing short of disgusting. The only miserable fcuker here tonight is you.

GrandSoftDay · 22-08-2014 11:07PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

So will I but I ain't doing any baling or wrapping or milking any jex cows!!!

I'll do a week with you and we can put down a slab for him altogether

tomwaterford · 22-08-2014 11:07PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Fendts were too fine cut machines for the local farmer. If you overfilled the back end by more than a pint of oil ya had to run for the hills

no mind the tales of lads blowing vario boxes with 7K hours on them....did you know one time fendt wouldn't repair them boxes in Ireland/uk...they used do replacement unit from factory in Germany

Idk what the story is now with them....surly there was an opening for someone to set up doing them/or some main dealer to send a lad to Germany to learn

Reggie. · 22-08-2014 11:08PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

So will I but I ain't doing any baling or wrapping or milking any jex cows!!!

You say that now

miserable bastard farmers

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