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Alcohol Abuse Test

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ben D Bus wrote: »
    I have to be honest and say that a lot of the responses here bother me.

    Sure, the questionnaire is far from perfect, but the dismissive attitude of some posters with regard to their own drinking habits is a bit disturbing.

    The Mayflower went thataway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭Ben D Bus


    jimgoose wrote: »
    The Mayflower went thataway.

    That's exactly what I mean :(

    We have a major problem with alcohol abuse in this country and it's not just about people falling about pissed in the streets. But hey, we're Irish, we're fun when we drink. It's part of our culture so it's harmless :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    realies wrote: »

    That forum isn't meant to be a "Give up Drinking" thing. It's meant to be a social group for non alcohol related events. It even states this in the charter. All the posters there should be banned for excessive breaches of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    I got a 3...

    /hardass drunk I am


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    That forum isn't meant to be a "Give up Drinking" thing. It's meant to be a social group for non alcohol related events. It even states this in the charter. All the posters there should be banned for excessive breaches of it!




    I am sure you will report everyone of us cause your so concened mr mod.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    realies wrote: »
    I am sure you will report everyone of us cause your so concened mr mod.

    Couldn't be arsed. It's not like they don't know it happens. Admins have had to step in their a bit before too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Couldn't be arsed. It's not like they don't know it happens. Admins have had to step in their a bit before too.




    Your arsed enough to bring up here and say everyone should be banned that uses it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    realies wrote: »
    Your arsed enough to bring up here and say everyone should be banned that uses it.

    What they do there has no impact on me, which is why I couldn't be arsed. But I don't think it's right to go suggest someone to go somewhere, that they shouldn't be doing what they are looking to do.

    That's all I said. you went and dragged it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    What they do there has no impact on me, which is why I couldn't be arsed. But I don't think it's right to go suggest someone to go somewhere, that they shouldn't be doing what they are looking to do.

    That's all I said. you went and dragged it out.

    No,you also said they should be all banned,if you have such a problem with a forum here that you have never posted in, report it and the people using it, cheers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 429 ✭✭Export


    What they do there has no impact on me, which is why I couldn't be arsed. But I don't think it's right to go suggest someone to go somewhere, that they shouldn't be doing what they are looking to do.

    That's all I said. you went and dragged it out.

    What is your issue? That Realies referred someone concerned about their drinking to a non-drinkers forum? It's ambiguous in that forum though as to whether you need to be a pure pioneer or someone looking for non-alcoholic activities.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 429 ✭✭Export


    The clue is in the name: The Non Drinkers........ This suggests abstinence.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 429 ✭✭Export


    Might I suggest that it be re-named the Non-Alcoholic-Event-Forum, if that is the intention of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    encore1 wrote: »
    I couldve written your op myself!

    Did the test and got 9. I think some of the questions are a bit silly though, eg "can you drink more now than when you first started drinking?" surely everyone can...?

    And then, have you noticed you can drink less than before?

    No, I drink exactly the same amount:confused:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    realies wrote: »
    No,you also said they should be all banned,if you have such a problem with a forum here that you have never posted in, report it and the people using it, cheers.

    drag... drag... drag...

    Which I said after mentioning that forum charter states that it's not meant to happen. You know, the tongue in cheek thing that happens here?

    Export wrote: »
    What is your issue? That Realies referred someone concerned about their drinking to a non-drinkers forum? It's ambiguous in that forum though as to whether you need to be a pure pioneer or someone looking for non-alcoholic activities.
    Export wrote: »
    The clue is in the name: The Non Drinkers........ This suggests abstinence.....
    Export wrote: »
    Might I suggest that it be re-named the Non-Alcoholic-Event-Forum, if that is the intention of it?

    There's P.I if someone is concerned about a personal issue. A lot of issues with alcoholism are linked with depression, which is why that forum was never meant to be about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Credit where it's due it's the 17th best online self-test I've ever taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭DLMA23


    Borderline, I scored 8

    "If you answered “yes” to between 2 and 8 questions, you should consider arranging a personal meeting with a professional who has experience in the evaluation of alcohol problems. You should consider contacting the NCADD affiliate office nearest to you. A representative will be happy to assist you in the scheduling of a professional evaluation."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Panthro wrote: »
    11, I passed the test, woooo!!


    I should celebrate...

    Snap, I scored 11. But I plan on knuckling down over the weekend and hitting at least 15 by Monday!



    Your Self-Test Score: 11
    If you answered “yes” to more than 8 questions, you may have a serious level of alcohol-related problems requiring immediate attention and possible treatment. You should seek professional guidance. You should consider contacting the NCADD affiliate office nearest to you. A representative will be happy to assist you in the scheduling of a professional evaluation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Cantstandsya


    Ben D Bus wrote: »
    That's exactly what I mean :(

    We have a major problem with alcohol abuse in this country and it's not just about people falling about pissed in the streets. But hey, we're Irish, we're fun when we drink. It's part of our culture so it's harmless :rolleyes:


    You have a point that there is an issue with alcohol in Ireland but puritanical, religious based nonsense like this test achieve nothing other than reinforcing religious dogmas for rightwing American loonies, scaring the credulous into thinking they're alcoholics for taking 1 pint a month and making the rest scoff at and write off all such tests because of the transparent, agenda driven stupidity of its questions.

    Go look around the internet and you'll find sites from similar types proclaiming condoms to be "80 per cent effective" and other such nonsense that makes people either ignore it, become sexually dysfunctional through irrational fear or, if they're particularly stupid (which many people are) just decide condoms aren't worth using at all.

    The deliberate spread of puritanically inspired misinformation does more harm than good and is certainly no way to begin to address any serious issues, of which a few drinks at the weekend is not one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭grundie


    It's a load of nonsense. Everybody handles alcohol differently, an online test can't account for that. Plus NCADD appears to be quite anti-alcohol in its view and not just anti-alcohol abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    grundie wrote: »
    It's a load of nonsense. Everybody handles alcohol differently, an online test can't account for that. Plus NCADD appears to be quite anti-alcohol in its view and not just anti-alcohol abuse.

    Questions are nonsense anyway - do you feel guilty about drinking. I've noticed a lot of the more assholey alcoholic types feel no guilt whatsoever. Addicts in general and assholes in particular tend to be like that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    I got 19. But I'm an alcoholic who doesn't drive. If I lie a bit I might retake the test and score higher.
    Was that part of the Civil Service exam ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Why do people think being addicted to alcohol is so bad? Honest question.

    It's cheap and readily available. If you 'need' a beer to get your day started, is that so bad? Is that any different than needing a coffee to get your day started? Or a sugary doughnut?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Are you serious? Are you a real vet?
    Being addicted to anything is bad. Plus excessive alcohol consumption doesn't make for healthy living in the long term. Look at gaza in the papers today - he's 47 ffs he looks about 147!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Are you serious? Are you a real vet?
    Being addicted to anything is bad. Plus excessive alcohol consumption doesn't make for healthy living in the long term. Look at gaza in the papers today - he's 47 ffs he looks about 147!

    Paul Gascoigne. Although I take your point about Gaza - if the middle east were on two or three bottles of vodka a day it might be a solution. Bit noisy in the morning but calming down towards the evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭grundie


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Why do people think being addicted to alcohol is so bad? Honest question.

    I completely blocked a friend out of my life due to his alcohol addiction.

    We used to go out on a Friday or Saturday night for a skinfull. Then he wanted to go out both on both Friday and Saturday. Then he wanted to start going out midweek, which for me was a big no-no.

    The problem was that he needed me. He needed a friend to validate his drinking. I don't like drinking too much so I would often have a soft drink instead of a beer, he would look at me strange and ask if I was Okay? To him not sinking huge amounts of beer seemed odd. He would drink to a point where he couldn't walk and the bar staff would tell me to deal with him.

    I started making excuses to not go out. If I said I was ill, he'd say a few beers would sort me out. If I said I have no money, he'd give me money. One night I said my mother was ill (she was) so he got his teenage niece to come round and mind her.

    Myself and other friends had tried to tell him on numerous occasions that his drinking was getting out of hand, but every time he just shook his head and told us that we couldn't handle our drink.

    It all came to head one night when I got a date and he invited himself along. My date did a runner and I never saw her again. I realised he was dragging me down. He was affecting my work performance and I would never get a girlfriend if he kept getting in the way.

    So one day I just stopped answering his calls and texts and refused to open the door. Life improved for me after that.

    That's just one example of why alcohol addiction isn't all that great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    I do have a drink problem. I knew it before I took the silly test. A lot of alcoholics do not have blackouts. Most are intelligent enough not to drive drunk for a variety of reasons. Vodka on the cornflakes gets you fired therefore removing money for drink. Making it to 5 PM sober is not an issue for a lot of people.
    So rest easy. The real verdict on your level of drinking (and more importantly the affect it has on you) is when you discover your clothes on the footpath and the locks changed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    13, thought it'd be worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Bog Standard User


    Am I Alcoholic?

    Your Self-Test Score: 7

    Understanding Your Score:

    A "no" is scored 0, and a "yes" is scored 1. The score above reflects the total number of questions that were answered “yes”. A score of 2 or more indicates that you may be at greater risk for alcoholism.


    If you answered “yes” to between 2 and 8 questions, you should consider arranging a personal meeting with a professional who has experience in the evaluation of alcohol problems. You should consider contacting the NCADD affiliate office nearest to you. A representative will be happy to assist you in the scheduling of a professional evaluation.

    If you answered “yes” to more than 8 questions, you may have a serious level of alcohol-related problems requiring immediate attention and possible treatment. You should seek professional guidance. You should consider contacting the NCADD affiliate office nearest to you. A representative will be happy to assist you in the scheduling of a professional evaluation.

    To learn more or to seek immediate help, click on Find an NCADD Affiliate to locate the NCADD organization nearest to you.


    Disclaimer: Although these questions incorporate many of the common symptoms of alcoholism, the NCADD Self-Test is intended to be used for educational purposes only and should not be understood to constitute a diagnosis of alcoholism.


    Test Result Summary:

    1. Do you drink heavily when you are disappointed, under pressure or have had a quarrel
    with someone? No
    2. Can you handle more alcohol now than when you first started to drink? No
    3. Have you ever been unable to remember part of the previous evening, even though
    your friends say you didn’t pass out? No
    4. When drinking with other people, do you try to have a few extra drinks when others
    won’t know about it? No
    5. Do you sometimes feel uncomfortable if alcohol is not available? No
    6. Are you more in a hurry to get your first drink of the day than you used to be? No
    7. Do you sometimes feel a little guilty about your drinking? No
    8. Has a family member or close friend express concern or complained about your drinking? Yes
    9. Have you been having more memory “blackouts” recently? No
    10. Do you often want to continue drinking after your friends say they’ve had enough? No
    11. Do you usually have a reason for the occasions when you drink heavily? Yes
    12. When you’re sober, do you sometimes regret things you did or said while drinking? No
    13. Have you tried switching brands or drinks, or following different plans to control your
    drinking? Yes
    14. Have you sometimes failed to keep promises you made to yourself about controlling or
    cutting down on your drinking? No
    15. Have you ever had a DWI (driving while intoxicated) or DUI (driving under the influence
    of alcohol) violation, or any other legal problem related to your drinking? No
    16. Do you try to avoid family or close friends while you are drinking? No
    17. Are you having more financial, work, school, and/or family problems as a result of
    your drinking? No
    18. Has your physician ever advised you to cut down on your drinking? No
    19. Do you eat very little or irregularly during the periods when you are drinking? Yes
    20. Do you sometimes have the “shakes” in the morning and find that it helps to have a
    “little” drink, tranquilizer or medication of some kind? Yes
    21. Have you recently noticed that you can’t drink as much as you used to? Yes
    22. Do you sometimes stay drunk for several days at a time? No
    23. After periods of drinking do you sometimes see or hear things that aren’t there? No
    24. Have you ever gone to anyone for help about your drinking? No
    25. Do you ever feel depressed or anxious before, during or after periods of heavy drinking? No
    26. Have any of your blood relatives ever had a problem with alcohol? Yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Why do people think being addicted to alcohol is so bad? Honest question.

    It's cheap and readily available. If you 'need' a beer to get your day started, is that so bad? Is that any different than needing a coffee to get your day started? Or a sugary doughnut?

    I think my ex wife may be better positioned to answer that one than even I am.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Cantstandsya


    Nice essay on the issue - http://howtoplayalone.wordpress.com/hitchens-on-booze - I like the summing up:


    "But something in the Puritan soul is committed to making and keeping people miserable, even when it is *not* for their own good. Some of us have at least an inkling of the pursuit of happiness, as well as of happiness as a pursuit."


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