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Murder hate crime (blacks kill whites)

  • 21-08-2014 11:03PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭


    I just read a very interesting article about a trial in America where two white people were beaten to death outside a McDonald's in Texas university. The story was not widely reported in the media, no idea why not when if two innocent black people were beaten to death by a group of whites. Now the blacks are out protesting about the killing of a so called 'harmless' black teen in Missouri. Oh the hypocrisy!

    Anyway, just wanted to make people aware of it.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-paulin/beaten-to-death-at-mcdonalds/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Chance The Fapper


    I'm sure you must be trolling but anyway...

    The recent case is more about the abuse of power by a police offer shooting an unarmed teen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I just read a very interesting article about a trial in America where two white people were beaten to death outside a McDonald's in Texas university. The story was not widely reported in the media, no idea why when if two innocent black people were beaten to death by a group of whites. Now the blacks are out protesting about the killing of a so called 'harmless' black teen in Missouri. Oh the hypocrisy!

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-paulin/beaten-to-death-at-mcdonalds/

    I'm guessing that you're not terribly fond of black people...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    FPM is a conservative, xenophobic and racist publication. Wouldn't pay too much attention to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    No I do like them. But now I like them even more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    No I do like them. But now I like them even more.

    You're drinking too, yeah ....? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I'm sure you must be trolling but anyway...

    The recent case is more about the abuse of power by a police offer shooting an unarmed teen.

    No its not. Its about race in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,609 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    woodoo wrote: »
    No its not. Its about race in America.

    More about socio economic demographics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    FPM is a conservative, xenophobic and racist publication. Wouldn't pay too much attention to it.

    Isn't that what American liberals say about every conservative publication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Wulfie


    I just read a very interesting article about a trial in America where two white people were beaten to death outside a McDonald's in Texas university. The story was not widely reported in the media, no idea why not when if two innocent black people were beaten to death by a group of whites. Now the blacks are out protesting about the killing of a so called 'harmless' black teen in Missouri. Oh the hypocrisy!

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/david-paulin/beaten-to-death-at-mcdonalds/

    I can't see the relevance of race . People, lots of people get murdered in the usa , every single day.

    Maybe there's a website where i can read about all or some of the less internationally sensationalized newsworthy propaganda .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    Because the media can't stir it up?

    White on black crime is perfect for them to use to diminish race relations, which means viewership figures for the news companies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    Wulfie wrote: »
    I can't see the relevance of race . People, lots of people get murdered in the usa , every single day.

    Maybe there's a website where i can read about all or some of the less internationally sensationalized newsworthy propaganda .

    Actually for some bizarre reason it was not reported on main stream media. I'm baffled as to why? Afraid of a race war? Not everyday even in America you hear of a mob of 400 killing two people. Just after the words 'Your in the wrong neck of woods cowboy'.

    The protests in Missouri are against the prejudice towards blacks in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    I wonder how MalKKKay Mackay would feel about whitey getting some tough lovin from a black boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I think it ought to be remembered that going by the report, several people assisted the couples and at least one testified at the trial on their behalf, just before anyone gets too crazy. Also, its got to be remembered Ferguson is - at its heart, taking the racial tones out of it - about the potentially unjustified killing of an unarmed man by a police officer. Its also true to say that the restaurant appears to have been a very violent area with many black people being attacked - just before the beating, a gun had been drawn in the restaurant. People might equally point that the media did not report or make a big deal out of that violence. Though murder is a step up.

    It's true that if a mob of white people attacked and beat to death black people in an unprovoked assault then all hell would break loose. The media do know the answer to that issue and believe its worth highlighting. In the Ferguson case we were very quickly informed that Michael Brown was black, and that the cop who shot him was white. That was seemingly very relevant to the shooting.

    That a mob of black people attacked and beat to death a white couple in an unprovoked assault is dismissed by the same media as non-news or not unusual enough to report is pretty insulting...just not quite sure who to. Also interesting that the killers essentially got away with it - a 90 day sentence for one guy is a bit of a joke.

    I will say one thing - if I arrived into the carparks of a McDonalds and saw 400 guys hanging around outside after midnight obviously up to no good, I'd be out of there whether it was Darndale or Texas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The story was not widely reported in the media, no idea why not
    Because if the news was to report every murder in America we'd have no time for our own local news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    Sand wrote: »
    I think it ought to be remembered that going by the report, several people assisted the couples and at least one testified at the trial on their behalf, just before anyone gets too crazy.

    That a mob of black people attacked and beat to death a white couple in an unprovoked assault is dismissed by the same media as non-news or not unusual enough to report is pretty insulting...just not quite sure who to. Also interesting that the killers essentially got away with it - a 90 day sentence for one guy is a bit of a joke.

    I will say one thing - if I arrived into the carparks of a McDonalds and saw 400 guys hanging around outside after midnight obviously up to no good, I'd be out of there whether it was Darndale or Texas.

    The article says that the witness was one of the couple of white people who were in the restaurant. The people who helped, only stepped in to help her into the car after the incident.

    The fact that these young teenagers didn't realise the danger of a crowd of 400 just shows how harmless and innocent and undeserving of the brutal assault that took place. A crowd stomping on somebody who they have never met before after telling them 'they are in the wrong neck of the woods cowboy' is a pure hate crime if ever there was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Because if the news was to report every murder in America we'd have no time for our own local news.

    And its everyday you hear of 400 people of one race beating a couple of teenagers of another race to death after a racist taunt? Come on moderator even an ultra lib must be able to see that its a hate crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Killing somebody because of their skin colour is wrong full stop no matter what race the killer is or the victims are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭thebannerboy


    P_1 wrote: »
    Killing somebody because of their skin colour is wrong full stop no matter what race the killer is or the victims are.

    What do you want for that statement? A gold star?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I just read a very interesting article about a trial in America where two white people were beaten to death outside a McDonald's in Texas university. ..............
    And its everyday you hear of 400 people of one race beating a couple of
    teenagers of another race to death after a racist taunt?

    No, "they" were not beaten to death. Only one died at the restaurant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-30/mcdonald-s-loses-27-million-jury-verdict-over-2-deaths.html

    This story is two years old. One died outside the restauraunt, one died because of a car crash on the way to hospital.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    The article says that the witness was one of the couple of white people who were in the restaurant. The people who helped, only stepped in to help her into the car after the incident.
    Some nearby good-Samaritans, including a few black females, helped the frantic teens lift their dates into the 4Runner’s back seat; Ward was unable to speak or walk. Danisha Stern, a trial witness, then told them to “get out of there . . . it’s not safe.”

    I might be guilty of racial profiling here, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Danisha was one of the black females. Actually, I'm right...the article confirms it later on:
    Stern, the black good-Samaritan, testified that the black mob had piled on Ward in part because he was white; or as she explained: “He was trying to save his friend or stop the attacks…targeted at his friend. And he was a white male so I guess any — anything that was — anybody that was not helping the fight, like, adding to the injury or whatever, was seen as an opponent or something, you know.”

    Indeed, given that the article reports that the overwhelming majority of people in the carpark and the restaurant were black its safe to assume the majority of the good Samaritans were black as well. I'm not sure why its hard for you to accept that.
    The fact that these young teenagers didn't realise the danger of a crowd of 400 just shows how harmless and innocent and undeserving of the brutal assault that took place. A crowd stomping on somebody who they have never met before after telling them 'they are in the wrong neck of the woods cowboy' is a pure hate crime if ever there was one.

    I agree that it demonstrates how innocent the victims were that their immediate reaction wasn't "Nope" and to drive off and find another McDonalds without the 400 strong mob of thugs outside it.

    As for the hate crime aspect...I think that if circumstances were reversed ( a black date couple getting told they were in the wrong place, and then beaten to death by a mob of white people) the US media would go into full hysteria over it. The disinterest reflects the failure of the US media to actively seek racial tensions in some cases (like Ferguson, and Zimmerman-Martin and the Henry Louis Gates "incident" from recent times), and to self-censor in others. That doesn't mean any of those cases were hate crimes however.

    That said, I think the deeper problem is that there is a culture where 400 young men hang out, after midnight turning their neighbourhoods into "no-go" areas for anyone with half an ounce of sense. The murderous beating of the victims wasn't a freak incident - it was something coming for a very long time by all accounts with years of violence at that location. Violence by and against black people. While I think the article does draw attention to the cynical lack of media attention on the attack on the white couples, it doesn't ask why the years of violence previous to that were not reported on or tackled *before* the murder occurred.

    Personally I think the media's indulgence of race supports a self pitying, hopelessness that leads to underachievement and misdirected rage. And gangs of 400 men hanging around outside a McDonald's uselessly and violently rather than trying to improve their lives. The constant message from the media is "Don't try. Even if you become a professor like Gates, even if you become President, to the white police and the white elite you'll still be nothing".

    One of the key things leaders like MLK offered was hope. All the current generation of leaders offer is cynicism and anger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sand wrote: »
    ............

    Personally I think the media's indulgence of race supports a self pitying, hopelessness that leads to underachievement and misdirected rage. And gangs of 400 men hanging around outside a McDonald's uselessly and violently rather than trying to improve their lives. The constant message from the media is "Don't try. Even if you become a professor like Gates, even if you become President, to the white police and the white elite you'll still be nothing".

    .................

    They congregate there when the bars close. It's about as much to with race as O'Connells street on a Friday/Saturday night.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sand wrote: »
    One of the key things leaders like MLK offered was hope. All the current generation of leaders offer is cynicism and anger.

    This is the thing. While telling people to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps ain't the most effective way to get people to improve themselves, telling them they're victims and absolutely everything bad that happens to them isn't their fault doesn't promote improvement. The civil rights leaders and so on in the US have become part of the political and media machines at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Nodin wrote: »
    Friday/Saturday night.

    What's Friday/Saturday night got to do with anything?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    The media in the US shamelessly exploits/ignores these situations. See, if a white person is beaten to death or shot by a black person there is no ratings in that, the white community is unlikely to march on the streets, start riots and add violence to the situation. You definitely will not see people like a white Al Sharpton stoking the coals. When its the other way around, well its like ripping off the dressing of old wounds. Easy and predictable outcomes follow. If one then voices an opinion of the hypocrisy it all the media and social media are then quick to 'out' them.

    Take this video from the latest issue in Fergusan.


    Note the others reaction to what he is saying..


    This video is another take on it.



    Its sad that in society one cannot voice an opinion or even basic facts without being 'outted' as some pseudo Racist and the US media lap this stuff up, pushing the same tired narrative that actually does huge damage to black communities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sand wrote: »
    What's Friday/Saturday night got to do with anything?

    If you'd ever been on O'Connell street at pub closing on Friday or Saturday nignht, you'd know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Isn't that what American liberals say about every conservative publication.

    Nearly every headline had something to do with black racism against white people. I'd say it has an agenda. Possibly a gay one too. They keep mentioning "shirtless" black males.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Nodin wrote: »
    If you'd ever been on O'Connell street at pub closing on Friday or Saturday nignht, you'd know.

    The comparison would be true if those on O'Connell street were offing each other off in record numbers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Why does the color of your skin have to matter ?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Why does the color of your skin have to matter ?

    It shouldn't but we see certain groups and people agitate and use racial tensions for other selfish purposes.


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