Why do people want to watch videos of other people being beheaded?

Lapin · 20-08-2014 12:57PM

I watched one back at the time Ken Bigley was in captivity.

I don't regret it but will never watch one again.

But what I saw instilled in me a belief that the world would me much better off without the people who support such barbarity in it.

I support any action to wipe them from the surface of the earth and am wholeheartedly in favour of ethnic cleansing when it comes to these horrible deranged cunts.

They have absolutely nothing positive to contribute to humanity. Nothing.

FloatingVoter · 20-08-2014 12:57PM

buried wrote: »

But by watching one of these videos, the only thing you've actually done is witness a fullscale violent propaganda video sent out by these violent fascist Islamist scumbags to you in the west which is exactly what the fascist thrash want you to do. That's what these videos are.

Exactly, by NOT watching them you're doing your own little bit to fight the bastards. Its not signing up for the army or delivering humanitarian aid. But it is something you can NOT do from the safety of your own living room.

sbsquarepants · 20-08-2014 01:02PM

Lapin wrote: »

I watched one back at the time Ken Bigley was in captivity.

I don't regret it but will never watch one again.

But what I saw instilled in me a belief that the world would me much better off without the people who support such barbarity in it.

I support any action to wipe them from the surface of the earth and am wholeheartedly in favour of ethnic cleansing when it comes to these horrible deranged cunts.

They have absolutely nothing positive to contribute to humanity. Nothing.

So......much.....irony.....:D

Ave Sodalis · 20-08-2014 01:04PM

buried wrote: »

But by watching one of these videos, the only thing you've actually done is witness a fullscale violent propaganda video sent out by these violent fascist Islamist scumbags to you in the west which is exactly what the fascist thrash want you to do. That's what these videos are.

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

FloatingVoter · 20-08-2014 01:07PM

sup_dude wrote: »

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

People are filmed getting their heads lopped off. The torture porn is then put on general release. You're informed. Tell Enda Kenny - he'll put a stop to it.

Eoin247 · 20-08-2014 01:08PM

Put it this way. Do you think that there would be all these protests in Ireland against Israel if all these pictures of injured and bloodied kids weren't flooding our TV screens, papers and internet?

Of course not. Sure this example is more extreme, but it's apt as it shows just how low of a bar Isis is at compared to every other conflict in the world right now.

Mint Aero · 20-08-2014 01:08PM

Just to see what it looked like for me. Once ya've seen one it's enough really.

geret · 20-08-2014 01:09PM

don't watch theses videos. it's fuelling the propaganda machine and encourages more beheadings as they have an audience of millions.

sbsquarepants · 20-08-2014 01:11PM

Mint Aero wrote: »

Just to see what it looked like for me. Once ya've seen one it's enough really.

Ah, the geordie shore effect:D

buried · 20-08-2014 01:11PM

sup_dude wrote: »

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

Well I prefer to read about it not witness actual visual fascist Islamist propaganda, I won't and never will, but that's just me. Animal fascist's have been hacking peoples heads off and crucifying people for centuries, animals are gonna be animals no matter what government attempts to stop it.

Rothko · 20-08-2014 01:12PM

guttenberg wrote: »

Do you think it's right for social media companies to be able to dictate/censor what world tragedies we are allowed to see? It's a horrible thing to happen yes, but nobody should be allowed to filter what the rest of us can and can't see. For the record, I have not, nor have I any inclination to view it.

Of course not but I don't see what that has to do with what we're talking about. You don't have to watch a video of someone getting their head chopped off to learn about whatever atrocities are occurring in other parts of the world.

Lapin · 20-08-2014 01:13PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

So......much.....irony.....:D

Where ?

sbsquarepants · 20-08-2014 01:16PM

Oh, you know the bit about you not liking barbarity while simultaneously wholeheartedly supporting genocide and stuff?
There.

Chattastrophe! · 20-08-2014 01:24PM

I didn't and won't watch that video, mostly because I respect that this man and his family and loved ones probably would rather than his final horrible moments were broadcast across the world, and particularly in this manner. I know I'm only one person, and so many people have seen the video already, but it would just feel very wrong and disrespectful.

Also I can't help but think that the people who made and broadcast this video are the sick f*ckers who WANT you to watch it. They probably celebrate while watching the views mount up. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of doing what they'd like us to do.

Besides which, I'm actually happier not seeing that sort of thing. Same as how I'm not a big fan of gory movies. I keep myself educated on what's going on in the world, I read the news etc. But I feel no need to actually watch the video to educate myself. A step too far, in my opinion ... he was a real person from a loving family, with big hopes and dreams for his life ... who knows what kind of hell he went through since he went missing. Viewing his death would feel to me like one final indignity to him. I think the least people could do is respect his memory and his family's grief.

RobertKK · 20-08-2014 01:32PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

Often just morbid curiosity - think most people would try seeing something like that once and that's that... never again.

I agree with that.

Once is more than enough. I saw a video of one from Libya a few years ago where a Gaddafi recruit was in Benghazi and they beheaded him.

buried · 20-08-2014 01:34PM

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

I didn't and won't watch that video, mostly because I respect that this man and his family and loved ones probably would rather than his final horrible moments were broadcast across the world, and particularly in this manner. I know I'm only one person, and so many people have seen the video already, but it would just feel very wrong and disrespectful.

Also I can't help but think that the people who made and broadcast this video are the sick f*ckers who WANT you to watch it. They probably celebrate while watching the views mount up. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of doing what they'd like us to do.

Besides which, I'm actually happier not seeing that sort of thing. Same as how I'm not a big fan of gory movies. I keep myself educated on what's going on in the world, I read the news etc. But I feel no need to actually watch the video to educate myself. A step too far, in my opinion ... he was a real person from a loving family, with big hopes and dreams for his life ... who knows what kind of hell he went through since he went missing. Viewing his death would feel to me like one final indignity to him. I think the least people could do is respect his memory and his family's grief.

Well said, and not only that, the more view counts these videos get will further mobilize the Islamist's to produce more footage of murder and violence towards other innocent people in the future.

Lapin · 20-08-2014 01:37PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Oh, you know the bit about you not liking barbarity while simultaneously wholeheartedly supporting genocide and stuff?
There.

Fuck them. Anyone who takes a knife to someone's head and proceeds to sever it while the victim is screaming for his life doesn't deserve a place on this planet.

And the same goes for their supporters.

There is nothing barbaric about wanting such people removed from society.

Nothing ironic about it. Wishing their speedy decline and removal is perfectly justifiable.

Bang_Bang · 20-08-2014 01:43PM

I've seen a few, I don't look at them anymore. Curiosity really. Any videos that come out of Mexico are gruesome. The cartels go out of their way to be particularly cruel. The Mexican chainsaw one was particularly awful. I wouldn't watch them anymore.

con___manx1 · 20-08-2014 01:43PM

Anyone remember ken bigley. That was the first and last video I watched as a teenager. He says please mr Blair help me before someone gets a machete and cuts his head off. My mind is still disturbed by that video to this day. Do not watch any beheading videos.

chicken foot · 20-08-2014 01:45PM

I haven't watched a video but I've seen the pics of beheadings. I don't know why I look at them but when I do I get an overwhelming sense of despair that there are people in the world capable of this!

I also force myself to look at the images from Gaza because as a mother, to see a child the same age as my own blown to bits ensures and solidifies my views that this is never justified! In a strange way I do it so that I never de sensitise myself, as for me, a visual image is 1000 times more powerful than words and I would hate for the day when hearing about such atrocities wouldn't anger me!

Lapin · 20-08-2014 01:45PM

con___manx1 wrote: »

Anyone remember ken bigley.

I would hope that he should never be forgotten.

RobertKK · 20-08-2014 01:49PM

Lapin wrote: »

Fuck them. Anyone who takes a knife to someone's head and proceeds to sever it while the victim is screaming for his life doesn't deserve a place on this planet.

And the same goes for their supporters.

There is nothing barbaric about wanting such people removed from society.

Nothing ironic about it. Wishing their speedy decline and removal is perfectly justifiable.

I have no problem with bombing them as it removes a most severe threat to civilians and we have seen mass beheading, hundreds buried alive, crucified, slit throats, women taken into sex slavery and much more.

The only problem with your earlier post was you used ethically cleanse, which would be putting the people of the same ethnicity in the same bracket as the people who do these most horrific crimes.

Otherwise I agree with you.

SpaceTime · 20-08-2014 01:52PM

The people who did it want you to watch it so they can terrify you into submission. So, the simplest and most passive method of protest is to not watch it.

It's an awful and brutal act, but the message shouldn't be allowed to become any more powerful than it already is. If the hits go up on their video online, they'll probably just be convinced that their terror-PR strategy is working.

userod · 20-08-2014 01:53PM

I watched the video and I am still shaking after it (and the version I watched only showed the first maybe 2/3 seconds of the actual beheading).
There are two options here from what I can see, back down, let the Islamic State prevail and continue to surpress a nation of people for the purposes of enforcing a set of primitive disgusting religious 'laws'.

Or continue to fight against the Islamic State but sacrificing more American victims (perhaps even more in this gruesome manner).

They are nothing but barbaric wild animals with sick minds, a nonsense ideology, they are a disease of this world, and they have shown it with this video. I hope the western world crushes the Islamic State.

RobertKK · 20-08-2014 01:54PM

I think they give us a picture of reality in this world. A reality we don't want, and a reality we would rather not know about.
We need to shock ourselves with reality of the terrible crimes in this world, not necessarily by viewing a beheading but by looking and seeing what is going on in our world.

I said the other day we are not progressing as a human race. I was speaking about humans in this context when one sees the sheer violence one human can do against another human as seen in Syria and Iraq.

sbsquarepants · 20-08-2014 01:55PM

Lapin wrote: »

Fuck them. Anyone who takes a knife to someone's head and proceeds to sever it while the victim is screaming for his life doesn't deserve a place on this planet.

And the same goes for their supporters.

There is nothing barbaric about wanting such people removed from society.

Nothing ironic about it. Wishing their speedy decline and removal is perfectly justifiable.

Basically the same reasons given by every tyrant and despot for every genocide ever committed. Either they were all right, or you must be wrong.

We have to kill these people because they live for mayhem and violence whereas we are simple peace loving folk is about as blatantly obvious as an oxymoron can be. It couldn't be more obviously bullshít if it came with it's own flashing light and a screaming bullshít alarm and was still dangling from a bulls arse.

SpaceTime · 20-08-2014 01:55PM

It's like a flashback to a medieval world that we eventually overthrew in Europe during the enlightenment. I think it's something we can't ever afford to slip back to.

SpaceTime · 20-08-2014 01:57PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I think they give us a picture of reality in this world. A reality we don't want, and a reality we would rather not know about.
We need to shock ourselves with reality of the terrible crimes in this world, not necessarily by viewing a beheading but by looking and seeing what is going on in our world.

I said the other day we are not progressing as a human race. I was speaking about humans in this context when one sees the sheer violence one human can do against another human as seen in Syria and Iraq.

If you were an alien contemplating first contact and you saw this kind of stuff, you'd probably hold off for a few centuries assuming that the humans are still completely nuts despite being a bit civilised on the surface of it.

I mean when you consider that we spent 40+ years pointing progressively bigger weapons of mass destruction at each other all over a nonsense about communism vs capitalism you'd really have to wonder what kind of whack jobs we chose as leaders.

Lapin · 20-08-2014 01:59PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I have no problem with bombing them as it removes a most severe threat to civilians and we have seen mass beheading, hundreds buried alive, crucified, slit throats, women taken into sex slavery and much more.

The only problem with your earlier post was you used ethically cleanse, which would be putting the people of the same ethnicity in the same bracket as the people who do these most horrific crimes.

Otherwise I agree with you.

My use of that phrase is specifically aimed at members of the Caliphate carrying out these acts and its supporters.

I know its emotive but it best illustrates my desire to see the elimination of this particular group of people that all share the same aims and intentions.

The sooner they are all wiped out the better.

youtube! · 20-08-2014 02:01PM

Lapin wrote: »

I would hope that he should never be forgotten.

I should hope Billy Connolly never forgets him either. I was instantly turned off him after that and I never could understand how anyone could come to his shows after his sick comment.

Why do people want to watch videos of other people being beheaded?

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