Why do people want to watch videos of other people being beheaded?

Barely There

I don't get it.

Morbid fascination?
Desensitisation to violence?

Can someone explain/justify why you would want to watch a video of a fellow human, being viciously murdered in front of a camera?

o1s1n

I don't think those videos are put out for entertainment purposes...

donegal__road

why did the christians being fed to the lions attract 1,000's to the Colosseum in Rome?

MagicIRL

I imagine it's the thrill and shock factor of seeing something you know you shouldn't be seeing.

I don't subscribe to the idea myself, but I guess it's a more extreme version of watching videos of people getting hurt doing stupid things.

pablomakaveli

Just morbid curiosity for the most part. Like when people rubber neck when passing a crash site on the road.

Though there are some sick individuals who enjoy that kind of stuff as well.

Larbre34

Its a natural human reaction to see the evidence for anything for oneself. Some of the medieval goings on in the middle east have sounded so outlandish that people in other parts of the world need to see it to believe it.

Its horrific stuff though, what is seen cannot be unseen.

FURET

I watched one because I wanted to be confronted with the reality of how savage and bloodthirsty mankind can be. Doing so deepened my already high levels of misanthropy.

Playboy

Barely There wrote: »

I don't get it.

Morbid fascination?
Desensitisation to violence?

Can someone explain/justify why you would want to watch a video of a fellow human, being viciously murdered in front of a camera?

I feel like a have a duty to watch it. You cant pretend everything in the world is ok if you watch something like that. We need to be confronted with the horror of what goes on because then it may force us to do something. I dont enjoy watching it, it's going to give me sleepless nights but that poor man deserves more than our disinterest.

BeerWolf

Often just morbid curiosity - think most people would try seeing something like that once and that's that... never again.

donegal__road

FURET wrote: »

I watched one because I wanted to be confronted with the reality of how savage and bloodthirsty mankind can be. Doing so deepened my already high levels of misanthropy.

I watched one 9 years ago and I couldn't sleep for about 2 weeks.

I think people have a morbid fascination with this type of stuff as it questions our mortality, and our morality.

anncoates

They're perfect for people that like watching gore because they can solemnity excuse their viewing tastes as a vital, if unpleasant, part of being versed in current affairs

KungPao

Watched one back in about 2003, wish I didn't, can still see him sitting there scared not seeing the sick pricks taking out big daggers behind him. I'm just "glad" it was before everyone had HD cameras...the quality was pretty terrible so I was shielded somewhat from the brutality of it. I'd say the recent ones are such good quality video that you can see much more

FloatingVoter

People watch them because they are there. People are curious animals by nature. Its why we're sitting here typing twaddle and not sitting up a tree throwing bananas at each other.

Dr Strange

Maybe in some it is about their own mortality, watching the moment of death in someone else can be like that pull when standing on top of a high building or cliff.

Grayditch

Playboy wrote: »

I feel like a have a duty to watch it. You cant pretend everything in the world is ok if you watch something like that. We need to be confronted with the horror of what goes on because then it may force us to do something. I dont enjoy watching it, it's going to give me sleepless nights but that poor man deserves more than our disinterest.

I think he deserves that you don't watch the final moment of him at his most terrified and helpless. I don't buy your reasoning that you do it as some sort of duty. The report of "Man beheadded' clearly isn't enough for some people. There's a fascination there.

Rothko

Playboy wrote: »

I feel like a have a duty to watch it. You cant pretend everything in the world is ok if you watch something like that. We need to be confronted with the horror of what goes on because then it may force us to do something. I dont enjoy watching it, it's going to give me sleepless nights but that poor man deserves more than our disinterest.

It's nobody's duty to watch it and you don't have to see something like that to know that everything in the world is not ok.

calanus

I automatically remove those dingleberries from my friendlist that will upload those links to facebook with a little (large) thumbnail showing some kind of barbaric act - beheading, stoning, kids dead on the street together with a helpful comment like "OMG, I can't believe this is happening in the world please share". How about you go F*ck yourself, I'm having me breakfast

guttenberg

Suas11 wrote: »

It's nobody's duty to watch it and you don't have to see something like that to know that to know that everything in the world is not ok.

Do you think it's right for social media companies to be able to dictate/censor what world tragedies we are allowed to see? It's a horrible thing to happen yes, but nobody should be allowed to filter what the rest of us can and can't see. For the record, I have not, nor have I any inclination to view it.

Barely There

Playboy wrote: »

I feel like a have a duty to watch it. You cant pretend everything in the world is ok if you watch something like that. We need to be confronted with the horror of what goes on because then it may force us to do something. I dont enjoy watching it, it's going to give me sleepless nights but that poor man deserves more than our disinterest.

Hmmm,


Sounds like the kind of arguments people make when they download illegally - they're really just sticking it to the big corporations.

Or when they refuse to pay their taxes on the basis that they don't agree with Govt policy


Some people do certain stuff because they want to or it suits them, but then feel compelled to invent a moral argument to try to justify their position.
Your argument sounds remarkably similar to such bolloxology.



I'd have more respect for someone who just said 'I have a morbid fascination with watching someone have their head chopped off'.

Grayditch

Do people have to watch the act of rape on video to sympathise with a victim?

What the hell is wrong with people, just admit you like the creepy video cause you were curious, and stop all this "I did it for awareness" shtick.

suicide_circus

Watched one around 2003 and regretted it instantly. Beheading is a much slower process than you'd think.

Shiraz 4.99

suicide_circus wrote: »

Watched one around 2003 and regretted it instantly. Beheading is a much slower process than you'd think.

I watched the Nick Berg one from around that time, the gurgling, screaming, whimpering goes on for over 30 seconds, takes over a minute to remove the head as they hack at the spine.

Reading that is bad enough, now imagine watching it.

Vandango

As horrific as these videos are, the camera lense does dull a lot of the horror. I witnessed a motorbike accident several years ago. Standing over the severed leg of a dead motorcyclist was a very disturbing experience. I can still smell that smell. These videos are disgusting, voyeuristic and while it is impractical. I would loved to see them banned from the internet.

Ash.J.Williams

Barely There wrote: »

I don't get it.

Morbid fascination?
Desensitisation to violence?

Can someone explain/justify why you would want to watch a video of a fellow human, being viciously murdered in front of a camera?

that's life unfortunately....if people want to see what's going on in the world it's nobody elses business....

FloatingVoter

Vandango wrote: »

As horrific as these videos are, the camera lense does dull a lot of the horror. I witnessed a motorbike accident several years ago. Standing over the severed leg of a dead motorcyclist was a very disturbing experience. I can still smell that smell. These videos are disgusting, voyeuristic and while it is impractical. I would loved to see them banned from the internet.

You can't ban anything from the internet. Once a pirated movie or child porn gets online its linked to by hundreds of mirrored sites. Then thousands. And on and on.
Sure Facebook can throw them off as they go up and are identified. But to ban beheading videos at source would also involve banning stupid cat videos and Other Peoples Boring Holiday Snaps.

Ave Sodalis

Suas11 wrote: »

It's nobody's duty to watch it and you don't have to see something like that to know that to know that everything in the world is not ok.

No, but it's a lot easier to ignore, pretend it's not happening and therefore do nothing.
It's more a case of "oh poor them, that's sad" and then people forget about it. Seeing it actually happen leaves more of an impact and there's more chance of something being done.

sbsquarepants

Barely There wrote: »

I don't get it.

Morbid fascination?
Desensitisation to violence?

Can someone explain/justify why you would want to watch a video of a fellow human, being viciously murdered in front of a camera?

It's just human nature. If tomorrow the government restarted hanging people in stephens green, there would be thousands there craning their necks to get a better view.
They show "surgical" drone strikes on the news all the time, they're possible killing dozens of people. They're no less dead because the nice clean surgical americans killed you with their shiny hi tech drone than the big bad scruffy beardie Islamic nutjob with his rusty blade. Bit less of a gore factor for the viewer but you're still watching fellow humans killed for greed, oil, for playing with the wrong imaginary friend and all types of ill conceived nonsensical reasons.

FloatingVoter

Whenever this topic comes up, I'm reminded of the little old ladies bringing their knitting along to the guillotine. Back when France was interesting.

KungPao

This reminded me:

A while back I was on the WTF section of Reddit (when it used to be pretty much no rules - post what you want) and I clicked on something with a not-so-obvious title and what I saw was a gif of some poor guy who had just been ripped in half (pelvis down was separated) and it almost looked like the scene in Aliens

with Bishop near the end

except it was real.

He got hit by two trucks or something while on a motorcycle and he was cut in two. He was still alive trying to hold his insides in.

The gore was bad, but more so was the feeling of sadness for the poor guy.

I don't go for "risky clicks" any more. And try to stay away from that ****. It's not good for you.

buried

sup_dude wrote: »

No, but it's a lot easier to ignore, pretend it's not happening and therefore do nothing.
It's more a case of "oh poor them, that's sad" and then people forget about it. Seeing it actually happen leaves more of an impact and there's more chance of something being done.

But by watching one of these videos, the only thing you've actually done is witness a fullscale violent propaganda video sent out by these violent fascist Islamist scumbags to you in the west which is exactly what the fascist thrash want you to do. That's what these videos are.

sbsquarepants

Playboy wrote: »

I feel like a have a duty to watch it. You cant pretend everything in the world is ok if you watch something like that. We need to be confronted with the horror of what goes on because then it may force us to do something. I dont enjoy watching it, it's going to give me sleepless nights but that poor man deserves more than our disinterest.

That's fúcking idiotic.
You have no duty to watch anything, but now that you have made yourself watch, what action has it forced you into? In fact what action could you or anyone else possibly effect that could impact positively in anyway on some shower of psychotic religious fanatic fúckwits half away around the world anyway? You can't reason with these people, if you could they wouldn't be religious fanatics in the first place.
So, in short, I completely fail to see what positive benefit you think your duty bound sleepless nights could somehow achieve for anyone or anything?

Lapin

I watched one back at the time Ken Bigley was in captivity.

I don't regret it but will never watch one again.

But what I saw instilled in me a belief that the world would me much better off without the people who support such barbarity in it.

I support any action to wipe them from the surface of the earth and am wholeheartedly in favour of ethnic cleansing when it comes to these horrible deranged cunts.


They have absolutely nothing positive to contribute to humanity. Nothing.

FloatingVoter

buried wrote: »

But by watching one of these videos, the only thing you've actually done is witness a fullscale violent propaganda video sent out by these violent fascist Islamist scumbags to you in the west which is exactly what the fascist thrash want you to do. That's what these videos are.

Exactly, by NOT watching them you're doing your own little bit to fight the bastards. Its not signing up for the army or delivering humanitarian aid. But it is something you can NOT do from the safety of your own living room.

sbsquarepants

Lapin wrote: »

I watched one back at the time Ken Bigley was in captivity.

I don't regret it but will never watch one again.

But what I saw instilled in me a belief that the world would me much better off without the people who support such barbarity in it.

I support any action to wipe them from the surface of the earth and am wholeheartedly in favour of ethnic cleansing when it comes to these horrible deranged cunts.


They have absolutely nothing positive to contribute to humanity. Nothing.

So......much.....irony.....:D

Ave Sodalis

buried wrote: »

But by watching one of these videos, the only thing you've actually done is witness a fullscale violent propaganda video sent out by these violent fascist Islamist scumbags to you in the west which is exactly what the fascist thrash want you to do. That's what these videos are.

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

FloatingVoter

sup_dude wrote: »

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

People are filmed getting their heads lopped off. The torture porn is then put on general release. You're informed. Tell Enda Kenny - he'll put a stop to it.

Eoin247

Put it this way. Do you think that there would be all these protests in Ireland against Israel if all these pictures of injured and bloodied kids weren't flooding our TV screens, papers and internet?

Of course not. Sure this example is more extreme, but it's apt as it shows just how low of a bar Isis is at compared to every other conflict in the world right now.

Mint Aero

Just to see what it looked like for me. Once ya've seen one it's enough really.

geret

don't watch theses videos. it's fuelling the propaganda machine and encourages more beheadings as they have an audience of millions.

sbsquarepants

Mint Aero wrote: »

Just to see what it looked like for me. Once ya've seen one it's enough really.

Ah, the geordie shore effect:D

buried

sup_dude wrote: »

If a large amount of people see it, there's more chance pressure will be put on the government to do something.
I'd rather know what's actually happening than pretend it's not happening.

Well I prefer to read about it not witness actual visual fascist Islamist propaganda, I won't and never will, but that's just me. Animal fascist's have been hacking peoples heads off and crucifying people for centuries, animals are gonna be animals no matter what government attempts to stop it.

Rothko

guttenberg wrote: »

Do you think it's right for social media companies to be able to dictate/censor what world tragedies we are allowed to see? It's a horrible thing to happen yes, but nobody should be allowed to filter what the rest of us can and can't see. For the record, I have not, nor have I any inclination to view it.

Of course not but I don't see what that has to do with what we're talking about. You don't have to watch a video of someone getting their head chopped off to learn about whatever atrocities are occurring in other parts of the world.

Lapin

sbsquarepants wrote: »

So......much.....irony.....:D

Where ?

sbsquarepants

Oh, you know the bit about you not liking barbarity while simultaneously wholeheartedly supporting genocide and stuff?
There.

Chattastrophe!

I didn't and won't watch that video, mostly because I respect that this man and his family and loved ones probably would rather than his final horrible moments were broadcast across the world, and particularly in this manner. I know I'm only one person, and so many people have seen the video already, but it would just feel very wrong and disrespectful.

Also I can't help but think that the people who made and broadcast this video are the sick f*ckers who WANT you to watch it. They probably celebrate while watching the views mount up. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of doing what they'd like us to do.

Besides which, I'm actually happier not seeing that sort of thing. Same as how I'm not a big fan of gory movies. I keep myself educated on what's going on in the world, I read the news etc. But I feel no need to actually watch the video to educate myself. A step too far, in my opinion ... he was a real person from a loving family, with big hopes and dreams for his life ... who knows what kind of hell he went through since he went missing. Viewing his death would feel to me like one final indignity to him. I think the least people could do is respect his memory and his family's grief.

RobertKK

BeerWolf wrote: »

Often just morbid curiosity - think most people would try seeing something like that once and that's that... never again.

I agree with that.

Once is more than enough. I saw a video of one from Libya a few years ago where a Gaddafi recruit was in Benghazi and they beheaded him.

buried

Chattastrophe! wrote: »

I didn't and won't watch that video, mostly because I respect that this man and his family and loved ones probably would rather than his final horrible moments were broadcast across the world, and particularly in this manner. I know I'm only one person, and so many people have seen the video already, but it would just feel very wrong and disrespectful.

Also I can't help but think that the people who made and broadcast this video are the sick f*ckers who WANT you to watch it. They probably celebrate while watching the views mount up. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of doing what they'd like us to do.

Besides which, I'm actually happier not seeing that sort of thing. Same as how I'm not a big fan of gory movies. I keep myself educated on what's going on in the world, I read the news etc. But I feel no need to actually watch the video to educate myself. A step too far, in my opinion ... he was a real person from a loving family, with big hopes and dreams for his life ... who knows what kind of hell he went through since he went missing. Viewing his death would feel to me like one final indignity to him. I think the least people could do is respect his memory and his family's grief.

Well said, and not only that, the more view counts these videos get will further mobilize the Islamist's to produce more footage of murder and violence towards other innocent people in the future.

Lapin

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Oh, you know the bit about you not liking barbarity while simultaneously wholeheartedly supporting genocide and stuff?
There.

Fuck them. Anyone who takes a knife to someone's head and proceeds to sever it while the victim is screaming for his life doesn't deserve a place on this planet.

And the same goes for their supporters.

There is nothing barbaric about wanting such people removed from society.

Nothing ironic about it. Wishing their speedy decline and removal is perfectly justifiable.

Bang_Bang

I've seen a few, I don't look at them anymore. Curiosity really. Any videos that come out of Mexico are gruesome. The cartels go out of their way to be particularly cruel. The Mexican chainsaw one was particularly awful. I wouldn't watch them anymore.

con___manx1

Anyone remember ken bigley. That was the first and last video I watched as a teenager. He says please mr Blair help me before someone gets a machete and cuts his head off. My mind is still disturbed by that video to this day. Do not watch any beheading videos.

chicken foot

I haven't watched a video but I've seen the pics of beheadings. I don't know why I look at them but when I do I get an overwhelming sense of despair that there are people in the world capable of this!

I also force myself to look at the images from Gaza because as a mother, to see a child the same age as my own blown to bits ensures and solidifies my views that this is never justified! In a strange way I do it so that I never de sensitise myself, as for me, a visual image is 1000 times more powerful than words and I would hate for the day when hearing about such atrocities wouldn't anger me!