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Overseeding

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  • #92
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    It's coming but shocking slow, it il be 6 or 7 weeks old before I get a grazing off it, needs more heat, I've stopped going down to look at it and it never seemed to be gaining much

    Il put a pic up next day I'm down at it

    How long is it down?
    Have you spread any fert on it?


  • #93
    razor8
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How long is it down?
    Have you spread any fert on it?

    4 weeks this Thursday, got 2 bags 10 10 20 and 1 bag gran lime, got 2 tonne ground lime last year so I thought 1 bag enough, wet patchs are very good, dry patches barely up and nettles making a come back!


  • #94
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    4 weeks this Thursday, got 2 bags 10 10 20 and 1 bag gran lime, got 2 tonne ground lime last year so I thought 1 bag enough, wet patchs are very good, dry patches barely up and nettles making a come back!

    She needs N.
    Bag/half if pasture sward to acre and you will be grazing in two weeks.
    Was on a farm last week and ass soon as roots were strong farmer let calves in to nip it
    Up 4-5 inches week later. Much better growth on it


  • #95
    razor8
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    She needs N.
    Bag/half if pasture sward to acre and you will be grazing in two weeks.
    Was on a farm last week and ass soon as roots were strong farmer let calves in to nip it
    Up 4-5 inches week later. Much better growth on it

    Might be right, Il check it again tomorrow


  • #96
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    Might be right, Il check it again tomorrow

    I'd definitely go with more N.
    We reseeded for yrs and never put out N when it was up and you can't compare them when you put the N out


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  • #97
    just do it
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    I'd definitely go with more N.
    We reseeded for yrs and never put out N when it was up and you can't compare them when you put the N out
    Think of it like a fast growing child - it needs feed and will mop up whatever N you put out. The 10-10-20 was only to help the root system to develop.


  • #98
    razor8
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    As you can see it's pretty mixed. Pasture sward will go out on it tomorrow hopefully


  • #99
    razor8
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    As you can see it's pretty mixed. Pasture sward will go out on it tomorrow hopefully

    Pictures 1 & 2


  • #100
    razor8
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    Pictures 3 & 4

    4 struggling


  • #101
    Farmer Pudsey
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    Hit the nettles with MCPA.


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  • #102
    razor8
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    Pictures 3 & 4

    4 struggling


  • #103
    razor8
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    Pictures 3 & 4

    4 struggling


  • #104
    Greengrass1
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    Farmer Pudsey wrote: »
    Hit the nettles with MCPA.

    Do not.
    You will set that reseed back weeks. I used mcoa on well established grass and it took 10 days to recover.
    That reseed will be flying next week after the N
    Ask where you bought your sees what spray to use. They will have the best one to use in stock


  • #105
    razor8
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Do not.
    You will set that reseed back weeks. I used mcoa on well established grass and it took 10 days to recover.
    That reseed will be flying next week after the N
    Ask where you bought your sees what spray to use. They will have the best one to use in stock

    hope your right, asked last year and i think eagle and legulux was mentioned


  • #106
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    hope your right, asked last year and i think eagle and legulux was mentioned

    Mcpa is too severe in my view for a reseed way to severe.
    If you do decide to use it I'd use it at a very light rate


  • #107
    dharn
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    Pudsey might have meant spot spray them, its what id do, they are very strong already


  • #108
    razor8
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Mcpa is too severe in my view for a reseed way to severe.
    If you do decide to use it I'd use it at a very light rate


    was going to strim neetles and spray later? stupid or not?


  • #109
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    was going to strim neetles and spray later? stupid or not?

    Nah give them a spray of something. They will come back again and you'll get rid of them fully second time round


  • #110
    razor8
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    should i spray now or wait another while with a post emergence spray?


  • #111
    Greengrass1
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    razor8 wrote: »
    should i spray now or wait another while with a post emergence spray?

    Hive the bunch s of nettles something now


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  • #112
    Farmer Pudsey
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    They are in clumps. Spot spray now with a knapsack with MCPA. If there are young nettles or weed coming within the sward I spay with an undersown spray now that is clover safe if clover in sward. If not I would use MCPA in 10 dayss- 2 weeks time.


  • #113
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    hi all
    going to overseed a small 4 acre field this week after silage.
    Intend to chain harrow twice then sow seed along with bag of 10 10 20 and maybe a bag of lime per acre.
    no spraying or rolling after, wonder how well it will take or will it be a disaster...


  • #114
    just do it
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    hi all
    going to overseed a small 4 acre field this week after silage.
    Intend to chain harrow twice then sow seed along with bag of 10 10 20 and maybe a bag of lime per acre.
    no spraying or rolling after, wonder how well it will take or will it be a disaster...

    Why no spray?


  • #115
    Good loser
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    hi all
    going to overseed a small 4 acre field this week after silage.
    Intend to chain harrow twice then sow seed along with bag of 10 10 20 and maybe a bag of lime per acre.
    no spraying or rolling after, wonder how well it will take or will it be a disaster...

    Expect it will do okay. Cheap too.


  • #116
    Markcheese
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    A roll wouldn't hurt... And if you've light stock graze it a couple of times because the fertilizer will drive on the old grass as well so keeping award open will let the new stuff get a bit of light ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #117
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    no spray or roll because I don't have either so id have to try borrow them. might try get the roller. ya I have weanlings that can go on it,
    id prob want to graze it tight before winter?


  • #118
    Markcheese
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    no spray or roll because I don't have either so id have to try borrow them. might try get the roller. ya I have weanlings that can go on it,
    id prob want to graze it tight before winter?

    I'm no expert , but a couple of light grazings would probably be better, and keep the sward open to allow nee seedling a bit of light...
    Think the roller is to make sure the seed makes good contact with soil.. as opposed to flattening out the ground , don't know if a good heavy downpour will do the same... :-)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #119
    razor8
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    razor8 wrote: »
    As you can see it's pretty mixed. Pasture sward will go out on it tomorrow hopefully

    Well improved, what should I do with bare batches? it still seems to be coming in it, lambs went into on 6 weeks


  • #120
    razor8
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    This stuff should be rocket fuel for lambs but will probably run through them


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  • #121
    Farmer Pudsey
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    razor8 wrote: »
    Well improved, what should I do with bare batches? it still seems to be coming in it, lambs went into on 6 weeks

    Yes it still seems to be coming in it, before you graze next time any really bare patches spread a bit of seed by hand and a bit of bag lime to neutalise dung and it will come over the winter.
    razor8 wrote: »
    This stuff should be rocket fuel for lambs but will probably run through them

    If you can get soya hulls I feed the 2-300 grams/head it will slow down grass in the rumen and tighten them up. Make sure they are dosed


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