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Back around 05 Toyota did a no-frills version , narrow wheels / arches / manual windows ...... but then 'the tiger' came and basic didn't cut it when we had all that money to spend
If you're in the UK or especially Australia you can get the basic LC's but over here it's only Bling and extra bling models.
http://www.toyota.ie/models/landcruiser/
Ireland - LC €82k (Commercial €40k), V8 €145k
UK - LC €61k ,V8 €80
Australia - LC €39k (Commercial n/a ), V8 €54K :eek:
Why is the V8 diesel LC €145k here ?(nearly 3 times the Aussie price ) - because Toyota know they can get the Irish to pay that much ( Marketing 101 :rolleyes: )
For €10K more you would have a V8 Range Rover which is probably just as capable off road and a hell of a lot better on road. Not to mention a lot better equipped and much better looking.0 -
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DesertCreat_15 wrote: »One thing that annoys me anytime i see pics of the Garda Chopper - is that faded green stripe
At least you are seeing it unlike mules looking for it to come out to jobs.0 -
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Good reason not to buy BMW/Audi's for traffic ?, thrashing them down thru roadworks after a Discovery 4x4
Imagine the repair costs compared with a good ol' 'Hayundai' after a thrashing
In my book - a pranged car after a chase is going to be expensive to fix regardless of what manufacturers badge is on the bonnet.
Especially if you want to do the repair job properly.
You could of course look at the following aspects
1) Is the "good ol Hayundai" suitable for been in a pursuit situation in the first place - or is the answer - don't have pursuits/chases????.
2) How do you minimise the risks of having an accident in the first place - good training for example - plus good operational guidelines - and of course officers/members having the confidence to make the right call.
For example - having the confidence to be able to call off the chase if they feel its too dangerous to continue.
Theres also the wider question - if a well trained driver is pushing a BMW or Audi hard - is the BMW or Audi less likely to have a crash when been driven hard due to better roadholding - then a Hyundai been driven hard.
I get that having a poor driver in the Audi and a fantastic driver in the Hyundai changes things around a bit.
But assuming both Audi driver and Hyundai drivers having the same abilities - would it be reasonable to assume an A4/A6 Quattro is going to have better roadholding - and better brakes etc then the Hyundai - and that this might make it a safer car to drive hard - if the driver knows what they are doing etc.
I do agree though - that drivers would need to be trained on something like the Audi Quattro to understand how it handles - as in a police/Garda setting such a car is likely to be bought with the intention of utilising the benefits of Quattro.
Id still suspect the Audi is a safer car though in terms of roadholding etc0 -
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Training / ability to drive is the first qualification, blue lights and a siren don't transform you magically into Sébastien Loeb (Champion rally driver) as some seem to think:rolleyes: .
Having a workman like machine under you is certainly a plus as well, the Skodas use the same basic underpinnings as the Audis so the public perception of the Audi as an 'expensive' car v's a 'cheap' Skoda is something to be considered - more Skoda taxis on the roads than Audis/Hyundais as taxis/poiice cars lead busy lives !
So good training, and a decent 'tool' to do your job with :cool:
Knowing the Northie 'car culture', I'd say the PSNI officer's 'Focus' is a Focus 2.5ST !!!:cool:
Hence why I said properly trained
The basic point is that an Audi that handles better and has better brakes (compared to the Hyundai) - is possibly less likely to have a prang in the first place.
This isn't simply because its an Audi with Quattro - and obviously you don't need an Audi or a BMW to have good roadholding.
But you probably need something better then a Hyundai :eek:
A Skoda Vrs should do the job fine
The driver training is VERY important as you say.
The wider question is - is the solution to train people properly - rather then say - we can only have Hyundais because the trainings not up to scratch - as in not enough people trained up.0 -
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