Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

Your Airbag wrote: »

Well I've broken down what I think is a good cross and individually rate all of Nanis crossing on Saturday.

You said it was a 50% and marked it 7/10, or 70%. I don't know how you could rate the four crosses in that video a 7/10

If you want to break down your criteria of a good cross and how it relates to what was in the video I'd be happy to hear it.

I think you'll avoid though, in no reality was that a 7/10 crossing preformance

I've already explained my reasoning on how I rate crossing in general and gave some additional explanation on my rating of 7/10 for Nani's crossing. That is all you need to understand how I arrived at that rating. I'm not going to go through it again now for you.

With regard to the bold I said that he had a 50% strike rate for good crosses to poor. That does not immediately equate to how good his crossing performance was, because it doesn't account for how good or bad the crosses he put in were and what sort of strike rate for good to poor crosses is normal for wingers in general.

You don't agree with how I rate crossing and I don't agree with how you rate crossing. We both know this. You constantly repeating that you don't agree with my rating of Nani's crosses is utterly pointless.

Pro. F wrote: »

I've already explained my reasoning on how I rate crossing in general and gave some additional explanation on my rating of 7/10 for Nani's crossing. That is all you need to understand how I arrived at that rating. I'm not going to go through it again now for you.

With regard to the bold I said that he had a 50% strike rate for good crosses to poor. That does not immediately equate to how good his crossing performance was, because it doesn't account for how good or bad the crosses he put in were and what sort of strike rate for good to poor crosses is normal for wingers in general.

You don't agree with how I rate crossing and I don't agree with how you rate crossing. We both know this. You constantly repeating that you don't agree with my rating of Nani's crosses is utterly pointless.

No you haven't. Ive read evey reply and I havent seen an explanation.

bangkok wrote: »

a good cross imo is one where you make the defender turn towards his own goal, where the ball is whipped in between the last defender and the goalkeeper and gives the striker the opportunity to run onto and either head or strike with the ball with his foot

That would mean that all crosses that pick out a man in space in front of the defence (eg for a player arriving late into the box) are not good crosses. It would also mean that many crosses picking out a free man at the back post (eg Swansea's for the second goal on Saturday) are not good crosses. Both of those assertions are incorrect.

redbaron_99 wrote: »

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/1991460/manchester-uniteds-transfer-window-travails-under-louis-van-gaal-and-ed-woodward

This is not a nice read at all. Absolutely damning stuff here.
I nearly choked on my noodles, lads.

Nothing ground breaking there red, most if not all in that has been covered at length in here.. its all just a bit sad and a bit embarrassing...

redbaron_99 wrote: »

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/1991460/manchester-uniteds-transfer-window-travails-under-louis-van-gaal-and-ed-woodward

This is not a nice read at all. Absolutely damning stuff here.
I nearly choked on my noodles, lads.

If true it shows just how useless we are at transfer dealings but who is to blame? Ed. glazers

Gotta post this as it is eating me alive, is Woodward the bastard child of Barney Stinson and Henning Berg?

I'm flicking between this place and the red devils subreddit so depressing! :-)

Head in the sand.

redbaron_99 wrote: »

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/1991460/manchester-uniteds-transfer-window-travails-under-louis-van-gaal-and-ed-woodward

This is not a nice read at all. Absolutely damning stuff here.
I nearly choked on my noodles, lads.

I read that Miguel Delaney article earlier alright. It makes for horrific reading for utd fans, even if only half of it is accurate. Very disappointing.

Something very strange has to be going on behind the scenes. The inability of utd to get such crucial business done is mind boggling.

I'm just thinking to myself here after watching our rivals play the past few days where do we go?

What's next for the club because as things stand with the team and the way where doing business I just don't see where things are gonna get better.

There's such a big gap where it counts right now I'm following United about twenty years and can't remember to many times feeling this way.

We could go out there and sign some great players in next week or two but even then I just don't know what outcome would be.

People shouldn't discount the position of Director of Football as ''trouble waiting to happen'' simply because they're not used to them and is one which could actually work extremely well if done correctly.

But rather than getting into the debate again, is there not a way of hiring someone in a similar role who would technically be ''under'' the manager in terms of making decisions on players to sign and so wouldn't upset the apple cart with needless signings? Because lets face it, at the minute we're probably signing just as many needless players without one as it is.

Headshot wrote: »

I know exactly where your coming from. Its uncertain times ahead but all we need is defensive cover and a CM and we'll be good to go. Having no CL is a huge help for the team. If we were in that, I couldnt see us get 4th with his team.

We also have a great manager under us and once the club gets use to the formation, it will come good. Im sure of it. We will get 4th spot and ill be delighted with that

What makes it worse for me is look at the teams around us and the position there in. We went threw a rough patch before but our rivals where not near as strong as they are now.
The longer this goes on its gonna be incredibly hard to catch up.

Adamocovic wrote: »

I know it wasn't an ideal start but jakers it's only one game. I'd wait a bit before predicting another poor season and rolling out the doom and gloom cannons.

It's only 1 game out of 38, long way to go yet.

Its not about one game, its about another disastrous Summer transfer window when we needed it much more than the teams above us yet they've all added to their squads and we have done nothing like what we needed to do. After seeing what happened last year how can you not have a problem with it happening again?

Adamcp898 wrote: »

People shouldn't discount the position of Director of Football as ''trouble waiting to happen'' simply because they're not used to them and is one which could actually work extremely well if done correctly.

But rather than getting into the debate again, is there not a way of hiring someone in a similar role who would technically be ''under'' the manager in terms of making decisions on players to sign and so wouldn't upset the apple cart with needless signings? Because lets face it, at the minute we're probably signing just as many needless players without one as it is.

I forgot to add, someone in that role described or a Director of Football would also give a chief executive someone to hold accountable for transfer dealings - meaning he himself wouldn't be judged on comings and goings and wouldn't feel the need to impress everyone with a needless marquee signing.