Republic's time zone plan "ludicrous"

seamus · 18-08-2014 03:42PM

P_1 wrote: »

Have to say that it strikes me as an idiotic idea to take outselves out of sinc time wise with the UK considering just how much of our business is done with them.

As someone who works with systems that span multiple timezones and has to co-ordinate with teams across the world, I can tell you that there is precisely zero complications about ROI having one timezone and UK having another.

It's like having different currencies, only much easier because you don't have to change anything.

Whether this is actually a good idea is another question. It does mean that winter evenings won't ever be dark at 3.30pm again, though it may stay dark till nearly 10am in the depths of December. I'd definitely take that tradeoff myself.

failinis · 18-08-2014 03:43PM

P_1 wrote: »

Have to say that it strikes me as an idiotic idea to take outselves out of sinc time wise with the UK considering just how much of our business is done with them.

Yes, but the Uk does a lot of business with countries in all different time zones.

Jimoslimos · 18-08-2014 03:44PM

Some countries manage ok with different time zones within their borders.

pickarooney · 18-08-2014 03:47PM

seamus wrote: »

As someone who works with systems that span multiple timezones and has to co-ordinate with teams across the world, I can tell you that there is precisely zero complications about ROI having one timezone and UK having another.

It's like having different currencies, only much easier because you don't have to change anything.

Whether this is actually a good idea is another question. It does mean that winter evenings won't ever be dark at 3.30pm again, though it may stay dark till nearly 10am in the depths of December. I'd definitely take that tradeoff myself.

What about when your UK clients call at 5.15 and you're already gone home whereas you used always be still at work?

KungPao · 18-08-2014 03:47PM

article wrote: »

If agreed, it would mean people travelling between Northern Ireland and the Republic would have to adjust their watches as they crossed the border.

Ehhh no ****!

Nodin · 18-08-2014 03:49PM

failinis wrote: »

I don't see a problem with bringing it more in line with most countries in Europe, and I would like brighter evenings.
Of course then it would be darker mornings, and problems of children walking to school while its still a bit dark etc.

I would agree with the change, but only if NI done the same, I live right on the border and would be a pain in the hole to keep having to think about time zones.

What do you all think?

Portugal and Spain have different time zones, so I don't see how its a problem.

failinis · 18-08-2014 03:51PM

KungPao wrote: »

"If agreed, it would mean people travelling between Northern Ireland and the Republic would have to adjust their watches as they crossed the border."

Ehhh no ****!

Well it seems like you need to set the watches back a few 100 years when coming into NI anyway, be grand.

(Honestly though, I only agree if NI would come into step with the ROI because I am on a border town and it would be too complicated)

pawrick · 18-08-2014 03:52PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28744490

same site from the day before that article - talk of the remainder of the UK changing also if Scotland votes for independence, so in fact it'd be the North and Scotland left out of sync with the ROI, England and Wales.

Jesus Wept · 18-08-2014 03:52PM

this would be a top laugh

Menas · 18-08-2014 03:53PM

Look, this is Ireland. If we did change timezone it would be something like what India have.
30 mins ahead/behind their neighbours. Confuse the fck out of all of them!

10am in Paris = 9:30 in Dublin = 9:00 in London.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Thomas Broughan

The Backwards Man · 18-08-2014 03:54PM

Nodin wrote: »

Portugal and Spain have different time zones, so I don't see how its a problem.

You don't have Portuguese wains going to school in Spain or Spanish layabouts lifting their dole in Portugal though.

failinis · 18-08-2014 03:54PM

pawrick wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28744490

same site from the day before that article - talk of the remainder of the UK changing also if Scotland votes for independence, so in fact it'd be the North and Scotland left out of sync with the ROI, England and Wales.

Thanks for that, never noticed.
In that case I would definitely agree to ROI and NI changing.

FloatingVoter · 18-08-2014 03:54PM

This is Ireland. Therefore we'll need a committee to look into the matter. Another committee to find out what the first committee did with the money. Then a tribunal for the barristers to get rich. And someone from Scambridge to do any real work needed.
In the end it will be decided that moving the sun 3 foot to the left would be a better idea than turning a clock back. And an academic forum will be set up to look into it. Rinse and repeat.

Mr. CooL ICE · 18-08-2014 03:56PM

Australia. Now there's a country with a headfcuk of timezones. As long as our timezone isn't implemented like theirs, I'd be happy

Barely There · 18-08-2014 03:57PM

pickarooney wrote: »

What about when your UK clients call at 5.15 and you're already gone home whereas you used always be still at work?

They leave a voicemail?

Nodin · 18-08-2014 04:00PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You don't have Portuguese wains going to school in Spain or Spanish layabouts lifting their dole in Portugal though.

Human nature being what it is, I'd be feckin amazed if there wasn't.

Riskymove · 18-08-2014 04:01PM

isn't there a difference between changing time zones and ending Daylight Saving Time?

the process as set out in the OP would move us to the next Time Zone on CET right?

but don't those countries still operate DST? wouldn't we still be using DST?

KungPao · 18-08-2014 04:01PM

So in late December it would get bright (or less dark at least) at around 9AM? Feck that. I love the dark evenings anyway, that hour means shag all in the evening, would be dark when I finish work either way, but the darkness in the morning would be depressing.

failinis · 18-08-2014 04:03PM

KungPao wrote: »

So in late December it would get bright (or less dark at least) at around 9AM? Feck that. I love the dark evenings anyway, that hour means shag all in the evening, would be dark when I finish work either way, but the darkness in the morning would be depressing.

yeah, but you would have more brightness to do things in the evening, I always end up doing far less in winter as it gets so dark outside so quickly.

pawrick · 18-08-2014 04:13PM

It makes sense to have as much of the day light utilised during the active part of the day as possible rather then wasted with people asleep at 5:30am as is currently the case. This however would work best if England also made the same decision although it wouldn't be impossible as proved around the world.

Jimoslimos · 18-08-2014 04:17PM

Riskymove wrote: »

isn't there a difference between changing time zones and ending Daylight Saving Time?

the process as set out in the OP would move us to the next Time Zone on CET right?

but don't those countries still operate DST? wouldn't we still be using DST?

The article is poorly written. What is being proposed is an end to Daylight Savings Time. So for the summer months the clocks would be the same as Britain and 1 hour ahead in winter.

Irish Standard Time (IST) = CET = BST = GMT+01:00

tedobrien98 · 18-08-2014 04:17PM

Why couldn't we go with European time in the summer and turn the clocks back two hours instead of one in the winter?

FloatingVoter · 18-08-2014 04:22PM

Look its simple. Throw out your smartphones, clocks and Rolex riipoffs.
Buy a cock (no jokes down the back, that's a male hen).
When the cock crows (better than any alarm clock) you get up and do stuff.
When the sun goes down behind the nearest mountain / tenement you stop doing stuff. Find a woman / man / sheep and entertain yourselves.
Applies everywhere.
Worked perfectly well for about 900,000 years.

jimgoose · 18-08-2014 04:29PM

This is about the most ridiculous thing I've heard in the last five years, and believe you me that bates out Banagher. Anyone supporting this would want to be sectioned, never mind the beetle-brained, clodhopping fcukan ape proposing it. :pac:

frozenfrozen · 18-08-2014 04:31PM

But then the watershed would be wrong!

franer1970 · 18-08-2014 04:35PM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

The article is poorly written. What is being proposed is an end to Daylight Savings Time. So for the summer months the clocks would be the same as Britain and 1 hour ahead in winter.

Irish Standard Time (IST) = CET = BST = GMT+01:00

Incorrect, read the bill:http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2012/9612/b9612d.pdf
The proposal is to move Rep of Ireland to CET and have the same daylight savings time in the summer as others on CET have.
Remember, The UK is on GMT+1 in the summer, not GMT.

failinis · 18-08-2014 04:36PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

But then the watershed would be wrong!

There is a chance England and Wales would follow suit, so not really?

franer1970 · 18-08-2014 04:50PM

FYI, the UK stayed on Summer Time (i.e. GMT+1) from March 1968 to October 1971 and the Republic followed suit, presumably due to worries about the effect at the border.

Standard Time Act, 1968
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1968/en/act/pub/0023/index.html

Standard Time (Amendment) Act, 1971
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1971/en/act/pub/0017/index.html

Jimoslimos · 18-08-2014 05:25PM

franer1970 wrote: »

Incorrect, read the bill:http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2012/9612/b9612d.pdf
The proposal is to move Rep of Ireland to CET and have the same daylight savings time in the summer as others on CET have.
Remember, The UK is on GMT+1 in the summer, not GMT.

That's kind of what I said. You can't have DST in the summer months, that doesn't make sense, you can have summer time like Britain has (BST). So is the plan to replace IST with CET+1 (summertime)?

Currently
IST = GMT+1 (Summer)
DST = IST-1 (Ireland) = GMT (Winter)

kowloon · 18-08-2014 05:31PM

Abolish time zones entirely, I think we can handle it.

Republic's time zone plan "ludicrous"

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