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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭italodisco


    Friend of mine got caught drinking driving last month. They let him off on condition he paid them 500E. He did that and all was sorted. Knock on the door last week. Same 2 cu*nts...looking for another 500.


    Let me guess next you'll be telling us how you'd lost your virginity at 12 and had 100's more women by 15 ...

    I smell bs lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Friend of mine got caught drinking driving last month. They let him off on condition he paid them 500E. He did that and all was sorted. Knock on the door last week. Same 2 cu*nts...looking for another 500.

    A friend of mine was caught murdering his wife. The guards demanded €50 off him to let him off. Anyone can make up a story for these posts


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    Friend of mine got caught drinking driving last month. They let him off on condition he paid them 500E. He did that and all was sorted. Knock on the door last week. Same 2 cu*nts...looking for another 500.

    any actual facts to back that rubbish comment up ?
    hope your looking forward to getting your junior cert results ya plonker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    A friend of mine was caught murdering his wife. The guards demanded €50 off him to let him off.
    I call BS. I've never had them let me off with murder for less than a grand. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Rezident wrote: »
    It's obviously wrong to ruin someone's life for having a small part of a plant that naturally grows in nature and has never killed anyone. In fact, when cannabis is re-legalised in the future (it is only a matter of time), when we're a little bit less backward, our current legal stance will be viewed a bit like when women weren't allowed vote or when homosexuality was illegal.

    It's a plant. It relaxes people. Either Mother Nature was wrong or the law is wrong, no brainer really.

    So because Mother Nature made something like a plant or berries it is okay. Why dont you go out in the countryside and try to eat some of these plants or berries I can tell you will be very sick soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Esel wrote: »
    You can be sure this thread is being analysed over on the ES private forum(s).

    For spelling mistakes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    Rezident wrote: »
    It's obviously wrong to ruin someone's life for having a small part of a plant that naturally grows in nature and has never killed anyone. In fact, when cannabis is re-legalised in the future (it is only a matter of time), when we're a little bit less backward, our current legal stance will be viewed a bit like when women weren't allowed vote or when homosexuality was illegal.

    It's a plant. It relaxes people. Either Mother Nature was wrong or the law is wrong, no brainer really.
    Mother Nature gave us botflies and Death Caps and tsunamis as well dude. Weed is pretty harmless for most people but your line of reasoning is well off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    So because Mother Nature made something like a plant or berries it is okay. Why dont you go out in the countryside and try to eat some of these plants or berries I can tell you will be very sick soon.

    Sure, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal. It's his own body, he should be allowed to do anything he wants with it as long as no non-consenting third party is harmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sure, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal. It's his own body, he should be allowed to do anything he wants with it as long as no non-consenting third party is harmed.

    Agree to a point BUT what happens if he becomes ill by doing that. Does he have the same right to a hospital bed/treatment as people who didn't harm themselves?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Agree to a point BUT what happens if he becomes ill by doing that. Does he have the same right to a hospital bed/treatment as people who didn't harm themselves?

    Should people who attempt to kill themselves not get the same treatment as others either as they harmed themselves?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Should people who attempt to kill themselves not get the same treatment as others either as they harmed themselves?

    What a load of utter nonsense. People who attempt to kill themselves are mentally unwell. The harm is a result of that illness. Druggies are of sound body and mind, apparently.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Berserker wrote: »
    What a load of utter nonsense. People who attempt to kill themselves are mentally unwell. The harm is a result of that illness.

    A lot of people who take drugs etc would be mentally unwell so why should others get preferential treatment over them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    A lot of people who take drugs etc would be mentally unwell so why should others get preferential treatment over them?

    And an awful lot are 'casual' users who are supposedly perfectly healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Berserker wrote: »
    People who attempt to kill themselves are mentally unwell. The harm is a result of that illness. Druggies are of sound body and mind, apparently.

    Is addiction not an illness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Is addiction not an illness?

    Is every drug user an addict?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Berserker wrote: »
    And an awful lot are 'casual' users who are supposedly perfectly healthy.

    Thats not the point. The point is a poster has said that someone who takes drugs (This go for all drugs or just ones certain posters dont like, I dont know that) does not deserve the same treatment as someone who didnt take drugs.

    What a load of ****e that is, Should anybody who does anything "bad" for them, not deserve the same treatment as others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Berserker wrote: »
    Is every drug user an addict?

    Only those that are addicted, not the vast majority of recreational users. Much like alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Thats not the point. The point is a poster has said that someone who takes drugs (This go for all drugs or just ones certain posters dont like, I dont know that) does not deserve the same treatment as someone who didnt take drugs.

    What a load of ****e that is, Should anybody who does anything "bad" for them, not deserve the same treatment as others?

    Read it again.
    The question was asked by me to another poster.
    I was going to suggest a moral dilemma that a doctor might face in a hospital i.e. do I treat the sick child or the drug addict first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    I feel sorry for that doctor. 50 euro worth of weed and his career is ruined. Suppose he could kill someone or himself on that crazy drug. Nooottttt fcukin idiot cops and government . When I was a young lad a Garda took weed from my friend on the spot didn't charge him or nothing. I reckon the Garda brought it home and smoked it himself or sold it. I also no of a guy that was let drive home by a Garda even tho he was drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    The reason he was charged was because he was stupid and tried to run away.

    Once he ran he made it impossible for them to turn a blind eye.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I feel sorry for that doctor. 50 euro worth of weed and his career is ruined. Suppose he could kill someone or himself on that crazy drug. Nooottttt fcukin idiot cops and government . When I was a young lad a Garda took weed from my friend on the spot didn't charge him or nothing. I reckon the Garda brought it home and smoked it himself or sold it. I also no of a guy that was let drive home by a Garda even tho he was drunk.

    The drink probably clouded the Gards judgement.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    I feel sorry for that doctor. 50 euro worth of weed and his career is ruined. Suppose he could kill someone or himself on that crazy drug. Nooottttt fcukin idiot cops and government . When I was a young lad a Garda took weed from my friend on the spot didn't charge him or nothing. I reckon the Garda brought it home and smoked it himself or sold it. I also no of a guy that was let drive home by a Garda even tho he was drunk.

    Ive been caught with Cannabis a few times by the guards, Once it was taken off me, name taken then,never heard from them again

    Other 2 times, They didnt even take it off me. Just a you cant smoke that here in public!

    99% of guards couldnt give a **** TBH as they know its harmless


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Read it again.
    The question was asked by me to another poster.
    I was going to suggest a moral dilemma that a doctor might face in a hospital i.e. do I treat the sick child or the drug addict first?

    Surely whoever is in need of the treatment the most would be dealt with first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Dracula!


    The law on this is a disgrace. I have known at least 20 people over the course of my life who all have had different treatment when caught In possession of cannabis. Most don't hear anymore about it. The worst had to go to court and put money in the poor box and he had 90 euros worth. Where is the consistency.

    I could go into an off licence and buy 20 litres of after shock and drink it till I die.
    I'm not a smoker myself but hopefully the next generation sees through the madness of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Meanwhile in other parts of the country...

    Elderly people in rural Ireland live in fear as violent gangs of burglars roam the countryside operating with total impunity.
    Parts of the our capital city's centre become no go areas with open drug use and unchallenged anti-social behaviour.
    Our reputation abroad is tainted by frequent violent attacks and robberies on tourists.

    Not to worry! The gallant Gardai are keeping the public safe from this utterly harmless man committing an utterly harmless "crime".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Meanwhile in other parts of the country...

    Elderly people in rural Ireland live in fear as violent gangs of burglars roam the countryside operating with total impunity.
    Parts of the our capital city's centre become no go areas with open drug use and unchallenged anti-social behaviour.
    Our reputation abroad is tainted by frequent violent attacks and robberies on tourists.

    Not to worry! The gallant Gardai are keeping the public safe from this utterly harmless man committing an utterly harmless "crime".

    I thought this drug user was caught near enough the city centre?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    I thought this drug user was caught near enough the city centre?

    The point being made is the gardai are not stopping and searching the hundreds of drug addicts, who beg steal etc... on the streets all day every day yet arrest a man smoking a spliff minding his own business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭jetsonx


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Meanwhile in other parts of the country...

    Elderly people in rural Ireland live in fear as violent gangs of burglars roam the countryside operating with total impunity. Parts of the our capital city's centre become no go areas with open drug use and unchallenged anti-social behaviour.
    Our reputation abroad is tainted by frequent violent attacks and robberies on tourists.

    Not to worry! The gallant Gardai are keeping the public safe from this utterly harmless man committing an utterly harmless "crime".

    Yes, this is what really irks me.

    It is the laziest policing of the worst kind. Go after the easy cases (they will after all help meet quotas) but steer clear of the more difficult ones.

    A pensioner who has been beaten and robbed - do they really want to hear that a dude up in Dublin that smoked one spliff has been arrested and brought to court OR do they want to hear that the gang that robbed him or her has been caught and brought to justice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,017 ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    The point being made is the gardai are not stopping and searching the hundreds of drug addicts, who beg steal etc... on the streets all day every day yet arrest a man smoking a spliff minding his own business

    I'm fairly certain a Garda wouldn't turn a blind eye to a addict heating a substance on foil or smoking crack. This bloke was openly displaying an illegal drug so left the Gardai no choice but to act. This was not a "stop & search" result. His stupidity of discarding the spliff followed by running are the reason this has seen the courts I would say.
    I lived in town a few years back and the Gardai did arrest the "junkie types", I very much doubt that has changed in the last few years. Cannabis in my opinion should be legalized and regulated like alcohol, but it is not at present so by using it you run the risk of being arrested in possession of it. I'm sure most cannabis users would have the general cop on not to use or display it in public, as it's common knowledge possession of a controlled drug is a criminal offense under current laws.

    Nick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I've blazed up many a fattie in public and never had any bother.

    She said, jinxing the shít out of herself.


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