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Are'nt the Gardai great sure...

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  • #2
    smash
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    Yawn


  • #3
    same ol sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    Ruined the poor mans life for the sake of a spliff


  • #4
    wazky
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    Hey Ming, any contact for some homegrown?


  • #5
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    I'd say the only reason that doctor made it the whole way to court was because he tried to fling his stash into the canal and do a runner.


  • #6
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    jetsonx wrote: »
    They arrest a chap having a spliff beside a canal in leafy Dublin suburb.

    But when you (or our poor tourists) go to Dublin City Centre (Dublin 1) the place is awash with junkies where the Gardai have the tacit policy in place of just ignoring them.

    And we all know the real reason behind this: arresting junkies is hassle.
    Our police force don't like sort of grubby work. Instead, the pick their targets carefully. The like nice docile targets. So when they are not beating up buskers in Temple Bar,they can be found beating up epileptics. (again, nice easy targets).

    This form of lazy policing is really not what our capital city or country needs. Discuss...

    Sources:

    Buskers in Temple Bar been beaten up:
    http://www.thestar.ie/star/busker-row-racks-up-loads-of-hits-7461/

    Gardai beating up Epileptic:
    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/video-gsoc-probe-launched-after-3887270

    Gardai arresting dude for having a spliff:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-doctor-ran-from-gardai-after-drugs-find-court-hears-30510605.html
    Did they let you finish your spliff op?


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  • #7
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    I'd say it's probably a bit more complicated than that, but I do feel bad for the spliff guy.


  • #8
    catallus
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    A stoned doctor?! No thanks.


  • #9
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    catallus wrote: »
    A stoned doctor?! No thanks.
    Yeh I saw my GP having a pint. Never going back to him again - ****ing alco!


  • #10
    Nodin
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    I'd say it's probably a bit more complicated than that, but I do feel bad for the spliff guy.


    Sometimes it is, and sometimes somebody with a bit of power is acting the bollocks. It's the latter that gives gardai the bad name.


  • #11
    genericguy
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    I'd say it's probably a bit more complicated than that, but I do feel bad for the spliff guy.

    Probably isn't though. Gardai do prefer softer targets. I see them everyday walking right by the junkie crews hassling people at the luas, and have known people to be arrested for peacefully smoking a joint at a festival.


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  • #12
    Ally Dick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    They're a disgrace to the badge. They are disgruntled because they finally had to pay something towards their gold plated pension. You can never cut the wages of a public servant without consequences, and it's especially true of gardai. They have been on a work to rule for around 6 years now. This means lazy policing, deliberately letting the situation get worse etc. It's all a tactic to force the Minister to give them more money. Everyone else in the private sector has to suck it up and accept lower income and less staff to do the job, but these charlarans won't.


  • #13
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    Ally Dick wrote: »
    They're a disgrace to the badge. They are disgruntled because they finally had to pay something towards their gold plated pension.
    Ah here, which guards?


  • #14
    Baron Kurtz
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    "An intelligent way to escape". Hilarious. Not really. Dumb comment. I feel a bit sorry for the guy to be honest. Inoccuous and unlucky and definitely a harmless thing from my reading of it. Isn't deserving for this to blight his future employment.


  • #15
    bigroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    They're a disgrace to the badge. They are disgruntled because they finally had to pay something towards their gold plated pension. You can never cut the wages of a public servant without consequences, and it's especially true of gardai. They have been on a work to rule for around 6 years now. This means lazy policing, deliberately letting the situation get worse etc. It's all a tactic to force the Minister to give them more money. Everyone else in the private sector has to suck it up and accept lower income and less staff to do the job, but these charlarans won't.
    You hit the nail on the head there.
    They say there are no garda on the streets because staff cutbacks.I find it hard to believe we have 13 thousand of them.


  • #16
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Here we go again. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Yawn!


  • #17
    dirtyden
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    Ally Dick wrote: »
    They're a disgrace to the badge. They are disgruntled because they finally had to pay something towards their gold plated pension. You can never cut the wages of a public servant without consequences, and it's especially true of gardai. They have been on a work to rule for around 6 years now. This means lazy policing, deliberately letting the situation get worse etc. It's all a tactic to force the Minister to give them more money. Everyone else in the private sector has to suck it up and accept lower income and less staff to do the job, but these charlarans won't.

    Nonsense.


  • #18
    Adelyn Shapely Rucksack
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adelyn Shapely Rucksack


    He said the defendant's employer had been informed of the proceedings "by way of an anonymous e-mail".

    "That is very malicious, isn't it?" Judge Dunne said.

    That IS very malicious




    With all the stress docs can be under I wouldn't be surprised if loads of them do it


  • #19
    catallus
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    That IS very malicious

    With all the stress docs can be under I wouldn't be surprised if loads of them do it

    Malicious, agreed.

    Are doctors not made to undergo drug-tests?


  • #20
    foggy_lad
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    jetsonx wrote: »
    Discuss...

    Sources:

    Buskers in Temple Bar been beaten up:
    http://www.thestar.ie/star/busker-row-racks-up-loads-of-hits-7461/
    These dossers, wasters and anti-social degenerates need to be beaten off the streets to make way for decent people who can make sentences without all the swearing and cursing.

    Gardai beating up Epileptic:
    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/video-gsoc-probe-launched-after-3887270
    This was most likely staged and when found out the organisation responsible for the protest should be sued by the state for all costs relating to policing the event and catering for this guys fake seizure/fit.


    Gardai arresting dude for having a spliff:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-doctor-ran-from-gardai-after-drugs-find-court-hears-30510605.html
    Who in their right mind wants a doctor who is a zombie headed waster off his head on weed and ptting people in danger?
    same ol sh1te wrote: »
    Ruined the poor mans life for the sake of a spliff
    Sad Eejit ruined his own life because he is a fool who chose an illegal drug over his future!
    Magaggie wrote: »
    Yeh I saw my GP having a pint. Never going back to him again - ****ing alco!
    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?


  • #21
    5starpool
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    Someone arrested for doing something illegal? What's the world coming to.

    More arrests for people doing illegal crap I say.


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  • #22
    Banjo String
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    catallus wrote: »
    Malicious, agreed.

    Are doctors not made to undergo drug-tests ?

    Well of course.


    Sure if they weren't, they'd be prescribing something like imodium, for a sore knee. Fcuk sake like. :rolleyes:


  • #23
    Turtyturd
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    Glad the op highlighted they are only in Dublin 1. That barrier we installed to prevent them crossing the Liffey has worked.


  • #24
    same ol sh1te
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    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Who in their right mind wants a doctor who is a zombie headed waster off his head on weed and ptting people in danger?

    Sad Eejit ruined his own life because he is a fool who chose an illegal drug over his future!

    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?

    So much WTF about this it's scary


  • #25
    catallus
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    same ol sh1te wrote: »
    So much WTF about this it's scary

    What's WTF?


  • #26
    Frank Lee Midere
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    That IS very malicious




    With all the stress docs can be under I wouldn't be surprised if loads of them do it

    That email needs investigation. If a cop did it, can them.


  • #27
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Who in their right mind wants a doctor who is a zombie headed waster off his head on weed and ptting people in danger?

    Sad Eejit ruined his own life because he is a fool who chose an illegal drug over his future!

    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?

    Three extraordinarily bad arguments.


  • #28
    same ol sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    catallus wrote: »
    What's WTF?

    Google it


  • #29
    Banjo String
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    catallus wrote: »
    What's WTF?

    It means wet tight fart.


  • #30
    Dinosaur Controller
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    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?

    That's irrelevant. Both substances reduce ones ability to perform.

    You're assuming because he had a joint at the canal he'd be sparking up before surgery. So I guess if a doctor is having a beer at home it means he'll down a few before he goes to work to treat people...


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  • #31
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Who in their right mind wants a doctor who is a zombie headed waster off his head on weed and ptting people in danger?
    Because the fact he smokes weed means that he's a zombie-headed waster off his head when at work? So therefore, if he has a pint on a Friday night, that means he's drunk all the time while at work? Because that is the "logic" of what you're saying.
    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?
    I see you read my post making fun of the stupidity of saying someone who smokes a spliff is therefore a stoner. And now that you realise that stupidity, you move the goalposts to the legality argument. Always happens without fail when the parallels with alcohol are pointed out. :pac:
    What difference does it being illegal make? That still doesn't mean therefore that he's stoned off his head all the time.
    5starpool wrote: »
    Someone arrested for doing something illegal? What's the world coming to.

    More arrests for people doing illegal crap I say.
    The point, which was surely made clearly, is that heroin addicts aren't accosted so easily.


  • #32
    Nodin
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    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Who in their right mind wants a doctor who is a zombie headed waster off his head on weed and ptting people in danger?

    Sad Eejit ruined his own life because he is a fool who chose an illegal drug over his future!

    Since when is a pint an illegal substance?


    Was he holding a clinic on the banks of the canal?


  • #33
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    5starpool wrote: »
    Someone arrested for doing something illegal? What's the world coming to.

    More arrests for people doing illegal crap I say.

    Not really following the thread are we?


  • #34
    catallus
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    same ol sh1te wrote: »
    So much WTF about this it's scary

    :rolleyes:

    I'll try again.

    What's WTF about it? And what's so scary?


  • #35
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    catallus wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    I'll try again.

    What's WTF about it? And what's so scary?
    I took the liberty of pointing out what was so wtf about it: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91747673&postcount=31


  • #36
    catallus
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    Magaggie wrote: »
    I took the liberty of pointing out what was so wtf about it: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91747673&postcount=31

    Your post makes little objective sense.

    I'm hoping Sameolsh1te (towards whom,btw, I directed my question) can do better.


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  • #37
    Podge83
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    I'm not mad about the Gardai I must admit.

    I never wanted to be a Garda and indeed would have made a ****e one at that.

    They are unhappy about having their money cut. And yes, they still have a job for life, good hours and a decent pension. But, when you take money off people, no matter what the starting point is they will be pi55ed off. It annoys me as someone working on half the money as before with my pension gone and always looking over my shoulder for the grim reaper - thank fcuk he hasn't caught me yet.

    However, they are having to cover more ground, are under scrutiny for all they do - cant even give a gouger a good clip around the ear these days. They are often in the line of fire from criminals who have the law on their side for the most part - every arrest must be done to the book or that word "technicality" comes to the rescue of some scroat!! The scumbags taking over the city and country, destroying the place have the upper hand most of the time because the Gardai have their hands tied by protocol and red tape.

    The culture of "sorting mates out" is reducing and for sure the organization is improving The numbers are getting fewer at a time when the requirement for the Gardai as a service is increasing - that's not the individual members fault.

    Dont blame the Gardai for the **** state that the streets have become, blame the law makers who basically say its ok for a scumbag to be a scumbag!

    Again, I've met a few Gardai that I'm not fond for various reasons, but give them a break - as a whole they're not a bad bunch with a **** job to do!


  • #38
    whupdedo
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    I'd rather a doctor having an odd joint and relaxing once in a while, than one whose wound up tighter than a Nun in a whorehouse, he's a victim of a worthless jobsworth with nothing better to do than show some poor ****er the might of the justice system in Ireland for smoking a joint


  • #39
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    Not really following the thread are we?

    Someone giving out about the guards that I commented on, with some after hours type stuff that I glossed over in between.


  • #40
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    catallus wrote: »
    Your post makes little objective sense.

    I'm hoping Sameolsh1te (towards whom,btw, I directed my question) can do better.

    Her post was excellent. You on the other hand havent made it clear whether you want someone to explain what is WTF about a post, or what WTF actually means.

    You then throw a strop when not answerd by a particular poster.


  • #41
    same ol sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    catallus wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    I'll try again.

    What's WTF about it? And what's so scary?

    Because it's an attitude that belongs in the middle ages, Ireland as a modern nation has a long way to go


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  • #42
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    catallus wrote: »
    Your post makes little objective sense.
    Being a cannabis-smoker does not automatically mean being stoned while at work. Just as being a drinker of alcohol beverages does not mean being drunk while at work/an alcoholic.
    By saying the above btw, it does not mean I'm endorsing smoking cannabis and I think the guy was a dope to do so in a public place - he only has himself to blame for that. But the "You're a drug abuser/addict if you use at all" bullsh-t people spout about drug use deserves to be debunked.


  • #43
    ebbsy
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    Well done to the filth.


  • #44
    Frank Lee Midere
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    5starpool wrote: »
    Someone giving out about the guards that I commented on, with some after hours type stuff that I glossed over in between.

    Still not following the thread. Or the OP.

    The OP did not say "This guy should not be arrested". He is not suggesting anarchy. He is accusing the Gardai of picking easy targets.

    Saying "More arrests of illegality" is totally to miss the point.


  • #45
    catallus
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    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    Her post was excellent. You on the other hand havent made it clear whether you want someone to explain what is WTF about a post, or what WTF actually means.

    You then throw a strop when not answerd by a particular poster.

    It was perfectly clear what I was asking.
    same ol sh1te wrote: »
    Because it's an attitude that belongs in the middle ages, Ireland as a modern nation has a long way to go

    Middle Ages? WTF are you on about?!
    Magaggie wrote: »
    Being a cannabis-smoker does not automatically mean being stoned while at work. Just as being a drinker of alcohol beverages does not mean being drunk while at work/an alcoholic.

    Cannabis is an illegal substance. Stop bad-mouthing drink!


  • #46
    My name is URL
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    bluewolf wrote: »

    With all the stress docs can be under I wouldn't be surprised if loads of them do it

    No need for them to be under stress to be doing it =p

    The biggest stressor is probably having burly gobshites chase and threaten you for making the informed decision to have the odd joint.

    He could have had a feed of drink, dangerously stumbled home past a dozen junkies and half a dozen ignorant gardai without a problem.


  • #47
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    catallus wrote: »
    It was perfectly clear what I was asking.



    Middle Ages? WTF are you on about?!



    Cannabis is an illegal substance. Stop bad-mouthing drink!

    Illegality is not the issue. A substance either stops the doctor from doing his job or it doesn't. This is off topic.

    You asked what is WTF. It's an initialism for What the Fcuk.

    You then asked something totally different.


  • #48
    Shakespeare's Sister
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    catallus wrote: »
    Cannabis is an illegal substance.
    But that's separate to whether a person uses it in moderation or is an addict.


  • #49
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    To put the OP's point more succinctly for the reading challenged.

    Why are the Gardai arresting people for "suspicious looking" smokes in the leafy suburbs when it's pretty much legal to shoot up while taking a sh1t on the street in the touristy parts of the city centre.

    This isn't how most of the world works.


  • #50
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    catallus wrote: »
    It was perfectly clear what I was asking.

    Ah now, to be fair. Could be a bit of a case of the boy who cried wolf there there, catallus.

    Gards aren't perfect, aren't the worst. but they definitely do go for easy targets.


  • #51
    tayto lover
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    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    To put the OP's point more succinctly for the reading challenged.

    Why are the Gardai arresting people for "suspicious looking" smokes in the leafy suburbs when it's pretty much legal to shoot up while taking a sh1t on the street in the touristy parts of the city centre.

    This isn't how most of the world works.

    In my job I always do the easiest things first.
    If I was a garda I would arrest the small guy first and hope the big lad goes away of his own free will.
    A lad I know on a collection round always takes the lightest boxes first too. Human nature.


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