Life after death?

Marcos Fit Rehearsal wrote: »

I've been watching too much Neil Degrasse Tyson.

I love that man. Him, and Brian Cox... If we could have Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Brian Cox and Alan Watts in the same room as me, my life (for want of a better phrase) would be complete.

House of Blaze wrote: »

Of course it would be lovely to think that the suffering that occurs in this life is just a preamble before the main event so to speak, and that our struggles have value and meaning. But if you ask me, the belief that it doesn't should really act as a better motivator for the people of the world to treat each other better and try to make all of our lives on this plane as happy comfortable as possible.

Shame it doesn't really work like that though.

To be honest I find the idea of suffering in this life to be happy in the next a truly abhorrent concept.

Rayanne2010 wrote: »

Yes & spiritualists would agree with this also... They hate the imposters too...

However, the main point was that based on ALL the evidence given.. he came a believer...

Right, so do you have any evidence that isn't based on the personal opinion of a novelist who has been dead for the best part of a century?

Marcos Fit Rehearsal wrote: »

It's so good! I never really watched any of those space shows before, too distracted with the animal ones but I'm definitely going to look up more of them. I mean once you've seen a couple hundred antelopes run away from cheetahs you've seen them all really, time to broaden the horizons. Ba dum dum tish.

Ha ha! If you haven't already i'd prob check out the Wonders of the Solar System and Wonders of the Universe series by Brian Cox.

There's a bit of overlap with cosmos but they're all good!

sbsquarepants wrote: »

This in my opinion is the kind of fúcked up, nonsensical thinking that has allowed religion to gain the strangle hold it has on the world.
There is no point - why should there be?

So is your view that there is no point to life or to your existence?

No point to anyone's existence, no reason at all?

Okay but then what's the point in even talking about it?

These types of discussions are so pointless. It's just giving people a reason to argue and criticise people's opinions and religious beliefs.
At the end of the day, we're all going to die and none of us have have any idea what's going to happen, so cut the bullshít and lets all get naked!

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Also, doesn't the double slit experiment suggest that death can't exist in any true sense?

Please explain?

I'd like to share my thoughts.

I'm a very cynical person and a skeptic to all things religion and magic etc. My rational mind tells me that death is death and there is no God. Creationism is only rubbish told to kids too young to understand the facts of life in my opinion.

However, a couple of years ago, I was going through a pretty rough time. I don't want to go into too many details but in my darkest hour yet, I turned too religion. I started going to mass and had a few chats with the big man himself. Whether he's up there or not, I feel this bit of belief got me through this difficult period and things eventually began to improve again. I'm not saying that God and an afterlife necessarily exist but because of what I mentioned I can see why people hold onto a bit of faith in their lives.

I'd like to thing there is a superior being and if I do get met at perly gates by St. Peter then all the better but as I said, rationally it's hard to believe there is a God and an afterlife.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I have to say I have a particular dislike for this kind of semi scientific bolloxology. The multiverse thing is only a theory and even if it turns out to be real the "you" in all those other universes is not connected to the "you" in this one, not in any tangible sense anyway, if you get hit by a train in this one you're fúcked regardless of whether or not the "you" in some other universe is safely tucked up in bed.
I did read up about the future affecting the past experiments and it's fascinating stuff alright, but to me it more proves that free will is an illusion, not death. The only way the future can affect the past is if both were predetermined to begin with (like in the block universe theory). Yes you may actually be both alive and dead simultaneously, but your consciousness can only inhabit one of those states at any given moment, so as far as you are concerned you're either one or the other. When you're dead you can't simply decide to rewind back to being alive!

Another way of looking at it that I found interesting (that's not to say I'd out any faith in it) is that with the multiverse branching out into new universes at every decision point, such that every possible event happens in some universe, no matter when or how you die there will always be a branch where you didn't and since those are the only branches you can experience, you never die from your own perspective.

So, for example, if you put a gun to your head and pull the trigger, from your perspective something will always go wrong - the gun will malfunction or the wound will not be fatal, though you'd be leaving behind you a plethora of universes where your friend just watched you blow your brains out.

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

Me too. Glad to be of service.

Someone, requoted by Christopher Hitchens but I can not remember who it was, once defined being educated as reaching the point where you realize how much you really do not know. Something that fits into the "Dunning–Kruger Effect" I guess.

Or wait.... is that the "downing effect"?. 90% sure it is the former but I _always_ mix those two up.

One of those anyway :-)



The one today was more of the format "There is a thread here I would value your input into if you have a few minutes before your holiday."

I see. I have often wondered how threads like this and topics like SSM get absolutely flooded so quickly.